It might not be lack of vaccines... it might be the apple turnovers... I'm willing to try that.
This.V8Aggie said:
So while the Amish can seek modern medicine, they typically don't elect for anything past basic services.
Not surprising their numbers are skewed if they're not undergoing real testing thus going undiagnosed.
Also they eat a lot of horse paste. ( I kid )
There are people here on the last autism thread who firmly believe we're better off without them at all.jja79 said:
Who has said that? People skeptical about a medical experiment are justified in that skepticism as this plays out.
They eat a lot healthier diet than most Americans and they do a lot of physical work.CanyonAg77 said:
https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2010/01/08/amish-have-low-cancer-rate/23895255007/Quote:
Rates are based on the average number of people per 100,000 who developed the disease each year between 1996 and 2003.
The overall rate of cancer in Amish adults was 390, compared with 647 in the population at large.
The low rates of tobacco use among the Amish explained some of that, but not all. Rates of tobacco-related cancers were 82 for the Amish and 222 for others.
Rapier108 said:
Oh here we go again.
The anti-vaxxers have a new thread to tell everyone we'd be better off with everything from tetanus to smallpox running amok.
do you always troll, or just like to be that concerned moderate and bash Trump.C@LAg said:yep. another trump failure for allowing that to happen so he could claim scoreboard on an untested vcaccine/.samurai_science said:There is a reason Big Pharma has avoided paying over a Billion dollars in medical damages to people damaged by vaccines. Oh right, they have immunity!C@LAg said:all vaccines are bad.beerad12man said:
So what is the argument, or what are we supposed to take from this?
FDA is bad.
The covid-19 medication was just rolled up into the same law.Quote:
WASHINGTON In 1986 Congress passed the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA), creating a no-fault compensation program to stabilize a vaccine market adversely affected by an increase in vaccine-related lawsuits and to facilitate compensation to claimants who found pursuing legitimate vaccine-inflicted injuries too difficult and cost prohibitive.
The NCVIA allowed for a party alleging a vaccine-related injury to file a petition for compensation in the Court of Federal Claims, naming the Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary as the respondent.
And in DECEMBER 2021, Trump called it "one of mankind's greatest achievements".C@LAg said:here's chump in March 2021.jja79 said:
People who made the stupid decision to leave the control group and join the study group have no one to blame but themselves if they did it while Trump was in office. The crime against humanity occurred under Biden and he should face the consequences.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/17/trump-assures-supporters-that-covid-vaccination-is-safe.html
- Former President Donald Trump again urged people to be vaccinated against Covid-19.
- Trump said he would recommend vaccination to "a lot of people that don't want to get it, and a lot of those people voted for me."
The bacteria which causes Tetanus is everywhere. The vaccine provides protection again the toxin it produces so unless they have had the tetanus vaccine, they can get the paralysis form of it if they get the bacteria into an open wound.Pluralizes Everythings said:Rapier108 said:
Oh here we go again.
The anti-vaxxers have a new thread to tell everyone we'd be better off with everything from tetanus to smallpox running amok.
Labeling a group anti vax, that isn't anti vax isn't smart.
How many Amish communities have tetanus & smallpox issues?
I'm not saying that way of living is right for everyone, but your argument is just petulent.
What, you don't want their faith as well?boulderaggie said:
Good for them. We should all be eating their diet, using their medicines and vaccines, and emulating their physical activity. I bet they have a very low carbon footprint to boot. Seems like they have a lot of things figured out.
boulderaggie said:
Good for them. We should all be eating their diet, using their medicines and vaccines, and emulating their physical activity. I bet they have a very low carbon footprint to boot. Seems like they have a lot of things figured out.
Agreed...and I would extend that to "medical professionals" as they were almost all recommending the fauci ouchie. They looked vexed when they tried several times to persuade my 5mo pregnant wife to get the jab, and we told them "no" and that we trusted our immune systems after recovering from the virus with ease just a few months prior.jja79 said:
Anyone taking medical advice from an elected official, of either party, is a moron.
Brittmoore Car Club said:And in DECEMBER 2021, Trump called it "one of mankind's greatest achievements".C@LAg said:here's chump in March 2021.jja79 said:
People who made the stupid decision to leave the control group and join the study group have no one to blame but themselves if they did it while Trump was in office. The crime against humanity occurred under Biden and he should face the consequences.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/17/trump-assures-supporters-that-covid-vaccination-is-safe.html
- Former President Donald Trump again urged people to be vaccinated against Covid-19.
- Trump said he would recommend vaccination to "a lot of people that don't want to get it, and a lot of those people voted for me."
Yet still had 1-2 of his loyal followers on here laughing and mocking anyone who died or suffered injury from the vaccine just the other day. Seemingly happy that some of our Trump supporting family and friends may have suffered for being stupid enough to take the vaccine that he praised and urged everyone to take. There are some great conservative God fearing Trump supporting posters on here that took it too. Makes zero sense.
GinMan said:Zero Amish Children Diagnosed with Cancer, Diabetes or Autismhttps://t.co/hg1K7uDVOi
— Wittgenstein (@backtolife_2023) July 9, 2023
If you can't find any Aggies who were never vaccinated as kids, does that mean that vaccinations cause Aggies?willtackleforfood said:Steve Kirsch: “We Can’t Find an Autistic Kid Who Was Unvaccinated”
— The Vigilant Fox 🦊 (@VigilantFox) June 29, 2023
“The Amish are a perfect example of a large group of people who are largely unvaccinated,” testified @stkirsch to the Pennsylvania State Senate.
“You won’t find kids with ADD, with autoimmune disease, with… pic.twitter.com/vBfWixDLbE
Has the CDC released data from their long term studies on childhood vaccines?
This. Unlike libs, I actually follow the science. I am very much pro vaccine. The vast majority of our vaccines were developed and manufactured by US companies and provided to the public after years, in some cases decades, of study. I too do not want to go back. My father spent eight months of his childhood paralyzed from the waste down from Polio.Rapier108 said:The bacteria which causes Tetanus is everywhere. The vaccine provides protection again the toxin it produces so unless they have had the tetanus vaccine, they can get the paralysis form of it if they get the bacteria into an open wound.Pluralizes Everythings said:Rapier108 said:
Oh here we go again.
The anti-vaxxers have a new thread to tell everyone we'd be better off with everything from tetanus to smallpox running amok.
Labeling a group anti vax, that isn't anti vax isn't smart.
How many Amish communities have tetanus & smallpox issues?
I'm not saying that way of living is right for everyone, but your argument is just petulent.
Smallpox thankfully was eradicated save the samples at the CDC and Russia's VECTOR.
Things like polio and measles are still out there, and we'll likely start seeing more of it because of Biden's open border invasion
You can call me petulant all you want, but people who want to go back to a time before vaccines are insane.
And again, I am not talking about the WuFlu crap. That is an issue all its own.
It was just two posters on here the other day, and I was surprised...because this is type of foul behavior is more typical of the left. I know families that were broken up over the damn "vaccine" because of politicized fear driven zealots.jja79 said:
I wouldn't trust the medical community any more than I do either Trump or Biden.
I don't know any Trump supporters who wish ill on anyone. I do know several Biden people, including family members, who actually said when my sister tested positive (then went through the 10 days of Netflix treatment) that it would serve both her and me right if she died.
The only people in my community who I have never met are the Mennonites.Dirty-8-thirty Ag said:Phatbob said:Not so sure about that one... The one thing I know it means is that Mountain Dew doesn't cause cancer. I've never seen a cart of an Amish family in a grocery store that didn't have a few 24 packs of the stuff.boulderaggie said:
Good for them. We should all be eating their diet, using their medicines and vaccines, and emulating their physical activity. I bet they have a very low carbon footprint to boot. Seems like they have a lot of things figured out.
Have some family from Seminole, TX and the Mennonites in the area are the same way. The Jr. High kids will chug Mountain Dew, chainsmoke Marlboro reds and work 16 hours a day. Different world than anything I am accustomed to seeing.
BS. But people believe anything that's posted on the internet.GinMan said:Zero Amish Children Diagnosed with Cancer, Diabetes or Autismhttps://t.co/hg1K7uDVOi
— Wittgenstein (@backtolife_2023) July 9, 2023
Old May Banker said:agz win said:Kelly McGillis was a hot Amish woman.beerad12man said:
So what is the argument, or what are we supposed to take from this?
And then looked what happened after she left that religion.... maybe the Amish are on to something.
Urban Ag said:This. Unlike libs, I actually follow the science. I am very much pro vaccine. The vast majority of our vaccines were developed and manufactured by US companies and provided to the public after years, in some cases decades, of study. I too do not want to go back. My father spent eight months of his childhood paralyzed from the waste down from Polio.Rapier108 said:The bacteria which causes Tetanus is everywhere. The vaccine provides protection again the toxin it produces so unless they have had the tetanus vaccine, they can get the paralysis form of it if they get the bacteria into an open wound.Pluralizes Everythings said:Rapier108 said:
Oh here we go again.
The anti-vaxxers have a new thread to tell everyone we'd be better off with everything from tetanus to smallpox running amok.
Labeling a group anti vax, that isn't anti vax isn't smart.
How many Amish communities have tetanus & smallpox issues?
I'm not saying that way of living is right for everyone, but your argument is just petulent.
Smallpox thankfully was eradicated save the samples at the CDC and Russia's VECTOR.
Things like polio and measles are still out there, and we'll likely start seeing more of it because of Biden's open border invasion
You can call me petulant all you want, but people who want to go back to a time before vaccines are insane.
And again, I am not talking about the WuFlu crap. That is an issue all its own.
I get the boosters for what I believe is necessary and logical. I pass on the flu vaccine because I'm not scared of getting the flu. I'm not vaxxed for HPV because as a faithful married man I have no need. I did get shingles once and it really sucked and I'll probably start getting that vax, need to have that talk with one of my docs. You get the point.
Covid vaccines are experimental. Not letting that sh** touch my sons. No way. Both of my boys got Covid and their worst symptom was boredom. Why would we vaccinate kids for that?
IDK, but I'd take SlayNews over NBC, CBS, ABC, NYT, PBS, etc, etcRapier108 said:
Any source other than "SlayNews"?
Not saying it isn't true, but way too many so called "news" sites out there which are BS and SlayNews just sounds like junk.
Two. And a lot of people feel terrible after the second shot.Shoefly! said:Urban Ag said:This. Unlike libs, I actually follow the science. I am very much pro vaccine. The vast majority of our vaccines were developed and manufactured by US companies and provided to the public after years, in some cases decades, of study. I too do not want to go back. My father spent eight months of his childhood paralyzed from the waste down from Polio.Rapier108 said:The bacteria which causes Tetanus is everywhere. The vaccine provides protection again the toxin it produces so unless they have had the tetanus vaccine, they can get the paralysis form of it if they get the bacteria into an open wound.Pluralizes Everythings said:Rapier108 said:
Oh here we go again.
The anti-vaxxers have a new thread to tell everyone we'd be better off with everything from tetanus to smallpox running amok.
Labeling a group anti vax, that isn't anti vax isn't smart.
How many Amish communities have tetanus & smallpox issues?
I'm not saying that way of living is right for everyone, but your argument is just petulent.
Smallpox thankfully was eradicated save the samples at the CDC and Russia's VECTOR.
Things like polio and measles are still out there, and we'll likely start seeing more of it because of Biden's open border invasion
You can call me petulant all you want, but people who want to go back to a time before vaccines are insane.
And again, I am not talking about the WuFlu crap. That is an issue all its own.
I get the boosters for what I believe is necessary and logical. I pass on the flu vaccine because I'm not scared of getting the flu. I'm not vaxxed for HPV because as a faithful married man I have no need. I did get shingles once and it really sucked and I'll probably start getting that vax, need to have that talk with one of my docs. You get the point.
Covid vaccines are experimental. Not letting that sh** touch my sons. No way. Both of my boys got Covid and their worst symptom was boredom. Why would we vaccinate kids for that?
The shingles vax is a 1 time jab. It hurts less than the Pneumonia vax.