They "bought" it from a tribe that was just wandering through, and didn't own the land, nor realize they were "selling it".whoop1995 said:
Thought New York was bought by the Dutch for some beads and trinkets? Would that land be excluded from this?
They "bought" it from a tribe that was just wandering through, and didn't own the land, nor realize they were "selling it".whoop1995 said:
Thought New York was bought by the Dutch for some beads and trinkets? Would that land be excluded from this?
Under appreciated post.CanyonAg77 said:
They will simply charge a toll to cross their lands
B-1 83 said:Under appreciated post.CanyonAg77 said:
They will simply charge a toll to cross their lands
Just give it to anyone not White or Asian. That should work.CanyonAg77 said:
In my area, the Comanches stole it from the Apaches, who stole it from the Pueblo tribes, who stole it from the Plainview culture, who stole it from the Folsom, who stole it from the Clovis….
Exactly who are we giving it back to?
I under some present day Indians along the AZ border do similar things to those doing business across their land……CanyonAg77 said:B-1 83 said:Under appreciated post.CanyonAg77 said:
They will simply charge a toll to cross their lands
Based on historical precedent.
After the Comanches and others were forced onto reservations in Oklahoma, they would charge the drovers for cattle crossing their land on the way to cattle markets in Kansas from Texas.
Would not be surprised.B-1 83 said:I under some present day Indians along the AZ border do similar things to those doing business across their land……CanyonAg77 said:B-1 83 said:Under appreciated post.CanyonAg77 said:
They will simply charge a toll to cross their lands
Based on historical precedent.
After the Comanches and others were forced onto reservations in Oklahoma, they would charge the drovers for cattle crossing their land on the way to cattle markets in Kansas from Texas.
Their lifestyle required a lot of land to survive. They under utilized it and we are now getting more value out of each acre. It is a fact that we took their land, but what is done is done. There is no giving back so it is an exercise in futility to even discuss it.A Net Full of Jello said:That was my first thought. Do we just give it back to the tribe our ancestors "stole" it from? Or to the tribe that had it before them? What happens to people like good ol' Lizzie Warren who are both American Indian and white? Does she have to live here only half the year? Explain how this is going to work.CanyonAg77 said:
In my area, the Comanches stole it from the Apaches, who stole it from the Pueblo tribes, who stole it from the Plainview culture, who stole it from the Folsom, who stole it from the Clovis….
Exactly who are we giving it back to?
I tell you what. These people suggesting this should give up their homes to the American Indians to show us exactly how it needs to be done. They go first and set the example for the rest of us to follow.
Depends on what the goal of the discussion is, no?Quote:
Their lifestyle required a lot of land to survive. They under utilized it and we are now getting more value out of each acre. It is a fact that we took their land, but what is done is done. There is no giving back so it is an exercise in futility to even discuss it.
Did you know Ben and Jerry's HQ in Vermont is on…stolen Indian land? Well, when will Bernie go protest/picket march that they should deed the HQ over to some oppressed people of color?johnnyblaze36 said:Did you know that Ben and Jerry’s was sold to a giant corporate conglomerate over 20 years ago for a cool 326 million?
— Dave Rubin (@RubinReport) July 5, 2023
Socialists love nothing more than capitalism for themselves… pic.twitter.com/F7UjcUJHQY
LOL, I can't remember the last time I spent any money on their products, but…I doubt they want any conservative's business anyway. Maybe they could surprise us all and open a new franchise/expansion in Bernie (CCP-Vermont) Sanders' second favorite country, Russia, anyway?Quote:
The left-wing colonialists and antisemites known as Ben & Jerry are facing a backlash determined to make their overpriced ice cream the next Bud Light.
Over the 4th of July, Ben & Jerry attacked America for stealing land from the Indians and demanded we immediately return this land, starting with Mount Rushmore.
Then, in what can only be described as an epic self-own, it was discovered that Ben & Jerry's Vermont headquarters almost certainly occupies land stolen from the Abenaki Indians.
malibucharles said:Their lifestyle required a lot of land to survive. They under utilized it and we are now getting more value out of each acre. It is a fact that we took their land, but what is done is done. There is no giving back so it is an exercise in futility to even discuss it.A Net Full of Jello said:That was my first thought. Do we just give it back to the tribe our ancestors "stole" it from? Or to the tribe that had it before them? What happens to people like good ol' Lizzie Warren who are both American Indian and white? Does she have to live here only half the year? Explain how this is going to work.CanyonAg77 said:
In my area, the Comanches stole it from the Apaches, who stole it from the Pueblo tribes, who stole it from the Plainview culture, who stole it from the Folsom, who stole it from the Clovis….
Exactly who are we giving it back to?
I tell you what. These people suggesting this should give up their homes to the American Indians to show us exactly how it needs to be done. They go first and set the example for the rest of us to follow.
Who was Russia stolen from, the Mongols?Quote:
Maybe they could surprise us all and open a new franchise/expansion in Bernie (CCP-Vermont) Sanders' second favorite country, Russia, anyway?
Presumably some NEO-Arian people. Clearly, we should go fight a war to free the ancient native Siberian and Ural peoples (among others) from Russian aggression. As long as it takes.CanyonAg77 said:Who was Russia stolen from, the Mongols?Quote:
Maybe they could surprise us all and open a new franchise/expansion in Bernie (CCP-Vermont) Sanders' second favorite country, Russia, anyway?
Was listening to a Hardcore History podcast recently and Dan Carlin went into a discussion on the term 'indigenous'. It was a great segment and really well put together and stated. Has to do with exactly what you just stated. I can't remember the specific episode. It may have been an Addendum.BTKAG97 said:
What country isn't?
Username checks out?OldHeathen said:
I have more Neanderthal dna than 98% of the people tested on 23&me.
does that count?
Looks like the next flavor would be Neckbeard Nougat.Brittmoore Car Club said:
Are Vermont libs the worst? I think they certainly live in the most hardcore white liberal laden bubble. Bunch of pasty granola pagan hippies that all look like this...
Tanya 93 said:
I have visited the Ben & Jerry's plant in Burlington
The workers all look exactly how you imagine them.
Brittmoore Car Club said:
Are Vermont libs the worst? I think they certainly live in the most hardcore white liberal laden bubble. Bunch of pasty granola pagan hippies that all look like this...
AggieMD95 said:Brittmoore Car Club said:
Are Vermont libs the worst? I think they certainly live in the most hardcore white liberal laden bubble. Bunch of pasty granola pagan hippies that all look like this...
Raised in red diapers
Your forgot the Comanche, Apache, Blackhawk, etcaezmvp said:
I'm sure theMexicans,Brazilians,Peruvians,South Africans,Turks,Chinese,Indians,Russians,Australians, oh hell did anyone not steal the land? Maybe the Egyptians? Seriously what is wrong with these idiots?
Probably smelled like Woodstock too.Tanya 93 said:
I have visited the Ben & Jerry's plant in Burlington
The workers all look exactly how you imagine them.
Social media. Everyone's thoughts are now just seen by all due to platforms. And since most don't want to think for themselves, but most of these people are merely virtue signalers rather than people who actually would take real action, they simply pick the things that make them feel like they are better people than others.Roots86 said:
WTH happened to this world? It's like it happened overnight. But it's been over a span of several years. Its really really sad for all the children going forward. Better start prayin folks.
God Bless America
Happening Now: Ben and Jerry’s parent company Unilever has lost $2.5 billion in market cap and continues to drop.
— 🇺🇸Travis🇺🇸 (@Travis_in_Flint) July 6, 2023
On the 4th of July Ben and Jerry’s called for returning stolen indigenous land even though they currently run a 200,000 sq ft plant on “indigenous” land. They’ve… pic.twitter.com/7tgdMevhRM
Broncos said:This 4th of July, it's high time we recognize that the US exists on stolen Indigenous land and commit to returning it. Learn more and take action now: https://t.co/45smaBmORH pic.twitter.com/a6qp7LXUAE
— Ben & Jerry's (@benandjerrys) July 4, 2023
CanyonAg77 said:
In my area, the Comanches stole it from the Apaches, who stole it from the Pueblo tribes, who stole it from the Plainview culture, who stole it from the Folsom, who stole it from the Clovis….
Exactly who are we giving it back to?
Well, they missed the "enslaved each other" as one of the activities...Aggies2009 said:The "and now we have cell phones" line made me laugh out loud.One Louder said:
This response wraps it up nicely.
First, who is we? I haven't "taken" squat from anyone. Second, who did they (American Indians) take said land from before they got here? Third, it didn't start with Americans, it started with a multitude of others (Brits, Spanish, Dutch, French, etc). However, I do agree that the statute of limitations have been exceeded.malibucharles said:Their lifestyle required a lot of land to survive. They under utilized it and we are now getting more value out of each acre. It is a fact that we took their land, but what is done is done. There is no giving back so it is an exercise in futility to even discuss it.A Net Full of Jello said:That was my first thought. Do we just give it back to the tribe our ancestors "stole" it from? Or to the tribe that had it before them? What happens to people like good ol' Lizzie Warren who are both American Indian and white? Does she have to live here only half the year? Explain how this is going to work.CanyonAg77 said:
In my area, the Comanches stole it from the Apaches, who stole it from the Pueblo tribes, who stole it from the Plainview culture, who stole it from the Folsom, who stole it from the Clovis….
Exactly who are we giving it back to?
I tell you what. These people suggesting this should give up their homes to the American Indians to show us exactly how it needs to be done. They go first and set the example for the rest of us to follow.