I love it! Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

**** the Stalinists.

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I love it! Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

**** the Stalinists.

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Like I have said over and over in this thread. Smith did this to himself. Invoke CIPA and everything gets front loaded with many more pretrial motions than usual and those have to be resolved before the case can ever go to trial. He should have seen this coming.

Also, he was free to pull all the shenanigans he wanted in D.D.C. But when push came to shove, he had no choice but to indict in a single judge division where the judge is really unfriendly. Oops.

Per Mark Levin, The Landmark Legal Foundation is reporting that they have discovered that the government had the originals of all of the documents they sought to seize/did (illegally) seize at Mar a Lago.

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Also, he was free to pull all the shenanigans he wanted in D.D.C. But when push came to shove, he had no choice but to indict in a single judge division where the judge is really unfriendly. Oops.

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I don't think she's unfriendly, she just doesn't have a lawfare mentality to get Trump no matter what.

Converting a document dispute into espionage charges was always a stretch but most pundits looking at this case at first thought Trump could have some real exposure. But the FBI botched the search warrant and the conduct of the raid itself was less than by the book. Smith's team was trying to cover that up and Cannon saw through that effort.

To me, this case is essentially dead in the water until after the election. Nor do I think it will go to trial even after the election.

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Also, he was free to pull all the shenanigans he wanted in D.D.C. But when push came to shove, he had no choice but to indict in a single judge division where the judge is really unfriendly. Oops.

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I don't think she's unfriendly, she just doesn't have a lawfare mentality to get Trump no matter what.

Converting a document dispute into espionage charges was always a stretch but most pundits looking at this case at first thought Trump could have some real exposure. But the FBI botched the search warrant and the conduct of the raid itself was less than by the book.

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And Garland is sticking with the "the execution of the warrant was routine and used standard form language" excuse. That is absurd on its face. Garland should be jailed for obstruction of justice. He is full of *****

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And Garland is sticking with the "the execution of the warrant was routine and used standard form language" excuse. That is absurd on its face. Garland should be jailed for obstruction of justice. He is full of *****

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I am the last person to defend Garland but I do believe there is some standard language used, especially when those search warrants are directed towards a large mansion, with high dollar owners and their security detail will be surprised by their arrival.

That being said, the notion that Trump's SS detail could be an issue for the FBI was something that could be assuaged with a phone call, which they ended up doing right before they arrived.

But assuming Garland read the probable cause affidavit, which I'm sure he did, he knew it was FOS. For that alone I blame him. Former DC Circuit Court Judge? He knew that search was going to be illegal and tasked Smith with papering over and covering it up. Garland chose his Special Prosecutor...unwisely...given Smith's tarnished history.

Maybe someone else might have been able to pull it off but to me, one thing is certain, few could have f***ed it up worse than Smith has at this point.

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I am the last person to defend Garland but I do believe there is some standard language used, especially when those search warrants are directed towards a large mansion, with high dollar owners and their security detail will be surprised by their arrival.

That being said, the notion that Trump's SS detail could be an issue for the FBI was something that could be assuaged with a phone call, which they ended up doing right before they arrived.

But assuming Garland read the probable cause affidavit, which I'm sure he did, he knew it was FOS. For that alone I blame him. Former DC Circuit Court Judge? He knew that search was going to be illegal and tasked Smith with papering over and covering it up. Garland chose his Special Prosecutor...unwisely...given Smith's tarnished history.

Maybe someone else might have been able to pull it off but to me, one thing is certain, few could have f***ed it up worse than Smith has at this point.

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He chose Smith quite intentionally. He knew Smith was crooked and he wanted him to continue being crooked. Democrat AGs are all "wingmen," which is utter bull*****

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No doubt there. I am so old school. I still love the law but by the late 90s I realized that the professionals had left the profession...so I quit. Might have been a few years early in making that call. But now?

Glad I am out of that. I would have likely killed myself, opposing counsel or a judge by this point were I still in the trenches of what now passes as the legal profession.

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I am the last person to defend Garland but I do believe there is some standard language used, especially when those search warrants are directed towards a large mansion, with high dollar owners and their security detail will be surprised by their arrival.

That being said, the notion that Trump's SS detail could be an issue for the FBI was something that could be assuaged with a phone call, which they ended up doing right before they arrived.

But assuming Garland read the probable cause affidavit, which I'm sure he did, he knew it was FOS. For that alone I blame him. Former DC Circuit Court Judge? He knew that search was going to be illegal and tasked Smith with papering over and covering it up. Garland chose his Special Prosecutor...unwisely...given Smith's tarnished history.

Maybe someone else might have been able to pull it off but to me, one thing is certain, few could have f***ed it up worse than Smith has at this point.

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I actually could buy garland not reading the probable cause affidavit. Plausible deniability. Tho I can truthfully say I don't think the guy knows the truth if it dragged its sweaty balls all over his face again.

MORE documents from unsealed classified docs case.

This is from the official FBI report dated June 3, 2022--two months before the armed raid of MAL.

Trump had delayed his planned trip to relocate to Bedminster for the summer in order to greet degenerate midget Jay Bratt (chief… pic.twitter.com/BuWP6V4v0T

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) May 23, 2024

From March 2023 WashPo piece "Showdown Before the Raid."

Degenerate midget Jay Bratt wanted to authorize the raid in May 2022 but he got pushback from Washington FBI field office. Main Justice and FBI HQ started conspiring shortly after the FBI opened the investigation in March… pic.twitter.com/CPJsY8YLde

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) May 23, 2024

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So, wait, the executive branch had all the classified documents the whole time???

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The PITC was created in March 2015 by Executive Order in response to an October 2014 incident in which Russian hackers breached Executive Office of the President computers. The committee includes representatives of the DOD and Homeland Security, and establishes that the President controls all the information he receives through the network.

A 2015 Memorandum of Understanding between the members of the PITC set out the logistical framework for this program and was released by America First Legal on Thursday morning (emphasis mine):
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Today, AFL releases a never-before-public memo from the White House confirming the DOD has been "operating and maintaining the information resources and information systems provided to the President, Vice President, and Executive Office of the President (EOP)." This memo reveals that the White House secretly created and apparently maintains an information technology community that enforced Obama's executive order to ensure that presidents could store their records on DOD servers without losing control.

What it means is that the federal government has preserved and retained all EOP records on its servers, and therefore, consistent with Obama's order, it likely possesses a substantial amount, if not all, of President Trump's classified documents.

Under section 2.01 of the memo, the White House Communications Agency provides core services related to unclassified records. Under section 2.06 of the memo, the National Security Council provides classified services.

Section 2.04 of the memo concedes that all "records created, stored, used, or transmitted by, on, or through the information resources and information systems provided to the President" were stored at DOD. Thus, the White House Communications Agency and NSC at the White House simply provide services regarding records housed at DOD.

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So, though the administration likely had the originals of the documents at issue, and though Trump's lawyers were working with the DOJ to determine what documents should be returned to the National Archives (if any), Jack Smith went ahead with a full raid on Mar-a-Lago and went so far as to have his thugs ransack and photograph Melania Trump and Barron Trump's bedrooms and personal spaces (people who were not targets of the search warrant).

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Infuriating. More absurdity in the Nauta trial.

I mistakenly credited Landmark Legal Foundation in my post above. Thanks for finding a link.

Our government has gone rogue. Where are all those people who posted breathlessly about nuclear codes and other ridiculous lies put out by Jack Smith's office to interfere in the election?

Absolutely agree. Again it's all so infuriating but all we can do is hope justice prevails/election isn't stolen etc.

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Absolutely agree. Again it's all so infuriating but all we can do is hope justice prevails/election isn't stolen etc.

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I am thankful patriots continue to chip away at the lies. Imbeciles will continue to believe every breathless false leak the stalinists plant in the press, so all good people can do is work to find the truth.

If I remember correctly Barry left the White House with every file, every hard drive, everything all the way down to the sticky notes, and were stored in Chicago in a private storage under the guise that he was going to digitally archive everything for his library that has yet to be built to this day. The private storage facility was a year later designated as an approved offsite archive of NARA.


Now NARA claims the Obama Presidential Library has no physical location; it's the first to be wholly virtual. NARA claims 95% of Obama administration documents were "born digital," meaning they have no "hard-copy" version and don't need to be digitized. WTF? Why did he need a ten thousand square foot warehouse to house an archive that's 95% already digital? Perhaps it's a lot of trinkets and gifts he received buts that's a lot of warehouse space.

Now he's still being sued by Chicago over the land they donated under the guise that his library was built there. Now construction began in 2021 on the "Obama Presidential Center", and it's a complex in Chicago managed by the privately-run Obama Foundation. But because the center is not affiliated with NARA and looks more like Decca than any library.

When they raided MAL the MSM ran articles claiming not one scrap of classified documents were taken is the multiple truckloads of stuff they took from the White House. But it was proven Barry and Hillary were using private email accounts for all sorts of classified stuff and Hillary ran the entire state department off an Apple server in her bathroom in her private residence basement. But it's (D)ifferent as is popular here.

This entire case from MAL is a farce

And even more recently than the Clinton/Obama documents, let's not forget Hunter's pretty damn obvious use/access to classified information as he schlepped his 'expertise' and services to Russian billionaires.

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A Hunter Biden email sent to an American aluminum company and promising information on Russian oligarchs is raising fresh concerns about the first son's access to classified documents recently discovered in his father's Wilmington, Del., home as lawmakers prepare to investigate allegations of influence peddling.

Documents dating back to 2011 on his notorious "laptop from hell" showed Hunter offered to sell intelligence on Russian oligarchs to the US aluminum firm Alcoa Inc. for $55,000, according to The Post's exclusive October 2021 report.

As his father served as former President Barack Obama's second-in-command, Hunter Biden offered to provide a "statistical analysis of political and corporate risks, elite networks associated with Oleg Deripaska, the Russian CEO of Basic Element company and United company RUSAL," which had just signed a metal supply agreement with Alcoa.

Hunter Biden also offered the company a "list of elites of similar rank in Russia, map of [Deripaska's] networks based on frequency of interaction with selected elites and countries."

The deeply detailed proposal has come under sharp scrutiny given recent revelations that Hunter Biden had access to the Delaware lake-front home where secret papers from his father's time as vice president were discovered in a garage, basement and library

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The email from Hunter to Devon Archer included a 22-point memo he described as "thoughts after doing some research" included prescient predictions that Petro Poroshenko would be elected Ukraine's president and "some sort of decentralization will likely occur in the East."

"If it doesn't the Russians will continue to escalate there [sic] destabilization campaign, which could lead to a full scale take over of the eastern region most critically Donetsk," Hunter Biden wrote. "The strategic value is to create a land bridge for RU[ssia] to Crimea."

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Hunter, then a crackhead, just happened to be a Ukrainian politics expert and had the foresight that the Russians would build the Kerch bridge, something the Russian oligarchs (Putin pals) needed his expertise on. Sure thing, I know if I need to know anything about politics and construction on the other side of the planet, I'll first look for a crackhead living in his dad's house.

No, of course Hunter was never charged, nor was Biden, with mishandling classified documents.

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Further proof that short people have no reason to live

Obama has maintained access to the NSA pipeline of all citizens digital data NSA collects. Just like a trojan virus that does not need FISA warrants.

It's Barry's inside tech team data mining of citizens information from NSAs pipeline that can spit out a list of 10MM 20MM... people who absolutely with 99.999% accuracy will not vote in an election. Like a list of people also with the psychological profile uneducated, easily duped, and depressed. Ballot printers then go whirrrr for the mules.

BREAKING: Special counsel Jack Smith has asked the judge in Trump's classified documents case to bar Trump from making statements that pose a risk to law enforcement. https://t.co/TmqGgVMGEm

— ABC News (@ABC) May 25, 2024

Judge Cannon to Smith: Pound sand.

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They also point out that Trump's lawyers misleadingly characterized the FBI's "Use of Deadly Force" policy in their motion that has caused the current controversy, noting Trump's attorneys without explanation omitted the word "only" before the words "when necessary" without any ellipses reflecting the omission.

For example, this is how Trump's attorneys wrote about the policy in their filing: "Law enforcement officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force when necessary" but how it actually reads on the policy statement is: "Law enforcement officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force only when necessary."

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So the DOJ is mad at Trump's people because they omitted the word 'only' from the FBI's deadly force policy during the maralago raid?

Seems wild to be arguing about this. Seems like they got bigger fish to fry.

They probably got 90-people working on this case and they mad about what Trump's people did.

Why was any of this latest information under seal in the first place?

What was the justification for that?

Why is this just now coming to light almost a year in?

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Why was any of this latest information under seal in the first place?

What was the justification for that?

Why is this just now coming to light almost a year in?

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Because of Smith's BS claim that Trump had documents relating to national security he had the DC bunch place everything under seal to hide his BS. The feds use NSEC as an excuse to his the ugly truth and always have. See JFK files

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BREAKING: Special counsel Jack Smith has asked the judge in Trump's classified documents case to bar Trump from making statements that pose a risk to law enforcement. https://t.co/TmqGgVMGEm

— ABC News (@ABC) May 25, 2024

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**** Jack Smith!

Here's a link to the brief:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.581.0_1.pdf

Pathetic.

At some point you gotta ask whether it's worth imploding the federal criminal justice system on account of Trump.

So you got to wonder how big of a threat Trump is to the party in power.

If you trying to be a serious country this is like taking a dump in your own hot-tub.

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At some point you gotta ask whether it's worth imploding the federal criminal justice system on account of Trump.

So you got to wonder how big of a threat Trump is to the party in power.

If you trying to be a serious country this is like taking a dump in your own hot-tub.

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You gotta break a few eggs to bake a decent cake


The real question is do you have a real country if you continue to let this crap continue regardless of it's Trump or whoever. If anyone thinks there's any excuse for looking the other way you're part of the problem

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At some point you gotta ask whether it's worth imploding the federal criminal justice system on account of Trump.

So you got to wonder how big of a threat Trump is to the party in power.

If you trying to be a serious country this is like taking a dump in your own hot-tub.

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Corruption is corruption. It can't be tolerated, for surely one day it will show up on your doorstep.

Although Smith is correct that the FBI plan indicated Trump's lawyers would be notified before the raid, media reports and congressional testimony indicate that's not what happened.

DOJ brass decided not to notify Evan Corcoran until after the raid began.

Of all the stupid and… pic.twitter.com/Yt3WfJI64s

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) May 25, 2024

In addition to making several admonishments to Jack Smith about vague, generalized claims of threats against anyone involved in the case to keep evidence concealed, Judge Cannon last month consented to his request to keep GJ testimony of 2 law enforcement officials involved in… pic.twitter.com/PTyzMFAc95

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) May 25, 2024

NEW: Donald Trump just filed a response to Jack Smith's holiday weekend motion to modify release conditions to prohibit the former president from making statements about law enforcement involved in classified documents case: pic.twitter.com/Wm2Lms58KR

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) May 27, 2024

My followers already know this because after Smith filed his motion, I noted how many times Judge Cannon has scolded prosecutors for making vague claims about witness safety in their requests to seal evidence.

Which is why my first reaction to Smith's motion is that DOJ just… pic.twitter.com/UqCtIwfmOh

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) May 28, 2024

I mean, how dumb for Smith to file another motion when Cannon just scolded DOJ for inappropriate conduct less than 10 days ago. pic.twitter.com/wAEksNJQPM

— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) May 28, 2024

My guess is this is somehow strategic on Smith's part. He's trying to elicit a reaction from the judge so they can use it to frame her as protecting Trump. I hope she depantses this piece of *****

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The judge overseeing Donald Trump's classified documents case in Florida on Tuesday denied prosecutors' request to bar the former president from making public statements that could endanger law enforcement agents participating in the prosecution.

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon said in her order that prosecutors on special counsel Jack Smith's team didn't give defense lawyers adequate time to discuss the request before it was filed Friday evening. She denied the request without prejudice, meaning prosecutors could file it again.

The request followed a distorted claim by Trump last week that the FBI agents who searched his Mar-a-Lago estate in August 2022 were "authorized to shoot me" and were "locked & loaded ready to take me out & put my family in danger."

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee was referring to the disclosure in a court document that the FBI, during the search in Palm Beach, Florida, followed a standard use-of-force policy that prohibits the use of deadly force except when the officer conducting the search has a reasonable belief that the "subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person."

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Prosecutors said in court papers late Friday that Trump's statements falsely suggesting that federal agents "were complicit in a plot to assassinate him" expose law enforcement officers some of whom prosecutors noted will be called as witnesses at his trial "to the risk of threats, violence, and harassment."

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