A court has the inherent authority to determine the jurisdiction of the cases that come before it.Quote:
The proper way to give original jurisdiction to the Supreme Court is by amending the Constitution to explicitly permit it.
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Former Attorney General Bill Barr said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation" that he now believes former President Donald Trump will face charges over the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021.
Co-host Robert Costa said, "Trump was indicted and arraigned in the records case. Do you believe is a target, potentially in the January 6 case?
Barr said, "Yes. And, by the way, I defended him on cases that I think are unfair, like the one up in New York and so forth. I think the January 6 case will be a hard case to make because of First Amendment interest. But I am actually beginning to think they will pull the trigger on that. I would expect it to be this summer."
He added, "Because of the First Amendment interests, we don't want to get in a position where people can't complain about an election."
Barr concluded, "I am more skeptical of that case but I think it is likely it will be brought."
And he's not wrong. They are throwing everything at Trump, not because they want him to be the nominee like our new group of psyops CM's and rinos think with their demoralized lackey's, the do not want him to be the Republican nominee.aggiehawg said:
I wish Barr would just shut up already. Now he's predicting Jan 6th charges are coming.LINKQuote:
Former Attorney General Bill Barr said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation" that he now believes former President Donald Trump will face charges over the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021.
Co-host Robert Costa said, "Trump was indicted and arraigned in the records case. Do you believe is a target, potentially in the January 6 case?
Barr said, "Yes. And, by the way, I defended him on cases that I think are unfair, like the one up in New York and so forth. I think the January 6 case will be a hard case to make because of First Amendment interest. But I am actually beginning to think they will pull the trigger on that. I would expect it to be this summer."
He added, "Because of the First Amendment interests, we don't want to get in a position where people can't complain about an election."
Barr concluded, "I am more skeptical of that case but I think it is likely it will be brought."
Unfortunately, he is probably correct. I don't believe he is in favor of nor believes that President Trump did anything to warrant charges, but yes he should keep out of this bs or at least more clearly state President Trump did nothing illegal.aggiehawg said:
I wish Barr would just shut up already. Now he's predicting Jan 6th charges are coming.LINKQuote:
Former Attorney General Bill Barr said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation" that he now believes former President Donald Trump will face charges over the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021.
Co-host Robert Costa said, "Trump was indicted and arraigned in the records case. Do you believe is a target, potentially in the January 6 case?
Barr said, "Yes. And, by the way, I defended him on cases that I think are unfair, like the one up in New York and so forth. I think the January 6 case will be a hard case to make because of First Amendment interest. But I am actually beginning to think they will pull the trigger on that. I would expect it to be this summer."
He added, "Because of the First Amendment interests, we don't want to get in a position where people can't complain about an election."
Barr concluded, "I am more skeptical of that case but I think it is likely it will be brought."
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When asked at a post-midterms press conference how other world leaders should view this moment for America, with Trump potentially running for the presidency again, Biden said he will make sure Trump doesn't take power.
"We just have to demonstrate that he will not take power if he does run, making sure he under legitimate efforts of our Constitution does not become the next president again," Biden said.
And if he has to comment at all about Trump and Jan 6t, he should ask whether the people at twitter who took down his tweet denouncing the violence and asking for people to go home as potentially criminal. There is no 1st amendment right to delete speech, as twitter did.Quote:
Unfortunately, he is probably correct. I don't believe he is in favor of nor believes that President Trump did anything to warrant charges, but yes he should keep out of this bs or at least more clearly state President Trump did nothing illegal.
RGLAG85 said:And he's not wrong. They are throwing everything at Trump, not because they want him to be the nominee like our new group of psyops CM's and rinos think with their demoralized lackey's, the do not want him to be the Republican nominee.aggiehawg said:
I wish Barr would just shut up already. Now he's predicting Jan 6th charges are coming.LINKQuote:
Former Attorney General Bill Barr said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation" that he now believes former President Donald Trump will face charges over the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021.
Co-host Robert Costa said, "Trump was indicted and arraigned in the records case. Do you believe is a target, potentially in the January 6 case?
Barr said, "Yes. And, by the way, I defended him on cases that I think are unfair, like the one up in New York and so forth. I think the January 6 case will be a hard case to make because of First Amendment interest. But I am actually beginning to think they will pull the trigger on that. I would expect it to be this summer."
He added, "Because of the First Amendment interests, we don't want to get in a position where people can't complain about an election."
Barr concluded, "I am more skeptical of that case but I think it is likely it will be brought."
Maroon Dawn said:Ags77 said:
As I said quite awhile ago, imo, this won't be the last indictment trump gets. I believe he will be indicted in Georgia, also.
Now convictions, that's a whole nother story .
He won't be convicted.
That's not the point.
The point is
1) create a massive distraction from Bidens crimes
2) make him a martyr of the right to ensure he wins the nominations
Pretty sure Trump can see the big picture.AgLiving06 said:
This is actually why if Trump was smart, he'd have played king maker instead of trying to be king again. Someone like DeSantis, backed by Trump would have been a phenomenal 1-2 combo that holds the republican party together + brings in the independents who don't want to vote for Biden or Trump.
But of course, Trump doesn't want to see the big picture and can't accept he lost to Biden and thinks the result will be better this time.
Your last sentence just said it all. Thanks for the new angle and trying.AgLiving06 said:RGLAG85 said:And he's not wrong. They are throwing everything at Trump, not because they want him to be the nominee like our new group of psyops CM's and rinos think with their demoralized lackey's, the do not want him to be the Republican nominee.aggiehawg said:
I wish Barr would just shut up already. Now he's predicting Jan 6th charges are coming.LINKQuote:
Former Attorney General Bill Barr said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation" that he now believes former President Donald Trump will face charges over the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021.
Co-host Robert Costa said, "Trump was indicted and arraigned in the records case. Do you believe is a target, potentially in the January 6 case?
Barr said, "Yes. And, by the way, I defended him on cases that I think are unfair, like the one up in New York and so forth. I think the January 6 case will be a hard case to make because of First Amendment interest. But I am actually beginning to think they will pull the trigger on that. I would expect it to be this summer."
He added, "Because of the First Amendment interests, we don't want to get in a position where people can't complain about an election."
Barr concluded, "I am more skeptical of that case but I think it is likely it will be brought."
This is actually why if Trump was smart, he'd have played king maker instead of trying to be king again. Someone like DeSantis, backed by Trump would have been a phenomenal 1-2 combo that holds the republican party together + brings in the independents who don't want to vote for Biden or Trump.
But of course, Trump doesn't want to see the big picture and can't accept he lost to Biden and thinks the result will be better this time.
fka ftc said:Pretty sure Trump can see the big picture.AgLiving06 said:
This is actually why if Trump was smart, he'd have played king maker instead of trying to be king again. Someone like DeSantis, backed by Trump would have been a phenomenal 1-2 combo that holds the republican party together + brings in the independents who don't want to vote for Biden or Trump.
But of course, Trump doesn't want to see the big picture and can't accept he lost to Biden and thinks the result will be better this time.
And I also have issues accepting an L when the game was rigged.
RGLAG85 said:Your last sentence just said it all. Thanks for the new angle and trying.AgLiving06 said:RGLAG85 said:And he's not wrong. They are throwing everything at Trump, not because they want him to be the nominee like our new group of psyops CM's and rinos think with their demoralized lackey's, the do not want him to be the Republican nominee.aggiehawg said:
I wish Barr would just shut up already. Now he's predicting Jan 6th charges are coming.LINKQuote:
Former Attorney General Bill Barr said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation" that he now believes former President Donald Trump will face charges over the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021.
Co-host Robert Costa said, "Trump was indicted and arraigned in the records case. Do you believe is a target, potentially in the January 6 case?
Barr said, "Yes. And, by the way, I defended him on cases that I think are unfair, like the one up in New York and so forth. I think the January 6 case will be a hard case to make because of First Amendment interest. But I am actually beginning to think they will pull the trigger on that. I would expect it to be this summer."
He added, "Because of the First Amendment interests, we don't want to get in a position where people can't complain about an election."
Barr concluded, "I am more skeptical of that case but I think it is likely it will be brought."
This is actually why if Trump was smart, he'd have played king maker instead of trying to be king again. Someone like DeSantis, backed by Trump would have been a phenomenal 1-2 combo that holds the republican party together + brings in the independents who don't want to vote for Biden or Trump.
But of course, Trump doesn't want to see the big picture and can't accept he lost to Biden and thinks the result will be better this time.
You are completely ignoring what we've seen the last few years.Maroon Dawn said:eric76 said:Bull*****fka ftc said:
You have repeatedly advocated for the violation of Trump's rights under the Constitution, so I hardly think you are the one to now draw the line of following it word by word when it comes to SCOTUS original jurisdiction.
You right, it does say a lot about someone when they pick and choose who gets what rights under the Constitution.
Trump has the same rights as any other citizen. No more. No less.
Please
We've all listened to your endless ad nauseam TDS over the years and how you support any run around the Constitution that Dems want to finally try and get him this time
So just stop
What a hoot!Stat Monitor Repairman said:A court has the inherent authority to determine the jurisdiction of the cases that come before it.Quote:
The proper way to give original jurisdiction to the Supreme Court is by amending the Constitution to explicitly permit it.
The US Supreme Court has plenary authority to determine jurisdiction of the cases that come before it.
I don't believe that there is any possible way to get such a piece of crap passed by 2/3 of each House of Congress and ratified by 3/4 of the States.Stat Monitor Repairman said:
All cases filed against Donald J. Trump where the United States is a party shall be consolidated and brought before the Supreme Court of the United States.
How's that for a draft constitutional amendment? Are you onboard?
Agreed.aggiehawg said:And if he has to comment at all about Trump and Jan 6t, he should ask whether the people at twitter who took down his tweet denouncing the violence and asking for people to go home as potentially criminal. There is no 1st amendment right to delete speech, as twitter did.Quote:
Unfortunately, he is probably correct. I don't believe he is in favor of nor believes that President Trump did anything to warrant charges, but yes he should keep out of this bs or at least more clearly state President Trump did nothing illegal.
Imma bring ya to Jesus on this eric76.eric76 said:What a hoot!Stat Monitor Repairman said:A court has the inherent authority to determine the jurisdiction of the cases that come before it.Quote:
The proper way to give original jurisdiction to the Supreme Court is by amending the Constitution to explicitly permit it.
The US Supreme Court has plenary authority to determine jurisdiction of the cases that come before it.
The courts don't choose their own jurisdiction. That is set by laws and by the Constitution. There is nothing at all Constitutional about the Supreme Court trashing the Constitution to exercise original jurisdiction to hear a case that is not theirs.
Maybe he wants God to have original jurisdiction.aggiehawg said:
So you are saying you are on a mission from God?
richardag said:Unfortunately, he is probably correct. I don't believe he is in favor of nor believes that President Trump did anything to warrant charges, but yes he should keep out of this bs or at least more clearly state President Trump did nothing illegal.aggiehawg said:
I wish Barr would just shut up already. Now he's predicting Jan 6th charges are coming.LINKQuote:
Former Attorney General Bill Barr said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation" that he now believes former President Donald Trump will face charges over the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021.
Co-host Robert Costa said, "Trump was indicted and arraigned in the records case. Do you believe is a target, potentially in the January 6 case?
Barr said, "Yes. And, by the way, I defended him on cases that I think are unfair, like the one up in New York and so forth. I think the January 6 case will be a hard case to make because of First Amendment interest. But I am actually beginning to think they will pull the trigger on that. I would expect it to be this summer."
He added, "Because of the First Amendment interests, we don't want to get in a position where people can't complain about an election."
Barr concluded, "I am more skeptical of that case but I think it is likely it will be brought."
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He's like a 9-year-old - a defiant 9-year-old kid - who's always pushing the glass toward the edge of the table, defying his parents to stop him from doing it. It's a means of self-assertion and exerting his dominance over other people. And he's a very petty individual who will always put his interests ahead of the country's, his personal gratification of his ego. But our country can't be a therapy session for a troubled man like this.
Here are the problems I see with your argument:Retired FBI Agent said:Well that's the kicker isn't it? Trump gets into a vehicle. And gets out of the vehicle. In that analogy, he gets in the vehicle as POTUS and exits it as FPOTUS. An extraordinary change has taken place for him, and the country:aggiehaw said:
Trump gets into a vehicle with "National Defense Information" documents at 11:45 AM on January 20, 2021. He arrives at Joint Base Andrews at 12:05PM with the same documents.
Does the FBI or NARA Archivist have the right to tackle him the moment he steps out of the vehicle since he is now technically not in authorized possession uner the Espionage Act, according to Jack Smith?
Trump enters the vehicle:
- as the Head of government and Head of state, with the authority to make political appointments, veto a bill, issue a pardon, among other authority.
- as Commander in Chief, with the authority to launch a missile strike, direct a military assault, among other authority.
- with authorized access to and possession of sensitive classified documents and national defense information.
Trump exists the vehicle:
- as a private citizen with lifetime benefits associated with The Former Presidents Act.
- as a private citizen who no longer holds the roles, responsibilities, authorities, etc. of the POTUS.
- with unauthorized access to and possession of sensitive classified documents and national defense information.
And yet, despite this major shift in his authority, Trump isn't tackled outside of his vehicle for another 566 days.
- 100+ Days after "leaving the vehicle", NARA asks that Trump turn over any presidential records he may have kept upon leaving WH. They make repeated requests.
- 300+ Days after "leaving the vehicle", NARA warns Trump through his attorneys that it will refer the matter to DOJ if he does not comply. They make repeated requests.
- 362 Days after "leaving the vehicle", Trump returns 15 boxes to NARA.
- 385 Days after "leaving the vehicle", NARA refers the matter to DOJ after their initial review finds the 15 boxes contain numerous classified documents.
- 465 Days after "leaving the vehicle", DOJ asks Trump attorneys for immediate access to the 15 boxes. Trump attorneys ask for extension.
- 477 Days after "leaving the vehicle", a grand jury issues issues a subpoena to Trump and his office requiring that they turn over all classified materials in their possession.
- 489 Days after "leaving the vehicle", Trump's lawyers advise him to comply. "Hey we think you might get tackled since you've left the vehicle".
- 500 Days after "leaving the vehicle", FBI/DOJ visits MAL to collect 38 classified documents from Trump's lawyer.
- 563 Days after "leaving the vehicle", DOJ applies for a warrant to search Mar-a-Lago.
- 566 Days after "leaving the vehicle", FBI tackles Trump outside of the vehicle to seize remaining documents, via MAL raid.
Say instead of POTUS-FPOTUS, it's an intelligence analyst, attorney, or administrative assistant. Their last day of employment is January 20, 2021 with a stated end time of 12:00 PMwhere they are walked off Pentagon/campus/office by Human Resources. All parties knew this was the scheduled last day of employment.
Do those ex-employees walk out that day with sensitive documents, thumb drives, existing case files, etc? Are they mixing those documents with personal documents, and their cardboard box with a picture frame, plant, and their lunchbox? Did they keep an iPad, perhaps on accident, loaded with case files? Do they get stopped by security in the parking lot, perhaps tackled? Does IT shut down their electronic access to systems? Are they given 1 week to give back their company cell phone? 2 weeks?
At what point does the company have the right to take it's "valuable" property back after the person's employment has clearly ended?