Pandemic of the Unvaccinated

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https://www.dshs.texas.gov/news-alerts/texas-data-shows-unvaccinated-people-20-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid-19

Texas Data Shows Unvaccinated People 20 times More Likely to Die From COVID-19.


Now I'm not backing this up. But it was on the internet so it's gotta be true. Plus it's from Texas.
GeorgiAg
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Joe Biden disagrees with all of you.

Manhattan
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FriscoKid said:

MouthBQ98 said:

To be fair, there was a short window when the older variants of the virus that were somewhat more dangerous and less hyper-contagious and were closely matched to the first vaccines where the vaccines were useful as a risk reducer for older and vulnerable age categories. That didn't last very long. And we don't know what the long term damage of all those replicated spike proteins might be.

Of course, when that time was very obviously passed, and when we learned that no one under 50 that wasn't horrifically obese and unhealthy was at any substantial risk, they kept pushing it hard.


Great post and I am 100% in this camp. The vaccine probably helped save at risk people against Delta. Once omicron came around and infected everyone (vaxed or not) and didn't kill people anymore then the vaccines were worthless. Yet people like manhatten and STM continued to crow about how great they were. The vaccines were almost completely ineffective at preventing infection or spread.



Well it killed unvaxxed people 3x as often as vaxxed, but you are right in the sense that it infected everyone which is why fax is down to 1.8x.

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Of course, when that time was very obviously passed, and when we learned that no one under 50 that wasn't horrifically obese and unhealthy was at any substantial risk, they kept pushing it hard.


We knew that in about May 2020, but had zero federal leadership.
Definitely Not A Cop
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Are you going to admit you were lying? Or are you just going to pretend you weren't called out on it?
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Manhattan said:

FriscoKid said:

MouthBQ98 said:

To be fair, there was a short window when the older variants of the virus that were somewhat more dangerous and less hyper-contagious and were closely matched to the first vaccines where the vaccines were useful as a risk reducer for older and vulnerable age categories. That didn't last very long. And we don't know what the long term damage of all those replicated spike proteins might be.

Of course, when that time was very obviously passed, and when we learned that no one under 50 that wasn't horrifically obese and unhealthy was at any substantial risk, they kept pushing it hard.


Great post and I am 100% in this camp. The vaccine probably helped save at risk people against Delta. Once omicron came around and infected everyone (vaxed or not) and didn't kill people anymore then the vaccines were worthless. Yet people like manhatten and STM continued to crow about how great they were. The vaccines were almost completely ineffective at preventing infection or spread.



Well it killed unvaxxed people 3x as often as vaxxed, but you are right in the sense that it infected everyone which is why fax is down to 1.8x.

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Of course, when that time was very obviously passed, and when we learned that no one under 50 that wasn't horrifically obese and unhealthy was at any substantial risk, they kept pushing it hard.


We knew that in about May 2020, but had zero federal leadership.


The gaslighting here is incredible. Only one party was continuing shutdowns and mask mandates across the country long after it was proven both were pointless.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

Are you going to admit you were lying? Or are you just going to pretend you weren't called out on it?


Post the lie, there's another link saying 20x, it started high, and as more and more people got COVID we got more herd immunity and now it's 1.8x, getting to herd immunity without everyone vaxed took an extra 300,000 deaths.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

Manhattan said:

Definitely Not A Cop said:

GeorgiAg said:

Y'all fighting over math and science. LOL. As more time goes by, one side will be proven to be true.


Hint. Manhattan is correct. (Not saying on 100% but most of it).

The unvaxxed had more serious reactions and those reactions, along with comorbidities causes the deaths.


You are saying that there are 3x as many unvaccinated deaths as vaccinated deaths in the US?


That's not what I said… I said the last time I posted the data people are 3x more likely to die if unvaccinated.

Now it's 1.8x.


That is what you said.

Manhattan said:

It is/was, last time I posted the data it was 3 to 1 deaths of unvaccinated to vaccinated.


Lying again.


Here you go. You lied about 3x as many deaths, then tried to lie about that claim when called out on it.

There is no link in this thread that shows there are 20x the amount of deaths of unvaccinated people vs vaccinated. Lying again.
austinAG90
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How many times did you test positive for Covid ?
ttha_aggie_09
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Who is this "we"? It is certainly not you
FriscoKid
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According to Biden if you are fully vaccinated then you are at a very very low risk of catching COVID. Would be interested to know if you voted for a liar or a con man?

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If the vaccines worked then how could the unvaccinated kill the vaccinated?

That was kind of the point of this thread. The topic was not if the vaccine helped prevent death vs the delta variant. You should probably quit while you are behind unless you want to deny science.
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FriscoKid said:

If the vaccines worked then how could the unvaccinated kill the vaccinated?

That was kind of the point of this thread. The topic was not if the vaccine helped prevent death vs the delta variant. You should probably quit while you are behind unless you want to deny science.



300,000 extra deaths is a "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated"
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Are you going to admit you are lying?
Manhattan
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Biden I'd an idiot, but that was before delta when the vax was effective at preventing the virus and preventing transmission.
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Manhattan said:

FriscoKid said:

If the vaccines worked then how could the unvaccinated kill the vaccinated?

That was kind of the point of this thread. The topic was not if the vaccine helped prevent death vs the delta variant. You should probably quit while you are behind unless you want to deny science.



300,000 extra deaths is a "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated"
Sometimes it is best to quit digging.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

Are you going to admit you are lying?

Are you going post the lie?
Definitely Not A Cop
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So we have you admitting the vaccine is ineffective now.

Now we just need you to admit your first post was a complete lie.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

Definitely Not A Cop said:

Manhattan said:

Definitely Not A Cop said:

GeorgiAg said:

Y'all fighting over math and science. LOL. As more time goes by, one side will be proven to be true.


Hint. Manhattan is correct. (Not saying on 100% but most of it).

The unvaxxed had more serious reactions and those reactions, along with comorbidities causes the deaths.


You are saying that there are 3x as many unvaccinated deaths as vaccinated deaths in the US?


That's not what I said… I said the last time I posted the data people are 3x more likely to die if unvaccinated.

Now it's 1.8x.


That is what you said.

Manhattan said:

It is/was, last time I posted the data it was 3 to 1 deaths of unvaccinated to vaccinated.


Lying again.


Here you go. You lied about 3x as many deaths, then tried to lie about that claim when called out on it.

There is no link in this thread that shows there are 20x the amount of deaths of unvaccinated people vs vaccinated. Lying again.


Quoted again for you. As you seem to keep missing it. Or you are just continuing to lie. Who knows (we all do).
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Manhattan said:

FriscoKid said:

If the vaccines worked then how could the unvaccinated kill the vaccinated?

That was kind of the point of this thread. The topic was not if the vaccine helped prevent death vs the delta variant. You should probably quit while you are behind unless you want to deny science.



300,000 extra deaths is a "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated"


Again, if the "vaccine" works, how did the unvaccinated kill the vaccinated?

You can't answer this simple question.
Logos Stick
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Manhattan said:

Definitely Not A Cop said:

Are you going to admit you were lying? Or are you just going to pretend you weren't called out on it?


Post the lie, there's another link saying 20x, it started high, and as more and more people got COVID we got more herd immunity and now it's 1.8x, getting to herd immunity without everyone vaxed took an extra 300,000 deaths.


We have not and never will reach herd immunity with COVID. It mutates too frequently. You don't know what you are talking about
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Manhattan said:

FriscoKid said:

If the vaccines worked then how could the unvaccinated kill the vaccinated?

That was kind of the point of this thread. The topic was not if the vaccine helped prevent death vs the delta variant. You should probably quit while you are behind unless you want to deny science.



300,000 extra deaths is a "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated"


Seriously post the link. I highly doubt that 300k unvaccinated people died during the delta wave because most of the vulnerable population took the vaccine and the vaccine was barely available for Alpha.

Where did you get the 300k number from?
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Watching Manhattan melt down in real-time has been very entertaining
Manhattan
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Logos Stick said:

Manhattan said:

Definitely Not A Cop said:

Are you going to admit you were lying? Or are you just going to pretend you weren't called out on it?


Post the lie, there's another link saying 20x, it started high, and as more and more people got COVID we got more herd immunity and now it's 1.8x, getting to herd immunity without everyone vaxed took an extra 300,000 deaths.


We have not and never will reach herd immunity with COVID. It mutates too frequently. You don't know what you are talking about


So we don't have 4,000 people in the US dying from COVID per day because _________?
FriscoKid
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I'd love to give you the benefit of the doubt, but I am arguing with someone that claimed taxes were lower in NYC, NY than in Texas.

I'm not sure the debate contestants are evenly matched.
Logos Stick
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Manhattan said:

Logos Stick said:

Manhattan said:

Definitely Not A Cop said:

Are you going to admit you were lying? Or are you just going to pretend you weren't called out on it?


Post the lie, there's another link saying 20x, it started high, and as more and more people got COVID we got more herd immunity and now it's 1.8x, getting to herd immunity without everyone vaxed took an extra 300,000 deaths.


We have not and never will reach herd immunity with COVID. It mutates too frequently. You don't know what you are talking about


So we don't have 4,000 people in the US dying from COVID per day because _________?


The virus, like all corona viruses, becomes less deadly over time as it mutates. It has nothing to do with herd immunity.
Manhattan
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Go start your own thread. I'm still paying almost as much in tax in Texas than here, and I don't even live there.
Stat Monitor Repairman
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We three full years later and we are still arguing about covid.

Nobody has come to Jesus on this covid.

Thats the hard reality.

We are no closer to any sort of consensus about covid. Nobody will acknowledge anything. Nobody wants to talk about it. The most vocal people, now, suddenly don't want to talk about covid.

Now the only people talking about covid are the people that were right about covid the whole time.

Occasionally a covid poster will stick his head out the woodpile. Which is fine.

Covid people have been giving the best they got this entire time and we still here. Arguing about covid.

More than 3-years later.
Manhattan
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you are still significantly more likely to die if you haven't had it or are unvaxxed…
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Manhattan said:

Go start your own thread. I'm still paying almost as much in tax in Texas than here, and I don't even live there.
This is the second time you've said this to someone on my thread. Take a hint and get lost from this one.
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Logos Stick said:

Manhattan said:

Logos Stick said:

Manhattan said:

Definitely Not A Cop said:

Are you going to admit you were lying? Or are you just going to pretend you weren't called out on it?


Post the lie, there's another link saying 20x, it started high, and as more and more people got COVID we got more herd immunity and now it's 1.8x, getting to herd immunity without everyone vaxed took an extra 300,000 deaths.


We have not and never will reach herd immunity with COVID. It mutates too frequently. You don't know what you are talking about


So we don't have 4,000 people in the US dying from COVID per day because _________?


The virus, like all corona viruses, becomes less deadly over time as it mutates. It has nothing to do with herd immunity.


And corona viruses remain undefeated against vaccines. Scientists have tried to develop vaccines in the past, but have failed every single time against them.
Definitely Not A Cop
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Lol are you not going to admit you were lying?
Logos Stick
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Manhattan said:

you are still significantly more likely to die if you haven't had it or are unvaxxed…


That has nothing to do with herd immunity.

Vax effectiveness at this point is nil.
Manhattan
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This thread is example of people willing to lie about COVID because they don't want to admit reality when they voted for every single person in charge of their state and federal government and don't want to admit they were responsible for their own suffering.

So they turned the vax into the boogie man. Even though it was trumps one success (even though I think it should have been released before efficacy data)
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Manhattan said:

This thread is example of people willing to lie about COVID because they don't want to admit reality when they voted for every single person in charge of their state and federal government and don't want to admit they were responsible for their own suffering.


Yes. You are certainly proving that. And when it's proven you are a liar, you just act like you didn't see it.
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