OFFICIAL ****Donald Trump versus Ron DeSantis*** thread...

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Yep...after they had time to get all of the numbers to line up with the narrative, I'm sure they did "match"...
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FireAg said:

Yep...after they had time to get all of the numbers to line up with the narrative, I'm sure they did "match"...
Oh, of course.
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She certified on the condition that an audit would be performed and then tried to rescind her vote after she received the call from Trump and the RNC chairwoman. FWIW, the audit was finished in February and found all the numbers were matching.
You need air quotes around the word matching.
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rgvag11 said:

FireAg said:

Yep...after they had time to get all of the numbers to line up with the narrative, I'm sure they did "match"...
Oh, of course.
Look...believe what you want...

"No new taxes"
"You get to keep your doctor"
"WMD"
"The vaxx will cure us all"
"Two weeks to flatten the curve"

I make my own conclusions based on my own brain and my own eyes...I do not simply "trust" the government to give me the truth...they will give me the "facts" as they have deemed them to be...
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Can you stop derailing this thread? There are countless other threads about 2020 and fraud.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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It's fine to discuss in the context of effects on the election, but to relitigate the merits, it should be on a different thread.
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I believe there was pointed, specific election fraud in 20.

But....



....one person did something about it and won elections and policy wins and the other has been nothing but a liberal, whiny ***** about it.
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That WI SCOTUS mattered. If only we had someone that didn't drag the rest of the ballot down.
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TRM said:

That WI SCOTUS mattered. If only we had someone that didn't drag the rest of the ballot down.

Republicans will lose about 15 seats just because of forced redistricting at this rate.

Until father time catches up to Trump, he will continue to drag down numerous races because whoever he decides kissed his ring enough, MAGA will vote for despite being unelectable in purple states. Then they get slaughtered in the general.

And this is not to wish death on him, but no one lives forever and when his time is up, MAGA dies with him.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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FireAg said:

rgvag11 said:

FireAg said:

Yep...after they had time to get all of the numbers to line up with the narrative, I'm sure they did "match"...
Oh, of course.
Look...believe what you want...

"No new taxes"
"You get to keep your doctor"
"WMD"
"The vaxx will cure us all"
"Two weeks to flatten the curve"

I make my own conclusions based on my own brain and my own eyes...I do not simply "trust" the government to give me the truth...they will give me the "facts" as they have deemed them to be...
"I'll drain the swamp"
"Mexico will pay for the wall"
"Lock her up"

Remember...Trump WAS the "government"...
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"LAW AND ORDER"
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Trumpers: "Niki Haley is a birdbrain and a warmongering neo-con!"

Also Trumpers: "hey, Niki Haley would be a really good VP candidate for Trump!"
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Rapier108 said:


MAGA dies with him.
let's hope MAGA dies sooner rather than later.

regardless of the impact on the big orange idiot.
Rapier108
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C@LAg said:

Rapier108 said:


MAGA dies with him.
let's hope MAGA dies sooner rather than later.

regardless of the impact on the big orange idiot.
Sadly, it won't. MAGA is devoted to Trump as though he is Jesus walking on water.

Their hatred for DeSantis is so strong, some of them on other sites are celebrating a Clinton appointed federal judge who said today that DeSantis lied about the bill to protect kids from sexual mutilation surgery, and is going to strike the law down because it denies them "healthcare." They just want to see DeSantis take a "loss."

Until Trump is gone from this Earth, MAGA will be all Trump and only Trump. They will vote for Trump or whoever Trump tells them to vote for without giving it a second though.

If he picks Haley as his running mate; MAGA will support it 100%, even though many have previously said they wouldn't vote for Trump if he picks her.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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FireAg said:

Trump has increased his polling average lead in Iowa..nearly 33 points ahead of DeSantis now...I think DeSantis is going to fall short in IA, NH, and SC...

Trump's polling average nationally in the R primaries is now well entrenched in the 60s and continuing to grow...

I'm becoming more convinced that DeSantis won't make it to Super Tuesday...

24 days to IA and everything is overwhelmingly favoring Trump...
Cool, I guess you have nothing to worry about.
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Ronald Reagan
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DeSantis didn't think this thru, iterations of the possible outcomes. He would have been a powerful ally of Trump, a friend indeed, instead, his future is not so bright.

Our governor of the great state of Texas certainly has vision, possibly a SOS for Trump?
Ramaswampy will be in his cabinet as well.

Haley needs to learn from the DeSantis failures, not too late but she is at a crossroad.

Trump 2024.
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Rapier108 said:

C@LAg said:

Rapier108 said:


MAGA dies with him.
let's hope MAGA dies sooner rather than later.

regardless of the impact on the big orange idiot.
Sadly, it won't. MAGA is devoted to Trump as though he is Jesus walking on water.

Their hatred for DeSantis is so strong, some of them on other sites are celebrating a Clinton appointed federal judge who said today that DeSantis lied about the bill to protect kids from sexual mutilation surgery, and is going to strike the law down because it denies them "healthcare." They just want to see DeSantis take a "loss."

Until Trump is gone from this Earth, MAGA will be all Trump and only Trump. They will vote for Trump or whoever Trump tells them to vote for without giving it a second though.

If he picks Haley as his running mate; MAGA will support it 100%, even though many have previously said they wouldn't vote for Trump if he picks her.


All that is gonna happen for MAGA is that they will just fully support Donald Trump, Jr. when he takes the baton from Dad for the 2028 and 2032 elections. We are so fooked, it's not even funny. We cannot beat the Dems for the White House with a Trump ever again. The brand is too toxic. But they have so many people that adore them that they easily win the nominations . It's so ridiculous, but it's Peak America right now.
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JWinTX said:

Rapier108 said:

C@LAg said:

Rapier108 said:


MAGA dies with him.
let's hope MAGA dies sooner rather than later.

regardless of the impact on the big orange idiot.
Sadly, it won't. MAGA is devoted to Trump as though he is Jesus walking on water.

Their hatred for DeSantis is so strong, some of them on other sites are celebrating a Clinton appointed federal judge who said today that DeSantis lied about the bill to protect kids from sexual mutilation surgery, and is going to strike the law down because it denies them "healthcare." They just want to see DeSantis take a "loss."

Until Trump is gone from this Earth, MAGA will be all Trump and only Trump. They will vote for Trump or whoever Trump tells them to vote for without giving it a second though.

If he picks Haley as his running mate; MAGA will support it 100%, even though many have previously said they wouldn't vote for Trump if he picks her.


All that is gonna happen for MAGA is that they will just fully support Donald Trump, Jr. when he takes the baton from Dad for the 2028 and 2032 elections. We are so fooked, it's not even funny. We cannot beat the Dems for the White House with a Trump ever again. The brand is too toxic. But they have so many people that adore them that they easily win the nominations . It's so ridiculous, but it's Peak America right now.
Donald Jr will never be President.

The next Trump may be Barron if he follows his dad's advise.

The other kids have zero electability.

You guys are drama queens, let's enjoy the coming election year. Money to be made, places to go.
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Ag with kids said:

FireAg said:

rgvag11 said:

FireAg said:

Yep...after they had time to get all of the numbers to line up with the narrative, I'm sure they did "match"...
Oh, of course.
Look...believe what you want...

"No new taxes"
"You get to keep your doctor"
"WMD"
"The vaxx will cure us all"
"Two weeks to flatten the curve"

I make my own conclusions based on my own brain and my own eyes...I do not simply "trust" the government to give me the truth...they will give me the "facts" as they have deemed them to be...
"I'll drain the swamp"
"Mexico will pay for the wall"
"Lock her up"

Remember...Trump WAS the "government"...

Precisely why I only trust me, and not government or politicians…not even DeSantis or Trump…
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FireAg said:

Ag with kids said:

FireAg said:

rgvag11 said:

FireAg said:

Yep...after they had time to get all of the numbers to line up with the narrative, I'm sure they did "match"...
Oh, of course.
Look...believe what you want...

"No new taxes"
"You get to keep your doctor"
"WMD"
"The vaxx will cure us all"
"Two weeks to flatten the curve"

I make my own conclusions based on my own brain and my own eyes...I do not simply "trust" the government to give me the truth...they will give me the "facts" as they have deemed them to be...
"I'll drain the swamp"
"Mexico will pay for the wall"
"Lock her up"

Remember...Trump WAS the "government"...

Precisely why I only trust me, and not government or politicians…not even DeSantis or Trump…
As long as it's in the form of a poll amirite?
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Ag with kids said:

FireAg said:

Ag with kids said:

FireAg said:

rgvag11 said:

FireAg said:

Yep...after they had time to get all of the numbers to line up with the narrative, I'm sure they did "match"...
Oh, of course.
Look...believe what you want...

"No new taxes"
"You get to keep your doctor"
"WMD"
"The vaxx will cure us all"
"Two weeks to flatten the curve"

I make my own conclusions based on my own brain and my own eyes...I do not simply "trust" the government to give me the truth...they will give me the "facts" as they have deemed them to be...
"I'll drain the swamp"
"Mexico will pay for the wall"
"Lock her up"

Remember...Trump WAS the "government"...

Precisely why I only trust me, and not government or politicians…not even DeSantis or Trump…
As long as it's in the form of a poll amirite?

When the polling averages, once again, correctly predict the winner, what will your excuse be?
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PA24 said:

JWinTX said:

Rapier108 said:

C@LAg said:

Rapier108 said:


MAGA dies with him.
let's hope MAGA dies sooner rather than later.

regardless of the impact on the big orange idiot.
Sadly, it won't. MAGA is devoted to Trump as though he is Jesus walking on water.

Their hatred for DeSantis is so strong, some of them on other sites are celebrating a Clinton appointed federal judge who said today that DeSantis lied about the bill to protect kids from sexual mutilation surgery, and is going to strike the law down because it denies them "healthcare." They just want to see DeSantis take a "loss."

Until Trump is gone from this Earth, MAGA will be all Trump and only Trump. They will vote for Trump or whoever Trump tells them to vote for without giving it a second though.

If he picks Haley as his running mate; MAGA will support it 100%, even though many have previously said they wouldn't vote for Trump if he picks her.


All that is gonna happen for MAGA is that they will just fully support Donald Trump, Jr. when he takes the baton from Dad for the 2028 and 2032 elections. We are so fooked, it's not even funny. We cannot beat the Dems for the White House with a Trump ever again. The brand is too toxic. But they have so many people that adore them that they easily win the nominations . It's so ridiculous, but it's Peak America right now.
Donald Jr will never be President.

The next Trump may be Barron if he follows his dad's advise.

The other kids have zero electability.

You guys are drama queens, let's enjoy the coming election year. Money to be made, places to go.


Don Sr has zero electability, and yet here we are. He's the Republican L Ron Hubbard
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The primaries are, by definition, an election…

He's going to win them…

His electability, at least in the R party, seems quite strong…
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Was meant that the same "electability" that Don Jr lacks, his father also lacks. Unless you take the cult of personality into account. Then Don Jr is a perfectly good faximile of Miscavage.
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FireAg said:

Ag with kids said:

FireAg said:

Ag with kids said:

FireAg said:

rgvag11 said:

FireAg said:

Yep...after they had time to get all of the numbers to line up with the narrative, I'm sure they did "match"...
Oh, of course.
Look...believe what you want...

"No new taxes"
"You get to keep your doctor"
"WMD"
"The vaxx will cure us all"
"Two weeks to flatten the curve"

I make my own conclusions based on my own brain and my own eyes...I do not simply "trust" the government to give me the truth...they will give me the "facts" as they have deemed them to be...
"I'll drain the swamp"
"Mexico will pay for the wall"
"Lock her up"

Remember...Trump WAS the "government"...

Precisely why I only trust me, and not government or politicians…not even DeSantis or Trump…
As long as it's in the form of a poll amirite?

When the polling averages, once again, correctly predict the winner, what will your excuse be?
First, you have no sense of humor.

Second, it won't be an excuse. It will be sadness that I have to relive the past 3 years again...
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FireAg said:

The primaries are, by definition, an election…

He's going to win them…

His electability, at least in the R party, seems quite strong…


Primary electability is a world apart from general election electability. Most of the country thinks he's a clown and he has zero chance at winning in November.
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FireAg said:

The primaries are, by definition, an election…

He's going to win them…

His electability, at least in the R party, seems quite strong…
The Democrat/Socialist Party has become so strong that the "R Party"
houses practically everyone else...which is a strength or weakness depending
on a number of things such as how strong and effective a leader is (DeSantis)
or how well known the leader is (Trump).
Then, there is Haley - she doesn't impress me yet, but it is time for a woman to be Pres.
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From Trump's surgeon general today.



And he didn't like getting called out.


"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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The world needs Nationalism, that is what Trump told em in his speech to the UN.

This time 4 years ago, before Covid, Trump was a shoo in for his second term.

The last 4 years have been a terrible time for all of us, the entire world.

Maybe Trump can stop the madness, maybe not.

He is going to get one more shot at it, not Ron or Haley.

Trump 2024

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PA24 said:

The world needs Nationalism, that is what Trump told em in his speech to the UN.

This time 4 years ago, before Covid, Trump was a shoo in for his second term.

The last 4 years have been a terrible time for all of us, the entire world.

Maybe Trump can stop the madness, maybe not.

He is going to get one more shot at it, not Ron or Haley.

Trump 2024


He's going to get one more shot because Republicans are their own worst enemy. He will fail spectacularly and probably from a jail cell.
DeSantis 2024
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The big problem is all the GOTV operations damage being done to the RNC and state GOP organizations.
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PA24 said:

The world needs Nationalism, that is what Trump told em in his speech to the UN.

This time 4 years ago, before Covid, Trump was a shoo in for his second term.

The last 4 years have been a terrible time for all of us, the entire world.

Maybe Trump can stop the madness, maybe not.

He is going to get one more shot at it, not Ron or Haley.

Trump 2024




He STARTED the craptasticness of the last 4 years, both the inflationary crap and the COVID idiocy and pre-therapeutic.

No thanks, just say "No" to both liberal 80 yr old idiots.

Desantis 2024
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It's not Republicans, it's just MAGA.

They're not republican, they're not conservative, they stand for nothing more than empowering Trump.
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It's totally going to be different this time.


"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Ronald Reagan
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aggie93 said:

It's totally going to be different this time.





Here's the core problem - the people who continue to bring up these lies and failed promises by Trump actually believe people are voting on policy when they're voting for Trump. And there's still a dwindling number of Trump supporters who claim they are.

But most Trump supporters have dropped the charade and openly admit the truth these days - they're voting for "revenge!". You can't argue with something as personal as feelings of revenge. Logic be damned when compared to their emotions of wanted to stick it to the Dems and get redemption for Trump losing in '20.

The two leading candidates, according to the infalliable polls at least, have to appeal to voter's emotions, lest voters actually look at their track records and how ****ing old they are. The ultimate solution is simple - get them out of the race. The Dems know that and will do just that when they force Biden out late. Too bad the Rep's won't.
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