That is all it takes to get his endorsement.
“I got asked in a town hall today, ‘would you put our troops in Israel?’ Of course not. They can defend themselves. We support their right to defend themselves, but it's their war. It's not our war.” pic.twitter.com/j6kZD2I4Jn
— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) October 20, 2023
In @RealClearNews average of national polls, Trump support hits new high: 59 percent. Lead over 2nd-place DeSantis also new high: 46 points. https://t.co/S5Am4JI546 pic.twitter.com/NUBGVtGZBR
— Byron York (@ByronYork) October 20, 2023
Who do we think his people are in this context, and why would they be talking to Forbes? Regardless appreciate the heads up on the giant Scam. Nice try Forbes.aggie93 said:
Trump still posting about how he didn't make the Forbes 400 and he wants you to be mad about it:
@realDonaldTrump
Forbes Magazine is owned by Communist China. Nobody hates "TRUMP" more than they do. I told my people, years ago, don't waste your time talking to them, it's a giant Scam. Besides, Forbes is dying a slow death!
BD88 said:In @RealClearNews average of national polls, Trump support hits new high: 59 percent. Lead over 2nd-place DeSantis also new high: 46 points. https://t.co/S5Am4JI546 pic.twitter.com/NUBGVtGZBR
— Byron York (@ByronYork) October 20, 2023
BD88 said:In @RealClearNews average of national polls, Trump support hits new high: 59 percent. Lead over 2nd-place DeSantis also new high: 46 points. https://t.co/S5Am4JI546 pic.twitter.com/NUBGVtGZBR
— Byron York (@ByronYork) October 20, 2023
BD88 said:
If the polls were reversed, we all know you would be throwing them in everyones faces.
aggie93 said:
RINO Governor of WV (who only recently became a Republican, big Covid shutdown guy) is thrilled to have Trump's endorsement against a Republican Congressman with a near perfect conservative voting record:
BD88 said:
At what point does ron start making his move? The gap is widening not narrowing. All we hear from a few of you is how great ron is. Why are others not seeing what the few of you are seeing? When does that narrowing occur? If the polls were reversed, we all know you would be throwing them in everyones faces.
FL_Ag1998 said:BD88 said:
At what point does ron start making his move? The gap is widening not narrowing. All we hear from a few of you is how great ron is. Why are others not seeing what the few of you are seeing? When does that narrowing occur? If the polls were reversed, we all know you would be throwing them in everyones faces.
That's great, a poll shows Trump with an insurmountable lead.
How about posting something besides a poll, something recent and relevant to the current and future, which convinces me that Trump is the right man for President in 2024?
BD88 said:
At what point does ron start making his move? The gap is widening not narrowing. All we hear from a few of you is how great ron is. Why are others not seeing what the few of you are seeing? When does that narrowing occur? If the polls were reversed, we all know you would be throwing them in everyones faces.
Who knows? Maybe he doesn't. I do know that the polls make no sense though. DeSantis is drawing larger crowds than Trump now and he is doing a LOT more events. He's got over 20,000 voters in Iowa alone that have signed a pledge to Caucus for him. If the polls are accurate for Iowa he literally has every person who is going to vote for him that has signed a pledge as well if you do the math. DeSantis is still raising a ton of money and getting endorsements as well. His interviews and actions have been absolutely nails, even Trump supporters agree with that for the most part.BD88 said:
At what point does ron start making his move? The gap is widening not narrowing. All we hear from a few of you is how great ron is. Why are others not seeing what the few of you are seeing? When does that narrowing occur? If the polls were reversed, we all know you would be throwing them in everyones faces.
I am not here to change your mind. And the info i post is RECENT and RELEVANT. It just may not be what you like to see or hear. Are you a moderator or something? Again, when does ron start his move? Doubt he ever does.FL_Ag1998 said:BD88 said:
At what point does ron start making his move? The gap is widening not narrowing. All we hear from a few of you is how great ron is. Why are others not seeing what the few of you are seeing? When does that narrowing occur? If the polls were reversed, we all know you would be throwing them in everyones faces.
That's great, a poll shows Trump with an insurmountable lead.
How about posting something besides a poll, something recent and relevant to the current and future, which convinces me that Trump is the right man for President in 2024?
BD88 said:I am not here to change your mind. And the info i post is RECENT and RELEVANT. It just may not be what you like to see or hear. Are you a moderator or something? Again, when does ron start his move? Doubt he ever does.FL_Ag1998 said:BD88 said:
At what point does ron start making his move? The gap is widening not narrowing. All we hear from a few of you is how great ron is. Why are others not seeing what the few of you are seeing? When does that narrowing occur? If the polls were reversed, we all know you would be throwing them in everyones faces.
That's great, a poll shows Trump with an insurmountable lead.
How about posting something besides a poll, something recent and relevant to the current and future, which convinces me that Trump is the right man for President in 2024?
BD88 said:I am not here to change your mind. And the info i post is RECENT and RELEVANT. It just may not be what you like to see or hear. Are you a moderator or something? Again, when does ron start his move? Doubt he ever does.FL_Ag1998 said:BD88 said:
At what point does ron start making his move? The gap is widening not narrowing. All we hear from a few of you is how great ron is. Why are others not seeing what the few of you are seeing? When does that narrowing occur? If the polls were reversed, we all know you would be throwing them in everyones faces.
That's great, a poll shows Trump with an insurmountable lead.
How about posting something besides a poll, something recent and relevant to the current and future, which convinces me that Trump is the right man for President in 2024?
You post polls showing a Trump lead.BD88 said:I am not here to change your mind. And the info i post is RECENT and RELEVANT. It just may not be what you like to see or hear. Are you a moderator or something? Again, when does ron start his move? Doubt he ever does.FL_Ag1998 said:BD88 said:
At what point does ron start making his move? The gap is widening not narrowing. All we hear from a few of you is how great ron is. Why are others not seeing what the few of you are seeing? When does that narrowing occur? If the polls were reversed, we all know you would be throwing them in everyones faces.
That's great, a poll shows Trump with an insurmountable lead.
How about posting something besides a poll, something recent and relevant to the current and future, which convinces me that Trump is the right man for President in 2024?
Why would I want to know that he's going to do for me? I just want to know he's WINNING in a poll. Gives me warm fuzzies.FL_Ag1998 said:BD88 said:I am not here to change your mind. And the info i post is RECENT and RELEVANT. It just may not be what you like to see or hear. Are you a moderator or something? Again, when does ron start his move? Doubt he ever does.FL_Ag1998 said:BD88 said:
At what point does ron start making his move? The gap is widening not narrowing. All we hear from a few of you is how great ron is. Why are others not seeing what the few of you are seeing? When does that narrowing occur? If the polls were reversed, we all know you would be throwing them in everyones faces.
That's great, a poll shows Trump with an insurmountable lead.
How about posting something besides a poll, something recent and relevant to the current and future, which convinces me that Trump is the right man for President in 2024?
Again, you keep ignoring the "besides random polls" part of my question/request. And am I supposed to cast my vote for President because a poll told me to? That's literally the argument that Trump supporters are making...."Vote for Trump, this polls says he's a shoe-in!"
Wow. Convincing argument.
Seriously, all I'm asking for is something that Trump has said or done recently that justifies voting for him in 2024 to lead our country.
Apparently that's an impossible request.
BD88 said:
At what point does ron start making his move? The gap is widening not narrowing. All we hear from a few of you is how great ron is. Why are others not seeing what the few of you are seeing? When does that narrowing occur? If the polls were reversed, we all know you would be throwing them in everyones faces.
Just pointing out people leading in polls. Like you are.BD88 said:
Dont think we are talking about a 3.2% lead. But I appreciate you chiming in.
BD88 said:I am not here to change your mind. And the info i post is RECENT and RELEVANT. It just may not be what you like to see or hear. Are you a moderator or something? Again, when does ron start his move? Doubt he ever does.FL_Ag1998 said:BD88 said:
At what point does ron start making his move? The gap is widening not narrowing. All we hear from a few of you is how great ron is. Why are others not seeing what the few of you are seeing? When does that narrowing occur? If the polls were reversed, we all know you would be throwing them in everyones faces.
That's great, a poll shows Trump with an insurmountable lead.
How about posting something besides a poll, something recent and relevant to the current and future, which convinces me that Trump is the right man for President in 2024?
I wonder how much of that MONEY would start flowing to him if other candidates start dropping out? I mean, there's a lot of Not Trump GOP voters out there that will end up voting for him if he's the nominee...but will they send him money, too?J. Walter Weatherman said:BD88 said:I am not here to change your mind. And the info i post is RECENT and RELEVANT. It just may not be what you like to see or hear. Are you a moderator or something? Again, when does ron start his move? Doubt he ever does.FL_Ag1998 said:BD88 said:
At what point does ron start making his move? The gap is widening not narrowing. All we hear from a few of you is how great ron is. Why are others not seeing what the few of you are seeing? When does that narrowing occur? If the polls were reversed, we all know you would be throwing them in everyones faces.
That's great, a poll shows Trump with an insurmountable lead.
How about posting something besides a poll, something recent and relevant to the current and future, which convinces me that Trump is the right man for President in 2024?
Well if Trump lemming message board poster BD88 doubts he ever "starts his move", whatever that means, I guess he should just quit.
I know trumpers want everyone to drop out so they can anoint Dear Leader without anyone actually voting (and so Trump can use campaign donations to pay his mounting legal bills), but I think the rest of us are going to wait until actual primary votes are cast.
It's also telling that you never post anything positive about Trump, just polls and more polls. There's no defense or logical reason to vote for him at this point so I don't blame you, but still pretty strange.
BD88 said:
You just keep promoting your guy. So many seem to be jumping on the bandwagon. We dont have proof of it but it must be happening. You guys make everyone want to jump on board.
So why should we vote for Trump besides polls then?BD88 said:
You just keep promoting your guy. So many seem to be jumping on the bandwagon. We dont have proof of it but it must be happening. You guys make everyone want to jump on board.
Quote:
In early May, as Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida prepared to run for president, about a dozen right-wing social media influencers gathered at his pollster's home for cocktails and a poolside buffet.
The guests all had large followings or successful podcasts and were already fans of the governor. But Mr. DeSantis's team wanted to turn them into a battalion of on-message surrogates who could tangle with Donald J. Trump and his supporters online.
For some, however, the gathering had the opposite effect, according to three attendees who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they did not want to damage their relationships with the governor or other Republican leaders.
Mr. DeSantis's advisers were defensive when asked about campaign strategy, they said, and struggled to come up with talking points beyond the vague notion of "freedom." Some of the guests at the meeting, which has not previously been reported, left doubtful that the DeSantis camp knew what it was in for.
Four months later, those worries seem more than justified. Mr. DeSantis's hyper-online strategy, once viewed as a potential strength, quickly became a glaring weakness on the presidential trail, with a series of gaffes, unforced errors and blown opportunities, according to former staff members, influencers with ties to the campaign and right-wing commentators.
Even after a recent concerted effort to reboot, the campaign has had trouble shaking off a reputation for being thin-skinned and meanspirited online, repeatedly insulting Trump supporters and alienating potential allies. Some of its most visible efforts including videos employing a Nazi symbol and homoerotic images have turned off donors and drawn much-needed attention away from the candidate. And, despite positioning itself as a social media-first campaign, it has been unable to halt the cascade of internet memes that belittle and ridicule Mr. DeSantis.
And then there's this.Quote:
The trouble began immediately. When Mr. DeSantis rolled out his campaign in a live chat on Twitter, the servers crashed, booting hundreds of thousands of people off the feed and drawing widespread ridicule.
When his campaign manager at the time, Generra Peck, discussed the fiasco at a meeting the next morning, she claimed the launch was so popular it broke the internet, according to three attendees, former aides who insisted on anonymity for fear of reprisal for discussing internal operations.
Each recalled being flabbergasted at the apparent disconnect: Senior staff members seemed convinced that an embarrassing disaster had somehow been a victory.
Ms. Peck exercised little oversight of the campaign's online operations, which were anchored by a team known internally as the "war room," according to the three former aides. The team consisted of high-energy, young staffers many just out of college who spent their days scanning the internet for noteworthy story lines, composing posts and dreaming up memes and videos they hoped would go viral.
At the helm was Christina Pushaw, Mr. DeSantis's rapid response director. Ms. Pushaw has become well known for her extremely online approach to communications, including a scorched-earth strategy when it comes to critics and the press. As the governor's press secretary, she frequently posted screenshots of queries from mainstream news outlets on the web rather than responding to them and once told followers to "drag" parlance for a prolonged public shaming an Associated Press reporter, which got her temporarily banned from Twitter.
Long before the presidential run was official, Ms. Pushaw and some others on the internet team often posting under the handle @DeSantisWarRoom aggressively went after critics, attacking the "legacy media" while promoting the governor's agenda in Florida.
Hmm. Rings a bell but I can't quite put my finger on it.Quote:
The existing network of DeSantis influencers has presented challenges for the campaign. Online surrogates for Mr. DeSantis have repeatedly parroted, word for word, the talking points emailed to them each day by the campaign, undermining the effort to project an image of widespread and organic support.
Last month, for example, three different accounts almost simultaneously posted about Mr. Trump getting booed at a college football game in Iowa. Bill Mitchell, a DeSantis supporter with a large following on X, said the identical posts were coincidental.
"I talk with all of the team members when necessary but other than the daily emails get no specific direction," he said.
WATCH: at a town hall in Iowa, @RonDeSantis condemns the chaos, poor policies, and insane spending coming out of D.C. and calls out these antics for making life so difficult for so many Americans.
— Bryan Griffin (@BryanDGriffin) October 21, 2023
"They benefit from this stuff!" pic.twitter.com/dTzSP0wU63
aggiehawg said:
This one? LINK
Some tidbits:Quote:
In early May, as Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida prepared to run for president, about a dozen right-wing social media influencers gathered at his pollster's home for cocktails and a poolside buffet.
The guests all had large followings or successful podcasts and were already fans of the governor. But Mr. DeSantis's team wanted to turn them into a battalion of on-message surrogates who could tangle with Donald J. Trump and his supporters online.
For some, however, the gathering had the opposite effect, according to three attendees who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they did not want to damage their relationships with the governor or other Republican leaders.
Mr. DeSantis's advisers were defensive when asked about campaign strategy, they said, and struggled to come up with talking points beyond the vague notion of "freedom." Some of the guests at the meeting, which has not previously been reported, left doubtful that the DeSantis camp knew what it was in for.
Four months later, those worries seem more than justified. Mr. DeSantis's hyper-online strategy, once viewed as a potential strength, quickly became a glaring weakness on the presidential trail, with a series of gaffes, unforced errors and blown opportunities, according to former staff members, influencers with ties to the campaign and right-wing commentators.
Even after a recent concerted effort to reboot, the campaign has had trouble shaking off a reputation for being thin-skinned and meanspirited online, repeatedly insulting Trump supporters and alienating potential allies. Some of its most visible efforts including videos employing a Nazi symbol and homoerotic images have turned off donors and drawn much-needed attention away from the candidate. And, despite positioning itself as a social media-first campaign, it has been unable to halt the cascade of internet memes that belittle and ridicule Mr. DeSantis.And then there's this.Quote:
The trouble began immediately. When Mr. DeSantis rolled out his campaign in a live chat on Twitter, the servers crashed, booting hundreds of thousands of people off the feed and drawing widespread ridicule.
When his campaign manager at the time, Generra Peck, discussed the fiasco at a meeting the next morning, she claimed the launch was so popular it broke the internet, according to three attendees, former aides who insisted on anonymity for fear of reprisal for discussing internal operations.
Each recalled being flabbergasted at the apparent disconnect: Senior staff members seemed convinced that an embarrassing disaster had somehow been a victory.
Ms. Peck exercised little oversight of the campaign's online operations, which were anchored by a team known internally as the "war room," according to the three former aides. The team consisted of high-energy, young staffers many just out of college who spent their days scanning the internet for noteworthy story lines, composing posts and dreaming up memes and videos they hoped would go viral.
At the helm was Christina Pushaw, Mr. DeSantis's rapid response director. Ms. Pushaw has become well known for her extremely online approach to communications, including a scorched-earth strategy when it comes to critics and the press. As the governor's press secretary, she frequently posted screenshots of queries from mainstream news outlets on the web rather than responding to them and once told followers to "drag" parlance for a prolonged public shaming an Associated Press reporter, which got her temporarily banned from Twitter.
Long before the presidential run was official, Ms. Pushaw and some others on the internet team often posting under the handle @DeSantisWarRoom aggressively went after critics, attacking the "legacy media" while promoting the governor's agenda in Florida.Hmm. Rings a bell but I can't quite put my finger on it.Quote:
The existing network of DeSantis influencers has presented challenges for the campaign. Online surrogates for Mr. DeSantis have repeatedly parroted, word for word, the talking points emailed to them each day by the campaign, undermining the effort to project an image of widespread and organic support.
Last month, for example, three different accounts almost simultaneously posted about Mr. Trump getting booed at a college football game in Iowa. Bill Mitchell, a DeSantis supporter with a large following on X, said the identical posts were coincidental.
"I talk with all of the team members when necessary but other than the daily emails get no specific direction," he said.
Nice straw man...BD88 said:
You just keep promoting your guy. So many seem to be jumping on the bandwagon. We dont have proof of it but it must be happening. You guys make everyone want to jump on board.
Very interesting...aggiehawg said:
This one? LINK
Some tidbits:Quote:
In early May, as Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida prepared to run for president, about a dozen right-wing social media influencers gathered at his pollster's home for cocktails and a poolside buffet.
The guests all had large followings or successful podcasts and were already fans of the governor. But Mr. DeSantis's team wanted to turn them into a battalion of on-message surrogates who could tangle with Donald J. Trump and his supporters online.
For some, however, the gathering had the opposite effect, according to three attendees who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they did not want to damage their relationships with the governor or other Republican leaders.
Mr. DeSantis's advisers were defensive when asked about campaign strategy, they said, and struggled to come up with talking points beyond the vague notion of "freedom." Some of the guests at the meeting, which has not previously been reported, left doubtful that the DeSantis camp knew what it was in for.
Four months later, those worries seem more than justified. Mr. DeSantis's hyper-online strategy, once viewed as a potential strength, quickly became a glaring weakness on the presidential trail, with a series of gaffes, unforced errors and blown opportunities, according to former staff members, influencers with ties to the campaign and right-wing commentators.
Even after a recent concerted effort to reboot, the campaign has had trouble shaking off a reputation for being thin-skinned and meanspirited online, repeatedly insulting Trump supporters and alienating potential allies. Some of its most visible efforts including videos employing a Nazi symbol and homoerotic images have turned off donors and drawn much-needed attention away from the candidate. And, despite positioning itself as a social media-first campaign, it has been unable to halt the cascade of internet memes that belittle and ridicule Mr. DeSantis.And then there's this.Quote:
The trouble began immediately. When Mr. DeSantis rolled out his campaign in a live chat on Twitter, the servers crashed, booting hundreds of thousands of people off the feed and drawing widespread ridicule.
When his campaign manager at the time, Generra Peck, discussed the fiasco at a meeting the next morning, she claimed the launch was so popular it broke the internet, according to three attendees, former aides who insisted on anonymity for fear of reprisal for discussing internal operations.
Each recalled being flabbergasted at the apparent disconnect: Senior staff members seemed convinced that an embarrassing disaster had somehow been a victory.
Ms. Peck exercised little oversight of the campaign's online operations, which were anchored by a team known internally as the "war room," according to the three former aides. The team consisted of high-energy, young staffers many just out of college who spent their days scanning the internet for noteworthy story lines, composing posts and dreaming up memes and videos they hoped would go viral.
At the helm was Christina Pushaw, Mr. DeSantis's rapid response director. Ms. Pushaw has become well known for her extremely online approach to communications, including a scorched-earth strategy when it comes to critics and the press. As the governor's press secretary, she frequently posted screenshots of queries from mainstream news outlets on the web rather than responding to them and once told followers to "drag" parlance for a prolonged public shaming an Associated Press reporter, which got her temporarily banned from Twitter.
Long before the presidential run was official, Ms. Pushaw and some others on the internet team often posting under the handle @DeSantisWarRoom aggressively went after critics, attacking the "legacy media" while promoting the governor's agenda in Florida.Hmm. Rings a bell but I can't quite put my finger on it.Quote:
The existing network of DeSantis influencers has presented challenges for the campaign. Online surrogates for Mr. DeSantis have repeatedly parroted, word for word, the talking points emailed to them each day by the campaign, undermining the effort to project an image of widespread and organic support.
Last month, for example, three different accounts almost simultaneously posted about Mr. Trump getting booed at a college football game in Iowa. Bill Mitchell, a DeSantis supporter with a large following on X, said the identical posts were coincidental.
"I talk with all of the team members when necessary but other than the daily emails get no specific direction," he said.
Which is it? Are they parroting the campaign talking points everyday or are there no campaign talking points?Quote:
Mr. DeSantis's advisers were defensive when asked about campaign strategy, they said, and struggled to come up with talking points beyond the vague notion of "freedom."