100% right. Worthless

DeSantis TEARS INTO the UN:

"Look, I think the UN is a worthless organization, quite frankly... All they do is sanction Israel... I think that their behavior has been a complete disgrace." -@RonDeSantis pic.twitter.com/tbOZh3uNQU

— Bryan Griffin (@BryanDGriffin) October 12, 2023

DeSantis is right…the UN is worthless…

But they haven't really been sanctioned…

They've been condemned but I'm not aware of many sanctions against Israel that actually had teeth…

I agree. I can't recall any UN sanctions, just UN resolutions condemning them.

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I agree. I can't recall any UN sanctions, just UN resolutions condemning them.

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I agree, but he is spot on when he says they are worthless, and I wish Trump would've thrown them out of NYC…

If you want America to continue being America and not some 3rd world sh!thole, there's no other choice: https://t.co/Ultsz6AgBo

— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) October 12, 2023

To be slightly fair to the Illegals, Democrat policies are turning major US cities into 3rd world s***holes already.

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I agree. I can't recall any UN sanctions, just UN resolutions condemning them.

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I agree, but he is spot on when he says they are worthless, and I wish Trump would've thrown them out of NYC…

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Don't worry, I'm sure this time Trump will throw them out of NY, swear!

Nikki Haley is starting to really challenge DeSantis…she's pulled ahead of him in New Hampshire…

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Nikki Haley is starting to really challenge DeSantis…she's pulled ahead of him in New Hampshire…

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Oh....FFS


No...she's not. GIGO

Polls are simply one of the most ruhtarded things ever foisted upon the populace.

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Nikki Haley is starting to really challenge DeSantis…she's pulled ahead of him in New Hampshire…

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Oh....FFS


No...she's not. GIGO

Polls are simply one of the most ruhtarded things ever foisted upon the populace.

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Feel free to refute with evidence that counters...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2024-showdown-desantis-haley-battle-second-place-behind-trump

Listening to DeSantis on FoxNews right now discussing the situation in Israel…honestly zero question this guy should be in charge…

Well spoken…very business-like…talking about flights FL is chartering to Israel to get Americans out…

Really would be nice for this guy to start to get some serious traction…

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Haley has spent much more time in NH over IA this past month. The last NH poll showed Haley, DeSantis, and Christie all around 10-15% so really, she's taking from the Christie group. DeSantis had a NH swing planned in late August/early Sept, but that got called off due to Idalia and he missed 2 weeks on the trail because of that. So he hasn't been there in a month and a half.

Sidenote: nice to see Vivek collapsing in the polls.

I think after her fracking attack lie, DeSantis will be more aggressive with her at the Miami debate. I'd hit her with her comments about Hillary inspiring her to run in 2003 and using a personal email to conduct business as UN Ambassador like HRC.

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bump

Haley is playing well with women because she supporting killing unborn children.

Take that away, and she get some neocon, war without end votes and that's it.

Isn't her position consistent with the position Trump recently took? Ban after 15 weeks because that's where there would be enough consensus votes to get a ban nationally?

https://apnews.com/article/nikki-haley-abortion-president-republican-2024-cc067f58fd652c7e377e3f67c7b1d8dd

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Isn't her position consistent with the position Trump recently took? Ban after 15 weeks because that's where there would be enough consensus votes to get a ban nationally?

https://apnews.com/article/nikki-haley-abortion-president-republican-2024-cc067f58fd652c7e377e3f67c7b1d8dd

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Yes, but women hate Trump so they don't care what his new position is. Also, they blame him because of his Supreme Court picks.

it would also be nice if JUST ONCE

a Trumper could make any cogent argument as to how Trump WILL ACTUALLY win the election in November 2024.

other than "well it's rigged and they will steal it anyway!"

Pretty apt description...chickens with their head cut off.

Washington, DC is high on political theater and low on results — the complete opposite of what we’ve done in Florida.

We don’t have time for fanfare or entertainment. We just deliver. pic.twitter.com/wmw1PsK9Cu

— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) October 13, 2023

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Pretty apt description...chickens with their head cut off.

Washington, DC is high on political theater and low on results — the complete opposite of what we’ve done in Florida.

We don’t have time for fanfare or entertainment. We just deliver. pic.twitter.com/wmw1PsK9Cu

— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) October 13, 2023

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Just nails. Damn

Its funny that Russia would not have invaded Ukraine and Hamas would not have attacked Israel if Trump were in charge, but Trump couldn't even stop Democrats from stealing his election when he was in charge.

— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) October 13, 2023

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Its funny that Russia would not have invaded Ukraine and Hamas would not have attacked Israel if Trump were in charge, but Trump couldn't even stop Democrats from stealing his election when he was in charge.

— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) October 13, 2023

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Ok...

Now THAT'S funny...

Trumpers: "Trump is so strong he can end the war in Ukraine in a phone call!!"

Also Trumpers: "Trump is so strong Hamas would never have attacked Israel!!"

Also Trumpers: "Trump was so weak he was defeated by the Deep State!!"

Also Trumpers: "Trump was so weak he allowed the election to be stolen by a dementia patient!!"

Also Trumpers - where do we buy Trump NFTs to support our dear leader? While calling Obama supporters a cult.

Bill Maher speaking about Mia Khalifa: Where is Donald Trump when you need someone to pay a pornstar to stfu! 😂 pic.twitter.com/ii7jqiuCzH

— Unfiltered☢Boss (@Unfilteredboss1) October 14, 2023

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Trumpers: "Trump is so strong he can end the war in Ukraine in a phone call!!"

Also Trumpers: "Trump is so strong Hamas would never have attacked Israel!!"

Also Trumpers: "Trump was so weak he was defeated by the Deep State!!"

Also Trumpers: "Trump was so weak he allowed the election to be stolen by a dementia patient!!"

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I think the Johnny Manziel analogy is pretty good. He would have been great if he had just gotten out of his own way, but he ended up being all hype and a waste of resources, but for some reason we insist on being the Browns.

Trump telling DeSantis to drop out (claiming he's now so far behind he won't make the next debate) and go back to Florida to "fix the insurance crisis."

As always, Trump attacking from the left, because that is really the only thing the Democrats have been using to go after DeSantis.

Trump also claiming the polls show him winning 30%+ of the Democrat vote in the general.

He should really stop believing the bull**** his campaign is paying for. It might work on MAGA, but no one else believes it.

Trump attacked Gov. Reynolds again today.

At lunch yesterday, at work, I listened to two Hispanics (one a super lesbian) talk **** about Biden, Trump and Dems and then about voting for DeSantis.

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Oof. This thread is on life support.

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No, just being flooded by MAGA who don't actually want to have a discussion and hope the thread will die if they flood it with 50-100 posts a day and obfuscate any actual discussion about the candidates.

Everyone needs to stop responding to them.

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Yes the Trump vs DeSantis should just be a safe space thread for team DeSantis. Just full of rainbows, butterflies and DeSantis Warroom tweets. Nothing says conservative quite like censoring other perspectives.

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Who is being censored? If someone disagrees with you that is censorship? It seems like the Trump folks are the ones saying that we need to just quit and support Trump before a single vote has been cast. In fact we shouldn't even have debates. No, we must now over a year away from the GE put ALL of our support behind Trump no matter what he says or does and we must ignore all of his daily mistakes. Otherwise we are "censoring" Trump supporters?

The logic is just astounding. Look, if Trump is SO awesome and he is going to win SO huge then why do you care?

I just wish that the Trump supporters would actually make real arguments as to why Trump is going to be a better President than DeSantis instead of pushing polls and saying we need to have DeSantis drop out, have no debates, and preferably start giving our money to Trump for his legal bills.

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Did you read the post i replied to or did you see "texagbeliever" and think I must take the opposite of this guy.

Here is a fun question for you Aggie93: Is Trump a considerable better Presidential option than Biden?

I believe your answer is yes based on your previous replies. Yet many of your DeSantis crew mates have convinced themselves that that answer is no. Do you not find that ridiculous? Do you not think that is worth engaging on? You certainly believe differently yet you don't comment against. Why is that?

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What exactly is your goal here? I get you have this need to goaltend to the extreme, but you have already dropped any semblance of logical coherence in your argument, now you need A93 to comment on other posters? You asked for reasons why anyone would choose not to vote for Trump, and you got them. Move on, or have you been also designated as the Trump whip?

Why would conservatives NOT vote for Trump? Because THIS is the kind of crap he drives people to do.

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. . . Also ironic that Trump's 3 SC nominees all voted to overturn Roe v Wade which wouldn't have happened if he hadn't been elected president. . . .

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And who would have thought, it figures [/Alanis]

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Trump telling DeSantis to drop out (claiming he's now so far behind he won't make the next debate) and go back to Florida to "fix the insurance crisis."

As always, Trump attacking from the left, because that is really the only thing the Democrats have been using to go after DeSantis.

Trump also claiming the polls show him winning 30%+ of the Democrat vote in the general.

He should really stop believing the bull**** his campaign is paying for. It might work on MAGA, but no one else believes it.

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DeSantis's favorable/unfavorable ratings, per 538. Red arrow points to the day Alvin Bragg indicted Trump.

Yeah, Democrats aren't playing you at all, Republicans. pic.twitter.com/2tdQkAddQB

— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) October 14, 2023

He's hammering DeSantis' favorability and playing right into the Democrats' trap.

Trump and MAGA want to make sure DeSantis is destroyed for the rest of his life.

He dared to challenge the god king and must be ground to dust for doing do.

I laughed.

SCOOP: Source sent me this photo of @RonDeSantis sitting alone with another woman who isn’t his wife.

Looks at the way he is gazing into her eyes…

Have you noticed you don’t really ever see his wife on the campaign trail as much these days? @TeamDeSantis pic.twitter.com/LEZHU8AD8j

— Laura Loomer (@LauraLoomer) October 15, 2023