OFFICIAL ****Donald Trump versus Ron DeSantis*** thread...

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Always accuse your opponent of what you are doing.



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Attacking Casey DeSantis' look is a losing proposition. She'd easily become the second hottest First Lady ever. Behind Melania of course. Why can't Trump just be happy with that fact? Melania will never be topped.
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DeSantis's border plan comes out tomorrow at Eagle Pass.
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TRM said:


Cult45 doesn't care. All they want is to beat DeSantis. Beating the Democrats really doesn't factor into it anymore. They are fine with losing the general election if it means all enemies of Trump on the right are destroyed.

They're pumping out polls with Trump winning by 30-50 points in the primary, with Christie about to move up to second because in their mind, the only reason people support DeSantis is because they "anti-Trumpers" and they like Christie more because he attacks Trump.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Definitely Not A Cop said:


One of the best memes to represent Trump.
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Rapier108 said:

TRM said:


Cult45 doesn't care. All they want is to beat DeSantis. Beating the Democrats really doesn't factor into it anymore. They are fine with losing the general election if it means all enemies of Trump on the right are destroyed.

They're pumping out polls with Trump winning by 30-50 points in the primary, with Christie about to move up to second because in their mind, the only reason people support DeSantis is because they "anti-Trumpers" and they like Christie more because he attacks Trump.



What you said about maga wanting only to beat Desantis is pretty much spot on. It'll also be something political historians will talk about for years to come.
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It's not going to bode well for desantis's future political prospects if he gets beat by trump's team essentially relying on some kindergarten memes to make Ron look bad.
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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

It's not going to bode well for desantis's future political prospects if he gets beat by trump's team essentially relying on some kindergarten memes to make Ron look bad.
Won't bode well for your orange god king when he loses the election, gives Democrats total control of the government, and spends the rest of his life in prison.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:

Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

It's not going to bode well for desantis's future political prospects if he gets beat by trump's team essentially relying on some kindergarten memes to make Ron look bad.
Won't bode well for your orange god king when he loses the election, gives Democrats total control of the government, and spends the rest of his life in prison.


I'd rather Desantis get the nomination.

I'm just disappointed he seemingly hasn't made a splash yet.
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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

It's not going to bode well for desantis's future political prospects if he gets beat by trump's team essentially relying on some kindergarten memes to make Ron look bad.



The only thing Trump's team wins is Group Dip****s Of The Year award.
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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

It's not going to bode well for desantis's future political prospects if he gets beat by trump's team essentially relying on some kindergarten memes to make Ron look bad.


Agreed. It won't bode well for the US, in general. Effectively both parties will be controlled by fake news advocates at that point.
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Rapier108 said:

Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

It's not going to bode well for desantis's future political prospects if he gets beat by trump's team essentially relying on some kindergarten memes to make Ron look bad.
Won't bode well for your orange god king when he loses the election, gives Democrats total control of the government, and spends the rest of his life in prison.



You "mean" when the election "is" stolen and he is a political " "PRISONER" "...... ""



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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

It's not going to bode well for desantis's future political prospects if he gets beat by trump's team essentially relying on some kindergarten memes to make Ron look bad.

Honestly, it doesn't bode well for America when an 80 year old populist tears down a 45 year old conservative that's the best future we've had in 4 decades... but that doesn't seem to bother team Trump as they can't see further than the end of their nose, let alone the repercussions for the next 50 years.
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Him and his supporters are the worst.
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No Spin Ag said:

Rapier108 said:

TRM said:


Cult45 doesn't care. All they want is to beat DeSantis. Beating the Democrats really doesn't factor into it anymore. They are fine with losing the general election if it means all enemies of Trump on the right are destroyed.

They're pumping out polls with Trump winning by 30-50 points in the primary, with Christie about to move up to second because in their mind, the only reason people support DeSantis is because they "anti-Trumpers" and they like Christie more because he attacks Trump.



What you said about maga wanting only to beat Desantis is pretty much spot on. It'll also be something political historians will talk about for years to come.
And I think I know why.

Deep down they know Trump cannot win. He will lose to any Democrat, even Biden. Of course they will blame it on cheating and fraud because nothing is ever Trump's fault.

They just want one last victory for Trump before he takes up residence at Club Fed.

Even Cult45 Central (Free Republic) pretty much is starting to acknowledge Trump won't win, but they are 100% focused now on destroying DeSantis for the rest of his life. Nothing else matters to them anymore.

The Democrats will continue to indict Trump for the rest of 2023 because it just gets him more votes given just how stupid Cult45 has proven to be.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:

No Spin Ag said:

Rapier108 said:

TRM said:


Cult45 doesn't care. All they want is to beat DeSantis. Beating the Democrats really doesn't factor into it anymore. They are fine with losing the general election if it means all enemies of Trump on the right are destroyed.

They're pumping out polls with Trump winning by 30-50 points in the primary, with Christie about to move up to second because in their mind, the only reason people support DeSantis is because they "anti-Trumpers" and they like Christie more because he attacks Trump.



What you said about maga wanting only to beat Desantis is pretty much spot on. It'll also be something political historians will talk about for years to come.
And I think I know why.

Deep down they know Trump cannot win. He will lose to any Democrat, even Biden. Of course they will blame it on cheating and fraud because nothing is ever Trump's fault.

They just want one last victory for Trump before he takes up residence at Club Fed.

Even Cult45 Central (Free Republic) pretty much is starting to acknowledge Trump won't win, but they are 100% focused now on destroyed DeSantis for the rest of his life. Nothing else matters to them anymore.

The Democrats will continue to indict Trump for the rest of 2023 because it just gets him more votes given just ho stupid Cult45 has proven to be.


But to destroy the future that DeSantis can be for the party just boggles the mind. I can see why you call them Cult45. Only that type of mindset would do something like this.

Strange days indeed.
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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

It's not going to bode well for desantis's future political prospects if he gets beat by trump's team essentially relying on some kindergarten memes to make Ron look bad.
Way too many folks here are getting caught up in the moment. DeSantis is playing the long game while Trump is going for the knockout punch. Everything about DeSantis' campaign is centered on building momentum for when it counts not trying to win the election 8 months before a Primary vote while Trump is doing the opposite. Why?

Trump HAS to put DeSantis away. I would be shocked at his next Finance disclosure if he isn't shockingly low on funds and he is about to have to defend 4 separate legal matters simultaneously. They know they can't afford a long primary fight with DeSantis and they can only have a chance if they can dispense with him early and force his donors and supporters to choose him because they have no choice. Trump has lost all the big money that used to back him and his small money donors are getting tapped out. It's just not there. Trump is talking about ground game/ballot harvesting but he has done nothing and he won't have the money unless others give it to him or do it for him. The other problem with this is Trump is making a lot of unforced errors. The Fauci/vax stuff. The Baier interview. Yesterday praising how Lindsay Graham is very conservative. He's getting away with it to an extent but damn he is undisciplined and running a clown show. It's evident he is thinking that what he sees on Truth Social is the real world.

DeSantis knows this and is planning accordingly. He has raised stupid amounts of money and is continuing to do so. He's running a very efficient campaign and investing heavily in his ground game. He's also refining his stump speech. If you watch him he has been selective in who he is talking to and how he is talking. He intentionally uses notes instead of a teleprompter and he is referring to his notes less and less. That's because he wants to have it all completely down and then be able to add or improvise off of it without making a mistake. He now is taking more audience questions. He's going to start doing interviews with harder interviewers and different formats. That's not because he can't handle it now it's that he knows a few bad sound bytes can kill him. He is being very strategic and setting up to peak at the right time and that time is certainly not now.

That's all frustrating to most people watching all of this because they want to act like we are in the heat of the primaries but we just aren't. We are still in the opening battles and still a couple months from even the first debate.
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Don't forget Trump has the media 100% on his side. They want him as the nominee because it means ratings, and it means the Democrats will sweep the general election.

Hell, Fox's latest headline is that the voters have spoken, Trump is the nominee.

I guess I miss when everyone got to actually vote.
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It'd be nice to see movement towards DeSantis nationally, but the only thing that matters is Iowa and New Hampshire, especially with them being so early. That should clearly weed out the pretenders and give him a bump nationally. By that time, we should people coalesce around DeSantis by SC, NV, and Super Tuesday.
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PRUNVIN WARRIER


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Im Gipper said:

PRUNVIN WARRIER


To be fair, being unquestionably more unwelcoming to illegal immigrants plays a part in that. More deportations tends to just mean you caught more of a large influx.
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There are only two things larger than his ego:

1. BHOs ego
2. The list of promises/things he did not accomplish the first time around
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Ttere certainly was not a decrease in numbers that matched with the number of deportations.

The #1 reason is non-cooperation from states and local governments. Is that Trump's fault? Of course not!

But it's just one more example of the fallacy of this "prove warrior" line.

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Dude is an 80 year old, full of ****, carnival barker... how embarrassing that he's even a legitimate choice for "conservatives"
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Trump is the only person who could make people who claim to be conservatives suddenly think the Washington Post is a bastion of virtue and honest reporting.

Of course, right now all they're doing is running hit pieces on DeSantis which Cult45 eats up as 100% true.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:

Don't forget Trump has the media 100% on his side. They want him as the nominee because it means ratings, and it means the Democrats will sweep the general election.

Hell, Fox's latest headline is that the voters have spoken, Trump is the nominee.

I guess I miss when everyone got to actually vote.
Fox News is an enemy of the people and should be treated as such.
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Yeah, I notice he's lost his "fake news" shtick with most all of the MSM.... and the people that used to eat that **** up, now pretend it never happened.
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Ugh.

Wish Trump would just go away.

But I also hate using lawfare to eliminate political opposition.

And anyone who supports that, is a traitor to their country.
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I completely agree with every word of that.
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Old May Banker said:

I completely agree with every word of that.
That is the reason why the Dems thinking to keep indicting him to boost him in the primaries are just short term thinkers.

That crap will come back.
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