WHEN DO THE GUNS START MAKING US SAFER? Texas keeps weakening its gun laws and selling a record number of guns; meanwhile, the state’s gun homicide rate has increased 90% since 2011.

Shouldn’t Texas be one of the safest states in the nation? Or at least getting safer? pic.twitter.com/T6ZbsqouSq

— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) May 7, 2023

I guess the record number of gun sales and ever loosening of Texas gun laws is unrelated with this fact.


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Guess so. What's your point?

AggieCo2023 said:

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WHEN DO THE GUNS START MAKING US SAFER? Texas keeps weakening its gun laws and selling a record number of guns; meanwhile, the state’s gun homicide rate has increased 90% since 2011.

Shouldn’t Texas be one of the safest states in the nation? Or at least getting safer? pic.twitter.com/T6ZbsqouSq

— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) May 7, 2023

I guess the record number of gun sales and ever loosening of Texas gun laws is unrelated with this fact.

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Now overlay a chart of illegal immigration and let's see if correlation equals causation

And subtract out suicide deaths

AggieCo2023 said:

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WHEN DO THE GUNS START MAKING US SAFER? Texas keeps weakening its gun laws and selling a record number of guns; meanwhile, the state’s gun homicide rate has increased 90% since 2011.

Shouldn’t Texas be one of the safest states in the nation? Or at least getting safer? pic.twitter.com/T6ZbsqouSq

— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) May 7, 2023

I guess the record number of gun sales and ever loosening of Texas gun laws is unrelated with this fact.

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Woman that tweeted that is dumb. Graph is for "gun deaths", not specifically "homicides". The graph also does not show a 90% increase and only goes back 9 years… Think we're gonna need to see some better sources.

My guns have never killed anyone. I must me lucky…

NOT!

People kill people, not guns. Try again OP.

AggieCo2023 said:

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I guess the record number of gun sales and ever loosening of Texas gun laws is unrelated with this fact.

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Democrats killing people and then using dead bodies to score political points.
Worked really well for Beto

Shannon Watts is a deranged lunatic with the IQ of a turnip.

This is one of her unhinged, uninformed rants. She thinks it is an "assault rifle."

You can buy this at @SportsmansWH if you’re 18. Tell them #NoGunUntil21 pic.twitter.com/85o34rbbD5

— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) March 2, 2018

No surprise the OP loves her.

AggieCo2023 said:

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WHEN DO THE GUNS START MAKING US SAFER? Texas keeps weakening its gun laws and selling a record number of guns; meanwhile, the state’s gun homicide rate has increased 90% since 2011.

Shouldn’t Texas be one of the safest states in the nation? Or at least getting safer? pic.twitter.com/T6ZbsqouSq

— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) May 7, 2023

I guess the record number of gun sales and ever loosening of Texas gun laws is unrelated with this fact.

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Which gun laws were loosened that attributed to this rise in deaths? Please be specific and provide some evidence.

Aggie_Boomin 21 said:

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AggieCo2023 said:

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WHEN DO THE GUNS START MAKING US SAFER? Texas keeps weakening its gun laws and selling a record number of guns; meanwhile, the state’s gun homicide rate has increased 90% since 2011.

Shouldn’t Texas be one of the safest states in the nation? Or at least getting safer? pic.twitter.com/T6ZbsqouSq

— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) May 7, 2023

I guess the record number of gun sales and ever loosening of Texas gun laws is unrelated with this fact.

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Woman that tweeted that is dumb. Graph is for "gun deaths", not specifically "homicides". The graph also does not show a 90% increase and only goes back 9 years… Think we're gonna need to see some better sources.

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I mean, do we expect the graph to go down?
Just because dead people vote, doesn't make them alive.

AggieCo2023 said:

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I guess the record number of gun sales and ever loosening of Texas gun laws is unrelated with this fact.

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What gun laws that have been "loosened" in Texas over the last 11 years do you believe have led to more gun deaths?

"OpEn CaRrY"

OP probably

i dare anyone to pull up population numbers and see if that chart looks similar.

Now compare the number of felons released by Soros purchased DAs in Texas.

The data is bogus. While the number of murders rose in Texas from 2011 to 2017 (most recent I could easily find), it started to decrease in the last year. It was roughly 1100 in 2011 and about 1400 in 2017, and not all of those were firearm related, though roughly 3/4 on average are. Thus, in 2017, about 1050 murders were firearms related homicides.

The data listed is including suicides, mostly, and is trying to use those increased numbers to make a point that mostly isn't true. It may be a tragedy that more people are killing themselves, but we aren't less safe because of it. Additionally, a significant number of murders (42%) are committed by someone the victim knows -- either family or an acquaintance. Thus, of that number above, we're talking about 600 murders statewide in Texas that year by someone the victim doesn't know.

Data source: https://www.dps.texas.gov/sites/default/files/documents/crimereports/17/citch3.pdf

Yeah that's a good point. It's not even presented on a deaths/year count.

AggieCo2023 said:

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I guess the record number of gun sales and ever loosening of Texas gun laws is unrelated with this fact.

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AggieCo2023 said:

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WHEN DO THE GUNS START MAKING US SAFER? Texas keeps weakening its gun laws and selling a record number of guns; meanwhile, the state’s gun homicide rate has increased 90% since 2011.

Shouldn’t Texas be one of the safest states in the nation? Or at least getting safer? pic.twitter.com/T6ZbsqouSq

— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) May 7, 2023

I guess the record number of gun sales and ever loosening of Texas gun laws is unrelated with this fact.

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I guess it has to do with the fact that Texas is turning blue, according to you.

91AggieLawyer said:

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The data is bogus. While the number of murders rose in Texas from 2011 to 2017 (most recent I could easily find), it started to decrease in the last year. It was roughly 1100 in 2011 and about 1400 in 2017, and not all of those were firearm related, though roughly 3/4 on average are. Thus, in 2017, about 1050 murders were firearms related homicides.

The data listed is including suicides, mostly, and is trying to use those increased numbers to make a point that mostly isn't true. It may be a tragedy that more people are killing themselves, but we aren't less safe because of it. Additionally, a significant number of murders (42%) are committed by someone the victim knows -- either family or an acquaintance. Thus, of that number above, we're talking about 600 murders statewide in Texas that year by someone the victim doesn't know.

Data source: https://www.dps.texas.gov/sites/default/files/documents/crimereports/17/citch3.pdf

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Exactly. Watts is a known liar when it comes to anything about guns.

This thread is obviously trolling.

What percentage of those gun deaths are in Democrat strongholds? The answer to that question will likely tell you that it's a cultural problem and not a gun problem.

OP votes for safe slavery rather than risky freedom.

It's hard to have a lot in common with people with that mentality.

AggieCo2023 said:

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WHEN DO THE GUNS START MAKING US SAFER? Texas keeps weakening its gun laws and selling a record number of guns; meanwhile, the state’s gun homicide rate has increased 90% since 2011.

Shouldn’t Texas be one of the safest states in the nation? Or at least getting safer? pic.twitter.com/T6ZbsqouSq

— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) May 7, 2023

I guess the record number of gun sales and ever loosening of Texas gun laws is unrelated with this fact.

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You're right. I'd move and never come back if I were you. Chicago and San Francisco are perfect for you.

OP had the thread ready to go

Couldn't use it when a democrat trans killed christian kids
Couldn't use it when a "gun control" democrat killed innocent people and a cop at a bank
Illegal alien let in by democrats shoots other illegal aliens (let in by democrats) and an American citizen
Can't use it every weekend when democrats thugs shoot dozens of other democrats thugs in every blue city

No name out yet?
OP saw his chance.

Pretty pathetic, like most gun control losers

Okay. Guns are still not the problem, OP.

Guns have always been here. They are a constant. What are the variables that have changed to make this an issue?

And so are traffic fatalities and traffic deaths due to texting and cell phone use.

More population, more immigration, continued collapse of culture, etc. Of course they will tie it to more guns…

Guns are not the problem. Our population has increased, we have let way too much riff-raff come into Texas, both from across the southern border and from other states, we don't punish criminals swiftly or near harshly enough, etc.

Too many enemies? BWWWAAAHHHHH

aggielostinETX said:

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Too many enemies? BWWWAAAHHHHH

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I'm going to teach my wife and daughter to defend themselves with firearms, but I won't train them to use what is arguably the best choice for home defense, by far, because, they are big and bad.
And black.

AggieCo2023 said:

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WHEN DO THE GUNS START MAKING US SAFER? Texas keeps weakening its gun laws and selling a record number of guns; meanwhile, the state’s gun homicide rate has increased 90% since 2011.

Shouldn’t Texas be one of the safest states in the nation? Or at least getting safer? pic.twitter.com/T6ZbsqouSq

— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) May 7, 2023

I guess the record number of gun sales and ever loosening of Texas gun laws is unrelated with this fact.

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And I am sure the graph includes justifiable gun deaths in like people actually defending themselves.

APHIS AG said:

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AggieCo2023 said:

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WHEN DO THE GUNS START MAKING US SAFER? Texas keeps weakening its gun laws and selling a record number of guns; meanwhile, the state’s gun homicide rate has increased 90% since 2011.

Shouldn’t Texas be one of the safest states in the nation? Or at least getting safer? pic.twitter.com/T6ZbsqouSq

— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) May 7, 2023

I guess the record number of gun sales and ever loosening of Texas gun laws is unrelated with this fact.

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And I am sure the graph includes justifiable gun deaths in like people actually defending themselves.

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Guarantee it includes gangsters shooting each other in lawless democrat cities, and folks offing themselves because they are living in fear from Covid, and because of gender dysphoria.

Stop letting gang members and cartel members cross the border.

Stop refusing to prosecute violent offenders and letting them out on cashless bail.

You can't refuse toaintain law amd order and then act completely shocked when violence increases.

Do these two things and you will discover gun violence goes waaaaay down.

O mention of population growth. No mention of illegal immigration. No mention of Democrats defunding police and Soros backed DAs letting criminals remain on the streets. OP is a liar and a fraud. At least make an intelligent argument.

AggieCo2023 said:

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WHEN DO THE GUNS START MAKING US SAFER? Texas keeps weakening its gun laws and selling a record number of guns; meanwhile, the state’s gun homicide rate has increased 90% since 2011.

Shouldn’t Texas be one of the safest states in the nation? Or at least getting safer? pic.twitter.com/T6ZbsqouSq

— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) May 7, 2023

I guess the record number of gun sales and ever loosening of Texas gun laws is unrelated with this fact.

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Now overlay these two graphs:






See the problem?

Edited to attempt to get first graph to show... can't get it to work.
Here is the link to it: Kids In Space | Jonathan Haidt