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TxAgswin said:

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Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?

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Any chance she's referring to the loss of Tucker's voice to millions being bad for the 1st? I doubt she's speaking to protection for his job, Lol. I don't know the context, but the targeted quote and conclusion jumping get annoying. At least put some level of thought before flailing the arms.

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Get outta here with that sound logic ! There is no place for that on this board.

There's no masterful hidden meaning to her comments around this; she's just throwing buzz words out there for attention

The First Amendment is gone.

The unholy union of government and big tech created censorship which destroyed free speech.

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson and editors not allowing negative democrat news stories because it would reveal the truth means there is no longer a free…

— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@RepMTG) April 26, 2023

She is the AOC of the right. Only difference is that most on the left supports AOC's antics, while there are many on the right who regularly call MTG out for her BS.

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There's no masterful hidden meaning to her comments around this; she's just throwing buzz words out there for attention

The First Amendment is gone.

The unholy union of government and big tech created censorship which destroyed free speech.

Fox News firing Tucker Carlson and editors not allowing negative democrat news stories because it would reveal the truth means there is no longer a free…

— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@RepMTG) April 26, 2023

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She's really taking this "AOC of the far right" thing to another level.

CoppellAg93 said:

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magnumtmp said:

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TxAgswin said:

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Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?

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Any chance she's referring to the loss of Tucker's voice to millions being bad for the 1st? I doubt she's speaking to protection for his job, Lol. I don't know the context, but the targeted quote and conclusion jumping get annoying. At least put some level of thought before flailing the arms.

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Get outta here with that sound logic ! There is no place for that on this board.

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Yes. That's exactly what she is saying.

She's not "referring" to it. She literally said "it is devastating to our First Amendment".

That is objectively false. It has nothing to do with the First Amendment.

There is no "sound logic" to the other side of the argument on this.

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Are you going to admit that Twitter WAS violating people's First Amendment rights until Elon Musk bought it?

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You realize Twitter has not stopped this even after Musk, right?

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Proof?

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Are you going to admit that Twitter WAS violating people's First Amendment rights until Elon Musk bought it?

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You realize Twitter has not stopped this even after Musk, right?

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There is evidence of the government telling Elon who to ban and then doing it? Or just Elon banning people he doesn't want on there anymore?

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Are you going to admit that Twitter WAS violating people's First Amendment rights until Elon Musk bought it?

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You realize Twitter has not stopped this even after Musk, right?

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I am only pointing out that a private company has been violating the first amendment at the behest of an authoritarian government. A government that some of these people voted for.

Libs: Trump pointing out lies in the media and talking tough to them is an attack on the first amendment and threatens democracy

Also libs: AOC and Schumer calling for outright censorship of Carlson is protecting democracy

Also libs: we need a ministry of truth to fight misinformation

Sinus twitter still violating the 1st amendment?

If a private business takes an action at the request of or under intimidation by government, under certain conditions the argument can be made it is merely a proxy for government and thinly veiling government action under a veneer of private action.

I'm not sure how that could apply in this case but the government/big tech collusion is very well documented now and it arguably is tech acting as proxy for government to silence or suppress speech in some cases. Is someone alleging that government officials or regulators leaned on Fox management?

TxAgswin said:

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Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?

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Pelosi and Democrats did when she forced them to actually show up in vote in person for two years....lol such a burden.

She also slowed down the legislative process quite a bit. I would vote for her over any democrat but that is not saying much I know.

Carl Tuckerson was fired because he has grown bigger than Fox. Future results will exhibit as much.

TXAggie2011 said:

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safelightKL said:

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TxAgswin said:

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Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?

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It reminds me of all the numbnuts who cry that "school prayer" or posting the 10 commandments somehow violates the First Amendment. Can't they read? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a religion..." When you ask, they rarely even know that each of the original 13 colonies had official religions.

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So, we have this thing called the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court says the current law of the land is that posting the 10 Commandments in a public school violates the First Amendment. If you disagree with that understanding of the 1st Amendment, fine, make the case. But I wouldn't call someone a "numbut" if they told you that's the law. I would call them "correct" or "right."

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I suppose when the Supreme Court ruled in Plessy v. Ferguson (separate but equal) or Dred Scott (slavery was protected) or Koramatsu (you can put Japanese in intern camps), you would have said "those guys are correct and right" because ... dude they are the SUPREME COURT. Great reasoning. I call them "numbnuts" because they had no solid Constitutional foundations for those decisions.

TxAgswin said:

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TxAgswin said:

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Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?

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It reminds me of all the numbnuts who cry that "school prayer" or posting the 10 commandments somehow violates the First Amendment. Can't they read? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a religion..." When you ask, they rarely even know that each of the original 13 colonies had official religions.

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We are talking about a Congresswoman stating that FoxNews firing Tucker Carlson is a threat to the First Amendment.

It doesn't matter what it "reminds" you of.

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Sure, it helps establish how dumb Green is when you can compare her Constitutionally illiterate arguments with other people who are similarly Constitutionally illiterate. We had people thinking abortion was some right protected by the Constitution for years and years because of Constitutionally illiteracy. All those idiots remind me of this Marjorie Greene person.

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TxAgswin said:

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I did put some level of thought into it. It doesn't require much. There's no way to be on the other side of this...

The First Amendment reads:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

If it read "Fox News shall make no business decisions that upset conservatives" then it would be a Constitutional issue.

That's not how it reads.

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Are you going to admit that Twitter WAS violating people's First Amendment rights until Elon Musk bought it?

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I think would could argue that twitter has become the de facto town square.

I'm more concerned with twitter possibly violating free speech (as they were against conservative voices) than I am Fox News, or CNN, etc.

Literally anyone on earth (sans probably the Norks can access Twitter and state their mind). Mainstream media is always going to be heavily skewed one away or the other. Twitter is akin to public access TV more than anything else.

TxAgswin said:

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Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?

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And yet she knows more about the Constitution and first amendment than any Democrat. Let that sink in.

My take away from this thread: there's a whole lot of lefties visiting F16 but for some reason avoid ~95% of the threads…

Tucker has the right to say anything he wants. This is the 1st Amendment.

His employer has the right to terminate his contract. This is business.

Get Off My Lawn said:

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My take away from this thread: there's a whole lot of lefties visiting F16 but for some reason avoid ~95% of the threads…

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If it's not arbitrary in nature or an opportunity to bash Trump, they typically avoid the subject at hand. They can't win policy debates.

Their choice in targets is hilarious as well.
MTG, as a junior member of the minority party, single handedly gummed up the Dem legislative agenda.

This pile-on reminds me of how they ridiculed W for being stupid. Their media selects flattering sound bites of Dems and out of context / unflattering sound bites of Reps. But if you compare like-for-like without a teleprompter, W is hands down the better speaker. But MSM consumers would never know…. Same deal here: MTG is one of the better members of congress.

TxAgswin said:

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Fox News firing Tucker Carlson is "devastating to our First Amendment" according to Greene.

She does know that Fox News is in the private sector and his employment is not protected under the First Amendment, right?

Does she know that? Does she?

Does anyone take her seriously?

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All mainstream news media is controlled by the federal government and deployed as propaganda against the people. It's absolutely a First Amendment issue. But I'm sure you would rather persist in your delusion.