Passed the Senate but will the House kill it? Hadn't heard anything about it till I saw Twitter Libs screeching. Here is one such screecher.

Read more: https://t.co/LVbbYinYim

— Sawyer Hackett (@SawyerHackett) April 21, 2023

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Passed the Senate but will the House kill it? Hadn't heard anything about it till I saw Twitter Libs screeching. Here is one such screecher.

Read more: https://t.co/LVbbYinYim

— Sawyer Hackett (@SawyerHackett) April 21, 2023

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Excellent. Basic catechesis should be an ordinary part of every child's formation.

From a post in the Gay Dinosaur thread...

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I don't think there's any age where it's inappropriate or kids are not mature enough to acknowledge that not everyone is the same, and some family relationships look different than yours. A Dino show with gay people as an irrelevant and ignored plot point is not a big deal.

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Let't see if the same logic can be applied here.

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I don't think there's any age where it's inappropriate or kids are not mature enough to acknowledge that not everyone is the same, and some family relationships look different than yours. A CLASSROOM with THE 10 COMMANDMENTS as an irrelevant and ignored DECORATION is not a big deal.

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From a post in the Gay Dinosaur thread...

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I don't think there's any age where it's inappropriate or kids are not mature enough to acknowledge that not everyone is the same, and some family relationships look different than yours. A Dino show with gay people as an irrelevant and ignored plot point is not a big deal.

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Let't see if the same logic can be applied here.

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I don't think there's any age where it's inappropriate or kids are not mature enough to acknowledge that not everyone is the same, and some family relationships look different than yours. A CLASSROOM with THE 10 COMMANDMENTS as an irrelevant and ignored DECORATION is not a big deal.

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It's not a big deal but it's not constitutional either. Sorry, the government doesn't get to promote one religion over another one. This one will be slapped down relatively shortly.

You are wrong there. It is a very big deal. It will not pass, but make no mistake, the atheist would never tolerate it in schools, but are fine with Trans story hour in drag.

Next Muslims will want call to prayer in schools. What are we going to tell them? Sorry bro, just Christians. Yeah right.

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You are wrong there. It is a very big deal. It will not pass, but make no mistake, the atheist would never tolerate it in schools, but are fine with Trans story hour in drag.

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This why America is in crazy town right now. I have to take sides between Government requiring Christian ideology being displayed prominently to school children or I have to support men dressing up like women reading to kids. We aren't a serious country if this is what we're fighting about.

People complain about MTGs antics in DC and then we have this nonsense.

Why not just adapt the 10 commandments into a code of conduct and avoid all the back and forth about religion in schools and such.

Rs pushing this **** is how we actually wind up with drag queen story hour, not how we prevent it.

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Next Muslims will want call to prayer in schools. What are we going to tell them? Sorry bro, just Christians. Yeah right.

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Is Mosaic law uniquely Christian now? When did that happen?

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We aren't a serious country if this is what we're fighting about.

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Frankly, we haven't been a "serious country" for awhile now. Call me CM or Libtard, whatever; the very fact that everything is a fight is what makes us weaker.

I don't like this, and I don't think most people like this. Can we not just have a focus on education instead of ideological indoctrination? I don't want the 10 Commandments placed in classrooms anymore than I want the damn "pride progress" flag or a BLM sign hung up.

I want our kids to just get a good education.

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People complain about MTGs antics in DC and then we have this nonsense.

Why not just adapt the 10 commandments into a code of conduct and avoid all the back and forth about religion in schools and such.

Rs pushing this **** is how we actually wind up with drag queen story hour, not how we prevent it.

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Ding ding ding.

The leftist degeneracy is a response to aggressive pushes of Christianity, even when it's no longer nearly as prominent as it once was. This will only drive backlash during the weakest point in the United States's religious affiliation.

No, it isn't.

Gay marriage and trans bathrooms were done with no push for anything from the right. The left are degenerates who want to mandate their opinions and force their beliefs on everyone.

Lipstick on a pig. Homeschool your kids.

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No, it isn't.

Gay marriage and trans bathrooms were done with no push for anything from the right. The left are degenerates who want to mandate their opinions and force their beliefs on everyone.

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If you talk to these people, then you will 1000% hear their qualms about religion.

It is rooted in a backlash.

Religion has been such a huge part of the history of humanity that it's really dumb to leave learning about it out of education. I support the idea of classes in high school teaching the history, diversity, and impact of religion. Including the Ten Commandments as part of a section on Christianity would be obvious. Having periods set aside for prayer, or study, or however kids wanted to use the time sounds fine as long as no one is expected or pressured to join in. The only way to do that successfully is for any religious expressions or prayer to be internalized. Kids want to 'belong', and any organized vocal or visual religious expressions, especially if led by or put up by figures of authority, would make some kids feel pressured to join in when they don't really want to. It needs to be remembered that the free exercise of religion includes freedom from religion.

We need to remember that we have this document called the Constitution that precludes the Federal government from establishment of a preferred religion. Any religion, while at the same time providing for the free exercise of any religious beliefs of choice. The 1st Amendment is clear on that and the 14th Amendment extends that to State governments as well.

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No, it isn't.

Gay marriage and trans bathrooms were done with no push for anything from the right. The left are degenerates who want to mandate their opinions and force their beliefs on everyone.

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Re-read your post and then realize that you're doing the same thing. We all have things we disagree with but part of the greatness of this Country is we don't (or aren't supposed to) try to force everyone to think and act alike.

It is crazy town.

That's why we need to embrace liberty more.

Reality is that democrats complain about religious indoctrination without acknowledging there is just as much potential of brainwashing with government schools.

Government schools, by nature, will always be political. The answer is reduce government involvement in schools as much as possible.

Drag time in elementary school should be welcomed

Who determines the difference between right & wrong? How is your moral compass set? What guides your conscience? Who sets the norms & expectations for a society?

This country was founded on Judeo Christian principles. Like it or not, The Ten Commandments created the values which allow a civilized society to exist.

No God, no Ten Commandments = no structure, chaotic society. Sound familiar?

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No, it isn't.

Gay marriage and trans bathrooms were done with no push for anything from the right. The left are degenerates who want to mandate their opinions and force their beliefs on everyone.

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If you talk to these people, then you will 1000% hear their qualms about religion.

It is rooted in a backlash.

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It's rooted in a backlash to an imaginary straw man universe where somehow America is a backwards, intolerant, oppressive caricature of what the left imagines 1950's culture was like.

No rational, level headed person could possibly believe that a culture that celebrates people via mass media (movies, TV, advertisements, social media and increasingly government) 24/7 whose only accomplishment is to declare (without any evidence whatsoever to support this claim) that they believe they were "born in the wrong body" is intolerant of that particular perspective.

There has never been, in the history of the human species, a better time to be alive if you are "trans", and no better country to be alive in than America. And there is no close 2nd.

That said, this legislation is massively unconstitutional (to say nothing of it also being galacticly stupid) on its face and it will be slapped down in short order as it should be. If you want to post something in schools that sends a message, require the posting of the bill of rights with a highlighted 10th amendment.

I recall a time when students in public schools would say a prayer before lunch. High schools had Fellowship of Christian Athletes where students did great service activities in and out of school while talking about Jesus. In that time, teaching was view as a valuable profession and there was a great bond between the schools and the community.
Now, you take God out of schools and you have the whole public school system turning to trash.

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You are wrong there. It is a very big deal. It will not pass, but make no mistake, the atheist would never tolerate it in schools, but are fine with Trans story hour in drag.

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This why America is in crazy town right now. I have to take sides between Government requiring Christian ideology being displayed prominently to school children or I have to support men dressing up like women reading to kids. We aren't a serious country if this is what we're fighting about.

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No you don't. You can be against both ver easily. Just put pressure where it's appropriate instead of just *****ing and moaning.

FCA is still alive and well in schools.

Interesting that they aren't forcing a certain enumeration of them to avoid the Catholic/Protestant controversy there. I don't care about what decorations are in classrooms. It's either a part of the curriculum of it's a bumper sticker.

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Waffledynamics said:

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No, it isn't.

Gay marriage and trans bathrooms were done with no push for anything from the right. The left are degenerates who want to mandate their opinions and force their beliefs on everyone.

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If you talk to these people, then you will 1000% hear their qualms about religion.

It is rooted in a backlash.

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It's rooted in a backlash to an imaginary straw man universe where somehow America is a backwards, intolerant, oppressive caricature of what the left imagines 1950's culture was like.

No rational, level headed person could possibly believe that a culture that celebrates people via mass media (movies, TV, advertisements, social media and increasingly government) 24/7 whose only accomplishment is to declare (without any evidence whatsoever to support this claim) that they believe they were "born in the wrong body" is intolerant of that particular perspective.

There has never been, in the history of the human species, a better time to be alive if you are "trans", and no better country to be alive in than America. And there is no close 2nd.

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Preach!

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That said, this legislation is massively unconstitutional (to say nothing of it also being galacticly stupid) on its face and it will be slapped down in short order as it should be. If you want to post something in schools that sends a message, require the posting of the bill of rights with a highlighted 10th amendment.

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Less on point.
First off is the constitutionality deal. The common acceptance that everything state must be secular isn't how the constitution was written nor interpreted in the youth of our country. Now - I would agree that it is kinda stupid to force demons to lead prayer time and trust communists to display the 10 commandments - but 70 years ago and before it would've been a non-issue.

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You are wrong there. It is a very big deal. It will not pass, but make no mistake, the atheist would never tolerate it in schools, but are fine with Trans story hour in drag.

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This why America is in crazy town right now. I have to take sides between Government requiring Christian ideology being displayed prominently to school children or I have to support men dressing up like women reading to kids. We aren't a serious country if this is what we're fighting about.

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Honest question, Do you have kids?

As a devout Christian I can honestly say this is wrong and will have unintended consequences.

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I recall a time when students in public schools would say a prayer before lunch. High schools had Fellowship of Christian Athletes where students did great service activities in and out of school while talking about Jesus. In that time, teaching was view as a valuable profession and there was a great bond between the schools and the community.
Now, you take God out of schools and you have the whole public school system turning to trash.

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I was in FCA. I quit when they low key said Catholics were going to hell.

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As a devout Christian I can honestly say this is wrong and will have unintended consequences.

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Like what?

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No, it isn't.

Gay marriage and trans bathrooms were done with no push for anything from the right. The left are degenerates who want to mandate their opinions and force their beliefs on everyone.

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If you talk to these people, then you will 1000% hear their qualms about religion.

It is rooted in a backlash.

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It's rooted in a backlash to an imaginary straw man universe where somehow America is a backwards, intolerant, oppressive caricature of what the left imagines 1950's culture was like.

No rational, level headed person could possibly believe that a culture that celebrates people via mass media (movies, TV, advertisements, social media and increasingly government) 24/7 whose only accomplishment is to declare (without any evidence whatsoever to support this claim) that they believe they were "born in the wrong body" is intolerant of that particular perspective.

There has never been, in the history of the human species, a better time to be alive if you are "trans", and no better country to be alive in than America. And there is no close 2nd.

That said, this legislation is massively unconstitutional (to say nothing of it also being galacticly stupid) on its face and it will be slapped down in short order as it should be. If you want to post something in schools that sends a message, require the posting of the bill of rights with a highlighted 10th amendment.

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Admiral Adama said:

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We aren't a serious country if this is what we're fighting about.

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Frankly, we haven't been a "serious country" for awhile now. Call me CM or Libtard, whatever; the very fact that everything is a fight is what makes us weaker.

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Everything being a fight is what politicians think Americans want because of the feedback they get, primarily from Twitter and any other place they can get immediate affirmation.

They're not there to govern for the people anymore; they're just there for the likes.

This is the natural progression of a solid red or solid blue state. Without the party having balanced power, you get people trying to out-red or out-blue each other.

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From a post in the Gay Dinosaur thread...

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I don't think there's any age where it's inappropriate or kids are not mature enough to acknowledge that not everyone is the same, and some family relationships look different than yours. A Dino show with gay people as an irrelevant and ignored plot point is not a big deal.

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Let't see if the same logic can be applied here.

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I don't think there's any age where it's inappropriate or kids are not mature enough to acknowledge that not everyone is the same, and some family relationships look different than yours. A CLASSROOM with THE 10 COMMANDMENTS as an irrelevant and ignored DECORATION is not a big deal.

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It's not a big deal but it's not constitutional either. Sorry, the government doesn't get to promote one religion over another one. This one will be slapped down relatively shortly.

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Your interpretation is not the original interpretation of the Constitution. All states were Christian at the founding, and many had an official christian denomination at the time of the founding. The federal government was not to have an established official denomination so as not to favor certain states/regions over another, but there was not a prohibition on the states doing what they pleased in this regard .

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From a post in the Gay Dinosaur thread...

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I don't think there's any age where it's inappropriate or kids are not mature enough to acknowledge that not everyone is the same, and some family relationships look different than yours. A Dino show with gay people as an irrelevant and ignored plot point is not a big deal.

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Let't see if the same logic can be applied here.

Updated for this thread below...

I don't think there's any age where it's inappropriate or kids are not mature enough to acknowledge that not everyone is the same, and some family relationships look different than yours. A CLASSROOM with THE 10 COMMANDMENTS as an irrelevant and ignored DECORATION is not a big deal.

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It's not a big deal but it's not constitutional either. Sorry, the government doesn't get to promote one religion over another one. This one will be slapped down relatively shortly.

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Your interpretation is not the original interpretation of the Constitution. All states were Christian at the founding, and many had an official christian denomination at the time of the founding. The federal government was not to have an established official denomination so as not to favor certain states/regions over another, but there was not a prohibition on the states doing what they pleased in this regard .

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In my life, I have never heard this. I have nothing to refute it with, but Texas has never been anything but a conservative Christian state. I have a hard time believing they would have just given that up if were there to begin with.