The Fed will be thrilled with this sort of thing as it fights inflation---BIDEN TO PROPOSE 5.2% FEDERAL PAY INCREASE: WASHINGTON POST
— James DePorre (@RevShark) March 8, 2023
Biden to propose 5% federal pay increase
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I'm all for it if they do about a 50% cut in headcount.
Give them each a $1MM raise. I mean they can do whatever they want anyways. They may as well continue the trend.
Rapid boil go!
Rapid boil go!
Really hate this administration.
That's basically bribe money, gotta keep their loyalists on the reservation up there.
That's basically bribe money, gotta keep their loyalists on the reservation up there.
I'm fine with him giving a 5% raise, if he cuts 10% of the federal work force.
10%?
Minimum is 50% needing cut, and in reality, probably could get away with 90%.
Minimum is 50% needing cut, and in reality, probably could get away with 90%.
Spread them out across the country. Scatter the agencies.
The head count will take care of itself.
The head count will take care of itself.
I agree. But if 10% cut is dead on arrival, 50% would get laughed out of the room. I'd love to just start working in the right direction.CDUB98 said:
10%?
Minimum is 50% needing cut, and in reality, probably could get away with 90%.
We need to start demanding trade offs.
FJB
So we agree on the problem...DallasAg 94 said:
You people are hysterical.
When has the Fed ever cut jobs.
You can only hope they cut the rate of growth.
WHERE IS MY 5% PAY RAISE?
All govt employees should be paid $15/hr
Minimum wage for minimum work
Minimum wage for minimum work
Tell that to your buddy General Eric Smith
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Feds made like 3% in raises total between 2010 and 2020. Fed compensation in many geographic areas significantly lags behind private sector comp, and is creating some serious recruitment issues.
Further, fed raises since 2020 have significantly lagged inflation. It's not a gravy train like many make it out to be.
Further, fed raises since 2020 have significantly lagged inflation. It's not a gravy train like many make it out to be.
And yet they are fine cutting physician pay 2 years in row...(while we have never had inflationary adjustments for over 20 years).
So KJP will make 5% more to utter non-factual nonsensical spin? seems appropriate...
This administration continues to fracture this country. How is this NOT a foreign intelligence mission to destabilize the US?
WORST . PRESIDENT (administration). EVER.
So KJP will make 5% more to utter non-factual nonsensical spin? seems appropriate...
This administration continues to fracture this country. How is this NOT a foreign intelligence mission to destabilize the US?
WORST . PRESIDENT (administration). EVER.
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Beerosch said:
I'm all for it if they do about a 50% cut in headcount.
Ever notice that the government NEVER has layoffs?
It only ever expands. It's like an organism, or a cult. It serves its own interest, which is to grow. It does the bare minimum to serve the people but goes to extremes to serve itself.
bmks270 said:Beerosch said:
I'm all for it if they do about a 50% cut in headcount.
Ever notice that the government NEVER has layoffs?
It only ever expands. It's like an organism, or a cult. It serves its own interest, which is to grow. It does the bare minimum to serve the people but goes to extremes to serve itself.
The Army is literally conducting civilian layoffs now and over the next few years. So much ignorance in this thread.
I do not think is is a gravy train, but it is pretty much a guaranteed job for life. Recession proof, merger and acquisition proof, and other guarantees that the private sector does not enjoy. Trade offs are to be expectedaunuwyn08 said:
Feds made like 3% in raises total between 2010 and 2020. Fed compensation in many geographic areas significantly lags behind private sector comp, and is creating some serious recruitment issues.
Further, fed raises since 2020 have significantly lagged inflation. It's not a gravy train like many make it out to be.
We can agree that many federal positions are over compensated or benefitted compared to the private sector, but the only tech workers and engineers I can get in my hiring pools are woefully unqualified kids who picked up a certificate while driving Uber Eats.
That's all comp driven. Good applicants ghost me after they get their formal offer letters.
That's all comp driven. Good applicants ghost me after they get their formal offer letters.
Won't this feed more inflation?
No.AgGrad99 said:
I'm fine with him giving a 5% raise, if he cuts 10% of the federal work force.
The Collective said:
Won't this feed more inflation?
That's the goal.
Of course it will. They're not trying to do what is good for America. They are buying votes and destroying the middle class.The Collective said:
Won't this feed more inflation?
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if this was based on performance i would suggest they deserve a pay cut not raise.
Shutdowns and Federal Employees' Pay
The biggest change comes from the Government Employee Fair Treatment Act, under which all federal employees are considered in "pay status" during the shutdown, even those non-essential workers who have previously been furloughed
The rub is that these employees will not receive paychecks while their agencies are closed, but the law guarantees that they will receive back pay for the workdays during the shutdown, including benefits, accrual of leave, bonuses, and all other compensation they would normally receive when the government reopens.
The biggest change comes from the Government Employee Fair Treatment Act, under which all federal employees are considered in "pay status" during the shutdown, even those non-essential workers who have previously been furloughed
The rub is that these employees will not receive paychecks while their agencies are closed, but the law guarantees that they will receive back pay for the workdays during the shutdown, including benefits, accrual of leave, bonuses, and all other compensation they would normally receive when the government reopens.
This is a perfect example of something being too big and rigid… the government. A smaller more agile government would be able to understand that certain position do not fall correctly in their GS pay scale.aunuwyn08 said:
We can agree that many federal positions are over compensated or benefitted compared to the private sector, but the only tech workers and engineers I can get in my hiring pools are woefully unqualified kids who picked up a certificate while driving Uber Eats.
That's all comp driven. Good applicants ghost me after they get their formal offer letters.
45-70Ag said:The Fed will be thrilled with this sort of thing as it fights inflation---BIDEN TO PROPOSE 5.2% FEDERAL PAY INCREASE: WASHINGTON POST
— James DePorre (@RevShark) March 8, 2023
Is this to include border patrol and ICE? Because from what I know, even entry level employees can make six figures their first year and they don't exactly have the stringest of requirements to be hired.
I ll be sure to tell my Air traffic controller co-workers that. When is your next flight?ABATTBQ87 said:
All govt employees should be paid $15/hr
Minimum wage for minimum work
Inflation Reduction Act, Part II
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2
Stop paying Biden then go from there
I would just settle for investigating his corrupt family at this point.
Oh, they have layoffs...it's just that they get rehired when the Republican led Budget stalemate is overridden...bmks270 said:Beerosch said:
I'm all for it if they do about a 50% cut in headcount.
Ever notice that the government NEVER has layoffs?
It only ever expands. It's like an organism, or a cult. It serves its own interest, which is to grow. It does the bare minimum to serve the people but goes to extremes to serve itself.
Us normies would call it a Furlough with Back-pay, but "Lay-offs" draws much more sympathetic reactions from MSM...
Don't disagree, and you're seeing more and more orgs seek special dispensation to develop their own pay systems. Hell, we're doing it now.
GS system needs to be blown up completely.
GS system needs to be blown up completely.
Gov Contractors do not get back pay... Critical positions keep working and do not get paid until the resolution is signed. Yes, MOST all non essential employees do get back pay. Every job has its benefits and there are many Gov workers that should be fired, but that is true in many professions.SeMgCo87 said:Oh, they have layoffs...it's just that they get rehired when the Republican led Budget stalemate is overridden...bmks270 said:Beerosch said:
I'm all for it if they do about a 50% cut in headcount.
Ever notice that the government NEVER has layoffs?
It only ever expands. It's like an organism, or a cult. It serves its own interest, which is to grow. It does the bare minimum to serve the people but goes to extremes to serve itself.
Us normies would call it a Furlough with Back-pay, but "Lay-offs" draws much more sympathetic reactions from MSM...
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