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Aggie95 said:

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I hope this administration labels this as a hate crime. The added charges will really send Mexico reeling!

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Name something these people had in common with Haitians

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A love of fried plantains and curry goat?

Hoyt Ag said:

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I must be insane. I have had 3 dental procedures and a shoulder worked on in Mexico. 0 issues. I miss few things about living near the border, but that was one of them. Cheap meds and procedures.

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About 20 years ago I was planning a road trip to Big Bend country and did a Google search for tourist things to do in Presidio / Ojinaga that weren't Copper Canyon. The first five hits were dentists across the river.

I'm now seeing headlines that two were found alive by Mexican authorities. I thought the cartel still had them.

torrid said:

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I'm now seeing headlines that two were found alive by Mexican authorities. I thought the cartel still had them.

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Wondering if the cops are looking into family and associates of these people back in Carolina.

RGLAG85 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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flakrat said:

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atmtws said:

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Diverting attention from the 1/6 video footage that was released to Tucker.

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And the latest Wuhan Lab Leak "leaks"

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The Mexican cartel is part of the Deep State??

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Dense you are.

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So the cartel joined the weekly Deep State zoom meetings to offer up their willingness to help distract the public?

Hoyt Ag said:

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I must be insane. I have had 3 dental procedures and a shoulder worked on in Mexico. 0 issues. I miss few things about living near the border, but that was one of them. Cheap meds and procedures.

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You should have added your face too.

One of my nieces (early 40's) often goes to "Old Mexico", rents a house (doesn't stay at a resort) & goes out to bars and "whoops" it up!
Her older brother, a county Sheriff in MN, constantly warns her to "watch out" cause she's "messing with "fate""!

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1. you have to be pretty insane to go for a non-lethal disease treatment in Mexico

2. you have to be pretty insane to be driving around Mexico with US license plates on your car

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People do this all the damn time without any consequences. White and Hispanic folks do this daily.

It's amazing how many of you keyboard warriors up in Frisco and Katy think you know about the border. It's not as bad as it once was when the cartel violence first broke out.

This specific situation seems to be a case of mistaken identity, which is why both governments got involved.

And if you think that the US and Mexican governments are fully aware AND allowing the cartels to operate as long as no one of consequence gets hurt, then you aren't as smart as you think you are.

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Yeah, maybe there isn't an all out turf war going on RIGHT NOW, but it's still really effing bad. You can live 100-200 miles from the border and know that. And almost all of us have friends and family living down there who give us the scoop. Hell it's pretty bad on this side. I know people who have had to hold gang bangers on their own land at gunpoint.

I think the keyboard warriors in/from the Valley are the funniest..."I go all the time, I'm not scared, y'all don't know what you're talking about, it's not that bad". You may feel fine cruising through Juarez or Piedras or Matamoros as someone who looks indistinguishable from most of the residents of those towns, but I can almost guarantee you'd feel like a fish out of water as a white or black person.

I don't live in the Valley.

I have white friends who go to Reynosa every damn day and manage to come back alive. They also aren't stupid enough to walk around looking like a tourista

Anyone seen any reports of the criminal history (or lack thereof) of the four victims? I would not believe any narrative of what went down until all the investigation is done.

Could be mistaken identity. Could be that they tried to buy drugs and circumvent the parties controlling such transactions. Time will tell

Way to clean up Mexico:

Treat northern Mexico like it is Iraq. Treat the cartels like they are ISIS. Do what Trump did to ISIS to cartels.

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Way to clean up Mexico:

Treat northern Mexico like it is Iraq. Treat the cartels like they are ISIS. Do what Trump did to ISIS to cartels.

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The problem is that no one wants to clean up Mexico.

This is the honest truth. Those politicians up in DC are too far removed from the issue. Plus I imagine that some are getting their pockets lined with some cartel money as well.

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I don't live in the Valley.

I have white friends who go to Reynosa every damn day and manage to come back alive. They also aren't stupid enough to walk around looking like a tourista

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I am sure there are a few "safe passage" towns for whitey...although I wouldn't like my long term odds if I was going to ANY Mexican border town almost every day. My Mexican buddy from Oaxaca says he would never go to most border towns or travel some of the highways leading to the interior. And he used to make pretty routine road trips to places like Monterey etc.

I wish Mexico would turn things around. I miss partyin in Acuna and Piedras Negras. We used to tear up a place called Moderno's down there...supposed inventors of the nacho lol.

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Charpie said:

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LMCane said:

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1. you have to be pretty insane to go for a non-lethal disease treatment in Mexico

2. you have to be pretty insane to be driving around Mexico with US license plates on your car

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People do this all the damn time without any consequences. White and Hispanic folks do this daily.

It's amazing how many of you keyboard warriors up in Frisco and Katy think you know about the border. It's not as bad as it once was when the cartel violence first broke out.

This specific situation seems to be a case of mistaken identity, which is why both governments got involved.

And if you think that the US and Mexican governments are fully aware AND allowing the cartels to operate as long as no one of consequence gets hurt, then you aren't as smart as you think you are.

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Yeah, maybe there isn't an all out turf war going on RIGHT NOW, but it's still really effing bad. You can live 100-200 miles from the border and know that. And almost all of us have friends and family living down there who give us the scoop. Hell it's pretty bad on this side. I know people who have had to hold gang bangers on their own land at gunpoint.

I think the keyboard warriors in/from the Valley are the funniest..."I go all the time, I'm not scared, y'all don't know what you're talking about, it's not that bad". You may feel fine cruising through Juarez or Piedras or Matamoros as someone who looks indistinguishable from most of the residents of those towns, but I can almost guarantee you'd feel like a fish out of water as a white or black person.

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Mexico is a lot like South Africa. Sure, it's totally fine to go there until you get kidnapped, raped, or murdered and then it's not so fine. The crime rates in both are astronomical so why tempt fate when there are many other nice places to go.

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Why? Because no matter how much I ask, my barber won't pour tequila down my throat and spin me in his chair.

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YouBet said:

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Brittmoore Car Club said:

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Charpie said:

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LMCane said:

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1. you have to be pretty insane to go for a non-lethal disease treatment in Mexico

2. you have to be pretty insane to be driving around Mexico with US license plates on your car

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People do this all the damn time without any consequences. White and Hispanic folks do this daily.

It's amazing how many of you keyboard warriors up in Frisco and Katy think you know about the border. It's not as bad as it once was when the cartel violence first broke out.

This specific situation seems to be a case of mistaken identity, which is why both governments got involved.

And if you think that the US and Mexican governments are fully aware AND allowing the cartels to operate as long as no one of consequence gets hurt, then you aren't as smart as you think you are.

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Yeah, maybe there isn't an all out turf war going on RIGHT NOW, but it's still really effing bad. You can live 100-200 miles from the border and know that. And almost all of us have friends and family living down there who give us the scoop. Hell it's pretty bad on this side. I know people who have had to hold gang bangers on their own land at gunpoint.

I think the keyboard warriors in/from the Valley are the funniest..."I go all the time, I'm not scared, y'all don't know what you're talking about, it's not that bad". You may feel fine cruising through Juarez or Piedras or Matamoros as someone who looks indistinguishable from most of the residents of those towns, but I can almost guarantee you'd feel like a fish out of water as a white or black person.

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Mexico is a lot like South Africa. Sure, it's totally fine to go there until you get kidnapped, raped, or murdered and then it's not so fine. The crime rates in both are astronomical so why tempt fate when there are many other nice places to go.

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Why? Because no matter how much I ask, my barber won't pour tequila down my throat and spin me in his chair.

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Mine would but he's also gay and does house calls.

Yup maybe we can use that 'already paid for' military gear to use on Mexican cartels instead of Ukraine. But what do I know.

No no! Russians are the greater threat to Americans and the Ukrainian border is more important to our security than our own, obviously.

J. Walter Weatherman said:

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RGLAG85 said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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flakrat said:

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atmtws said:

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Diverting attention from the 1/6 video footage that was released to Tucker.

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And the latest Wuhan Lab Leak "leaks"

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The Mexican cartel is part of the Deep State??

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Dense you are.

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So the cartel joined the weekly Deep State zoom meetings to offer up their willingness to help distract the public?

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It's a delicate dance, but apparently it's being used as a distraction to whatever a person wants the media focused on (two examples supra), and yet will be memory holed as uncomfortable for being too on point (per below).

So a quick distraction, followed by forgetfulness. It's a Rorschach cartel hit.

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The media is going to memory hole the **** outta this story.

1. Cartel violence against Americans? Check.
2. Violence in close proximity to the American border? Check.
3. Minority Americans killed by future minority Americans? Check.

FBI…
Biden Admin….
Punk ass media….

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I work with a guy who went to Tijuana last year with his wife so she could get lap band surgery. He said it was a great experience. It was $5K and the hospital set them up at a beach house on Rosarita Beach for the week they were there. He said the hospital was pristine and they waited on them hand and foot. Everything turned fine for them. Wife lost a ton of weight and hasn't had any issues since.

Anyway, I wouldn't ever do that, but their time was a success story. Also, he said the hospital had them park on the US side of the border and a hospital van picked them up and took them across the border and trolleyed them around all week so they didn't drive in.

Can't vouch for Twitter handle but there is this today:

U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham stated today that he is preparing to present Legislation to the Senate that would allow for the deployment of U.S. Military Forces to Mexico; this comes after 4 Americans were Kidnapped with 3 most likely being Killed by the Gulf Cartel on Friday. pic.twitter.com/j5BelEBTMG

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) March 7, 2023

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Can't vouch for Twitter handle but there is this today:

U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham stated today that he is preparing to present Legislation to the Senate that would allow for the deployment of U.S. Military Forces to Mexico; this comes after 4 Americans were Kidnapped with 3 most likely being Killed by the Gulf Cartel on Friday. pic.twitter.com/j5BelEBTMG

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) March 7, 2023

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Hmmm.. controlled opposition of the uniparty submitting distraction legislation to crowd out the airwaves from Jan 6.

SA68AG said:

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So when is Al Sharpton headed to Matamoros ?

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That grifter is only in the game for himself. No way he stands up to people that will slit his throat.

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I work with a guy who went to Tijuana last year with his wife so she could get lap band surgery. He said it was a great experience. It was $5K and the hospital set them up at a beach house on Rosarita Beach for the week they were there. He said the hospital was pristine and they waited on them hand and foot. Everything turned fine for them. Wife lost a ton of weight and hasn't had any issues since.

Anyway, I wouldn't ever do that, but their time was a success story. Also, he said the hospital had them park on the US side of the border and a hospital van picked them up and took them across the border and trolleyed them around all week so they didn't drive in.

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Sister in law did the same thing a couple of months ago. I think it was a medical tourism company that set everything up. Flew into San Diego, Hospital van picked them up, took them to Hotel. Van picked them up the next day and took them to the hospital, which was behind a tall, locked gate. Didn't leave the hospital until time to go back across the border to SD. Never felt like they were in any kind of danger.

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I'm going to go ahead and say it. These four were probably going to purchase cheap Rx and resell it in America.

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100%

Brittmoore Car Club said:

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Charpie said:

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LMCane said:

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1. you have to be pretty insane to go for a non-lethal disease treatment in Mexico

2. you have to be pretty insane to be driving around Mexico with US license plates on your car

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People do this all the damn time without any consequences. White and Hispanic folks do this daily.

It's amazing how many of you keyboard warriors up in Frisco and Katy think you know about the border. It's not as bad as it once was when the cartel violence first broke out.

This specific situation seems to be a case of mistaken identity, which is why both governments got involved.

And if you think that the US and Mexican governments are fully aware AND allowing the cartels to operate as long as no one of consequence gets hurt, then you aren't as smart as you think you are.

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I think the keyboard warriors in/from the Valley are the funniest..."I go all the time, I'm not scared, y'all don't know what you're talking about, it's not that bad". You may feel fine cruising through Juarez or Piedras or Matamoros as someone who looks indistinguishable from most of the residents of those towns, but I can almost guarantee you'd feel like a fish out of water as a white or black person.

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Like most everything these days, there's a big gap in between "nobody should ever go to Mexico" and "there's no problem going across".

I live in the Valley and I don't go across. Haven't for a long time now. Most of my friends are the same way. But I know people (including gringos) who go to Nuevo Progreso to eat or buy pharmaceuticals. I know people (including gringos) who have offices on the Mexican side who travel across frequently without a problem.

I also know people who have had to hide out in the back of a store because of some gunfire erupting. I know these same businessmen tell me that the locals on the Mexican side will tell them certain areas to avoid that day if they're going across.

From what I'm reading, at least one of these people had already been across once for a medical procedure without a problem. It's pretty well known down here that the bad guys watch who is coming across. I really think these 4 were misidentified and just got caught up in a bad situation. It's a pretty lawless country once you cross the border, and things can go sideways real quickly.

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annie88 said:

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I'm sorry for the loss of your friend, but how anybody could think that getting a surgery in Mexico is a good idea is beyond me. Truly, that is something that I would never even consider.

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I personally know 3 Mexican American girls who got nose jobs in Mexico in the past year or two. Granted, they were done in Monterrey and San Miguel de Allende, which are much safer cities than Matamoros or any border town. The nose jobs were all done very well, with respected surgeons, and much cheaper than it would have cost in the US. There are some very good surgeons/doctors in Mexico and South America that a lot of Americans visit for their procedures.

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they should go to Colombia for plastic surgery

it's heavily subsidized by the government

YouBet said:

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Can't vouch for Twitter handle but there is this today:

U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham stated today that he is preparing to present Legislation to the Senate that would allow for the deployment of U.S. Military Forces to Mexico; this comes after 4 Americans were Kidnapped with 3 most likely being Killed by the Gulf Cartel on Friday. pic.twitter.com/j5BelEBTMG

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) March 7, 2023

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Oh, ****ing hell. Grahmnesty has never met any war he didn't want to get involved with or started.

Houston Chronicle reporting that the two survivors have been rescued and returned to US soil...

Evidentally 2 dead, 2 suriving.

The two deceased seemed evident from the kidnapping video...

Brittmoore Car Club said:

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Charpie said:

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LMCane said:

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1. you have to be pretty insane to go for a non-lethal disease treatment in Mexico

2. you have to be pretty insane to be driving around Mexico with US license plates on your car

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People do this all the damn time without any consequences. White and Hispanic folks do this daily.

It's amazing how many of you keyboard warriors up in Frisco and Katy think you know about the border. It's not as bad as it once was when the cartel violence first broke out.

This specific situation seems to be a case of mistaken identity, which is why both governments got involved.

And if you think that the US and Mexican governments are fully aware AND allowing the cartels to operate as long as no one of consequence gets hurt, then you aren't as smart as you think you are.

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Yeah, maybe there isn't an all out turf war going on RIGHT NOW, but it's still really effing bad. You can live 100-200 miles from the border and know that. And almost all of us have friends and family living down there who give us the scoop. Hell it's pretty bad on this side. I know people who have had to hold gang bangers on their own land at gunpoint.

I think the keyboard warriors in/from the Valley are the funniest..."I go all the time, I'm not scared, y'all don't know what you're talking about, it's not that bad". You may feel fine cruising through Juarez or Piedras or Matamoros as someone who looks indistinguishable from most of the residents of those towns, but I can almost guarantee you'd feel like a fish out of water as a white or black person.

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I'm white Kemosabe…..

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If Americans were not so hooked on drugs that would help also

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THIS!

Assuming Americans choose to pay attention to these dead kids (well, two of them), then it's likely they'll also hear about the fentanyl and meth going across our borders like shoes and furniture. However, the cartels wouldn't be sending it over if they couldn't make money, so it's still our problems.