No honest person can deny it

I thought those were conspiracy theories….

Worse is they succeeded and no recourse- and many Republicans were ok with it also and participated in it

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Worse is they succeeded and no recourse- and many Republicans were ok with it also and participated in it

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That's because Republicans and democrats are on the same side, the uniparty side. 90% of our politicians are self serving and pure evil.

What about the deadly insurrection and all the people who were killed? Are we just going to forget about that? Wait one moment. I'm hearing that only one person was killed. An unarmed woman. Who was shot in the head at near point blank range. By a police officer.

I'm still Frustrated that Trump held the rally and so many people showed up. Gave the Dems enough fodder to dupe the American public. Compliments of the media.

Not Trumps fault in the least. Everyone but Trump and his supporters can exercise rights to assemble? Give me a break.


The big news is the liars in the Uni-party and the foolish stooges who made up lies and pushed more BS.

If you are trying to blame Trump, be ashamed. If you are continuing to try to push "insurrection" then you are the problem. And a major problem.

May you be judged harshly until such time as you turn from your foolishness.

And for those with reading comprehension issues… I never said nor intimated that peeps should have entered the Capitol. That is a different issue… but insurrection is total and utter BS. It is a lie; a child of Goebbels and he would be so proud.

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I'm still Frustrated that Trump held the rally and so many people showed up. Gave the Dems enough fodder to dupe the American public. Compliments of the media.

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Yes. It's Trump's fault that the dimocrats entrapped people and hid evidence.

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I'm still Frustrated that Trump held the rally and so many people showed up. Gave the Dems enough fodder to dupe the American public. Compliments of the media.

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Stockholm

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I'm still Frustrated that Trump held the rally and so many people showed up. Gave the Dems enough fodder to dupe the American public. Compliments of the media.

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So that was an organized Trump rally? Silly me, I thought the masses were reacting to an election that appeared to being rigged and after watching Trump being attacked with false claim After false claim had enough and marched

We currently have political prisoners in this Country.

Nobody cares.

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I'm still Frustrated that Trump held the rally and so many people showed up. Gave the Dems enough fodder to dupe the American public. Compliments of the media.

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Yes they should have just obediently accepted it.

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We currently have political prisoners in this Country.

Nobody cares.

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this is what matters.

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Worse is they succeeded and no recourse- and many Republicans were ok with it also and participated in it

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That's because Republicans and democrats are on the same side, the uniparty side. 90% of our politicians are self serving and pure evil.

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Bingo!

This is also why they all loathe the outsider, DJT. He wasn't on their side. He was - and is - on America's side.

Somebody on this thread....

Trump had handlers as well. He just didn't listen to his handlers when it mattered, and that's why he was ousted. Plus he had billions of levels of Obama federal employees that worked against him. For some reason though, the Dimtards are still scared of him and his faction. The American presidency is still chosen by an elite few who are bent on destroying the middle class.

So now that this damning footage is out, and we expect more Chinese spy balloon distractions?

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It's amazing how willing people are lie indiscriminately. Leftist ideologies, including queer, gender, and race, trump everything for the left. They will do and say anything to promote their poison.

Tapes like this prove it all... the first 'insurrection" was a nothing burger.

We should all be concerned that the FBI and other LAW enforcement agencies wanted a "display." Our government is corrupt and close to a Venezuela regime than anything close to a republic. It's sickening. All great societies crumble from within. But we wouldn't want a little thing history being discussed or examined. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. This is NOT America anymore. If you're caught unprepared to survive at this point you are a fool.

This just confirms what most of us on F16 already knew.

January 6th was concocted by the Democrats to ensure that Trump would have an extremely difficult time ever running for office again, possibly another impeachment, and also trap as many MAGA people in their snare as possible.

It is the only explanation of the events.

1) Democrats refused to put additional security at the capitol that day

2) Democrats planted FBI agents and Antifa people inter-dispersed with the MAGA crowd to attempt to incite a riot

3) Video shows the Capitol police take orders to open the doors and escort people into the capitol in a very orderly way

4) This new video shows the Shaman was never a threat and was lead by capitol police

5) Multiple reports have shown that the injuries to capitol police were either a heart attack or very minor scuffles with who knows who those people were.

6) The people who have been charged have not had basic rights such as a speedy trial, held without charges, or any other basis rights we have as citizens. These are political prisoners.

7) Democrats continue to blow the whole thing outta proportion of how it was the worse attack on the US since 9/11 to make sure it stays fresh on everyone's mind and pushes a narrative.

Did tucker also mention the Jacob Chansley left a note for pence that said "It's only a matter of time. Justice is coming."


Or did he bring up the fact that Chansley actually pled guilty to his charges?

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Did tucker also mention the Jacob Chansley left a note for pence that said "It's only a matter of time. Justice is coming."


Or did he bring up the fact that Chansley actually pled guilty to his charges?

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People are coerced to plead all the time. Particularly when their civil rights are denied. That's why our constitution is supposed to guarantee it doesn't happen.

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Did tucker also mention the Jacob Chansley left a note for pence that said "It's only a matter of time. Justice is coming."


Or did he bring up the fact that Chansley actually pled guilty to his charges?

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People are coerced to plead all the time. Particularly when their civil rights are denied. That's why our constitution is supposed to guarantee it doesn't happen.

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Exactly.

"Since this is a matter of national security, we can hold you here for another 2 years without charges, where you don't see your family or even talk to a lawyer, or you can just sign this piece of paper...''

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This just confirms what most of us on F16 already knew.

January 6th was concocted by the Democrats to ensure that Trump would have an extremely difficult time ever running for office again, possibly another impeachment, and also trap as many MAGA people in their snare as possible.

It is the only explanation of the events.

1) Democrats refused to put additional security at the capitol that day

2) Democrats planted FBI agents and Antifa people inter-dispersed with the MAGA crowd to attempt to incite a riot

3) Video shows the Capitol police take orders to open the doors and escort people into the capitol in a very orderly way

4) This new video shows the Shaman was never a threat and was lead by capitol police

5) Multiple reports have shown that the injuries to capitol police were either a heart attack or very minor scuffles with who knows who those people were.

6) The people who have been charged have not had basic rights such as a speedy trial, held without charges, or any other basis rights we have as citizens. These are political prisoners.

7) Democrats continue to blow the whole thing outta proportion of how it was the worse attack on the US since 9/11 to make sure it stays fresh on everyone's mind and pushes a narrative.

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-there is plenty of video of people actually breaking windows and doors to gain access to the capital (that's how Chansley initially entered the building. Through a busted door).

-provide some evidence of Democrats planting people to incite riots. Not just some pipe dream because you don't want to admit the pro trump crowd was violent.

-Daniel Rodriguez admitted to tazing officer Fanone while he was being beaten by the mob and plead guilty.

Jacob Chansley left a note for pence stating, "it's only a matter of time. Justin is coming". He also plead guilty to his charges.

-People aren't being held without charges or having basic rights denied. Many of 700 plus charged are out on bond right now. People are apparently finding out that it sucks to be in prison.

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This just confirms what most of us on F16 already knew.

January 6th was concocted by the Democrats to ensure that Trump would have an extremely difficult time ever running for office again, possibly another impeachment, and also trap as many MAGA people in their snare as possible.

It is the only explanation of the events.

1) Democrats refused to put additional security at the capitol that day

2) Democrats planted FBI agents and Antifa people inter-dispersed with the MAGA crowd to attempt to incite a riot

3) Video shows the Capitol police take orders to open the doors and escort people into the capitol in a very orderly way

4) This new video shows the Shaman was never a threat and was lead by capitol police

5) Multiple reports have shown that the injuries to capitol police were either a heart attack or very minor scuffles with who knows who those people were.

6) The people who have been charged have not had basic rights such as a speedy trial, held without charges, or any other basis rights we have as citizens. These are political prisoners.

7) Democrats continue to blow the whole thing outta proportion of how it was the worse attack on the US since 9/11 to make sure it stays fresh on everyone's mind and pushes a narrative.

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I have seen the video.

1) You don't know that everyone that was breaking a door or window was a MAGA supporter. I saw at least 2 videos that showed one of the guys actually breaking out a window was in an Antifa crowd 2-3 months earlier.

2) I have also seen video where the capitol police were directed to open the doors of the capitol to let people in. The door were not in risk of being breached. They were instructed to do it, and then escorted people in.

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-provide some evidence of Democrats planting people to incite riots. Not just some pipe dream because you don't want to admit the pro trump crowd was violent.

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1) There was video of known Antifa people dressed in MAGA gear on that day. There was also pictures of FBI agents that were confirmed to be there as well. Several of the people in the videos that would be very easy to arrest were never arrested for doing things everyone else was doing or more, why do you think that is?

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-Daniel Rodriguez admitted to tazing officer Fanone while he was being beaten by the mob and plead guilty.

Jacob Chansley left a note for pence stating, "it's only a matter of time. Justin is coming". He also plead guilty to his charges.

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Mob mentality is a thing and a small percentage of people that go to rallys like this probably are not 100% stable. Goes for any large group. Pleading guilty could mean he is agreeing to a lesser charge, happens all the time. Mob mentality for this as well. Could be same as with the Michigan governor kidnapping plot. Never know what someone was incited to do.

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-People aren't being held without charges or having basic rights denied. Many of 700 plus charged are out on bond right now. People are apparently finding out that it sucks to be in prison.

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Pretty sure this is incorrect. I have read several stories of husbands still being held with no charges filed. Pretty sure one of them was since Xmas.

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aggiez03 said:

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This just confirms what most of us on F16 already knew.

January 6th was concocted by the Democrats to ensure that Trump would have an extremely difficult time ever running for office again, possibly another impeachment, and also trap as many MAGA people in their snare as possible.

It is the only explanation of the events.

1) Democrats refused to put additional security at the capitol that day

2) Democrats planted FBI agents and Antifa people inter-dispersed with the MAGA crowd to attempt to incite a riot

3) Video shows the Capitol police take orders to open the doors and escort people into the capitol in a very orderly way

4) This new video shows the Shaman was never a threat and was lead by capitol police

5) Multiple reports have shown that the injuries to capitol police were either a heart attack or very minor scuffles with who knows who those people were.

6) The people who have been charged have not had basic rights such as a speedy trial, held without charges, or any other basis rights we have as citizens. These are political prisoners.

7) Democrats continue to blow the whole thing outta proportion of how it was the worse attack on the US since 9/11 to make sure it stays fresh on everyone's mind and pushes a narrative.

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-there is plenty of video of people actually breaking windows and doors to gain access to the capital (that's how Chansley initially entered the building. Through a busted door).

-provide some evidence of Democrats planting people to incite riots. Not just some pipe dream because you don't want to admit the pro trump crowd was violent.

-Daniel Rodriguez admitted to tazing officer Fanone while he was being beaten by the mob and plead guilty.

Jacob Chansley left a note for pence stating, "it's only a matter of time. Justin is coming". He also plead guilty to his charges.

-People aren't being held without charges or having basic rights denied. Many of 700 plus charged are out on bond right now. People are apparently finding out that it sucks to be in prison.

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it's more than 2 years after the fact, Chief.

I had been posting on the first thread on this subject but now it's gone for no reason apparently.

The videos shown tonight were infuriating.

Twitter Files and Zuckerberg's own admission on Joe Rogan have proven that dnc and the government colluded with tech platform monopolies to censor press and hide news containing proof of Joe Biden's career of public corruption. Biggest election interference in history after they cried about made up stories that the Russians interfered in the 2016 election. That, and the ridiculous idea of turning absentee voting into an unsolicited mass mailing campaign and getting donors to pay for collections, means the election really was stolen. Those unarmed trespassers who are still held as political prisoners were right to be angry about the stolen election.

And the Jan 6 committee and the democrat's publicists in media went on and on for years about how deadly it was and how the "insurrectionists" killed so many cops when it was ZERO. The video of officer sicknick was damning and they knew about it. The misleading clips of Senator Hawley - intentional. The unarmed shirtless vegan with face paint and a bison hat- if he's still in jail, why aren't all the police officers helping him out and escorting him around in jail? Video proof that Ray Epps lied to the fake committee- they knew. All an act. They can all burn in hell.

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Let's have a name then. Who is being held without any charges? It should be pretty easy to prove right?

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For Clarification, this is what I said...

6) The people who have been charged have not had basic rights such as a speedy trial, held without charges, or any other basis rights we have as citizens. These are political prisoners.

It was an example of things that have happened, I never said all three continue to happen.
It is a fact that ALL 3 did happen though.


Here is a biased source for you to complain about:

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Oct. 6, 2022, 12:47 PM CDT
By Rebecca Shabad and Ryan J. Reilly
WASHINGTON Nearly three dozen people charged with crimes related to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol who are being held at Washington, D.C.'s jail have asked to be transferred to the U.S. detention camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, if conditions don't improve at their facility.

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On seven pages of yellow legal pad paper recently submitted in federal court, the 34 defendants described the jail in the nation's capital as having "medieval standards of living" and "hellacious conditions" that it "insists on tormenting its traumatized guests with." They demanded that their problems be addressed, saying they no longer want to be "trapped within the wretched confines of cruel and unusual punishment."

The group listed numerous concerns and complaints about their experiences across more than two pages. They said, for example, that they "continue to endure" things like "begging for help/water/medical aid." They claimed they are not allowed visitations, access to religious services or access to their attorneys. They reported that their laundry has been returned with "brown stains, pubic hair and or reeking of ripe urine.

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The Jan. 6 detainees also wrote in their complaint that they have been presented with critical race theory "propaganda" on tablets, along with "re-education propaganda" and "racially-biased information." They claimed they have been physically harassed, Maced and assaulted by guards.

"We hereby request to spend our precious and limited days, should the government continue to insist on holding us captive unconstitutionally as pre-trial detainees to be transferred and reside at Guantanamo Bay," said their letter, which added that the Cuba facility, which houses detainees charged with terrorist acts, provides "nutritional meals, routine sunlight exposure, top notch medical care, is respectful of religious requirements, has centers for exercise/entertainment."

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/jan-6-defendants-held-dc-jail-request-transfer-guantanamo-bay-rcna51028


Take it up with NBC news, they wrote the story..


Another one from May 28,2021 ...

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Some of the federal judges hearing the Capitol cases have expressed concern that certain defendants may have already spent more time in custody than they are likely to face as a punishment for their crimes.

"For those who end up only charged with misdemeanors, it's likely that they won't serve any substantial time, or potentially no time at all," said Mary McCord, an expert on extremism who served for nearly 20 years as a prosecutor in the US attorney's office in Washington DC. "It's quite possible if they were to plead guilty, they would be sentenced to whatever time was served, or 30 days."

Eric Munchel, right, and his mother, Lisa Marie Eisenhart. Photograph: AP

There is a tension between the dramatic collective effect of the 6 January mob, which halted the official certification of Biden's election as president and threatened the legitimacy of American democracy, legal experts said, and what federal prosecutors can prove that individual people did.

"The irony is that we have so many laws so many things are illegal it's somewhat surprising that they're not able to find charges that are more serious," Zunkel said.

Some more serious potential charges, like conspiracy or seditious conspiracy, would require evidence of prior agreement to commit a crime that appears to be lacking for many participants in the chaotic Capitol mob, said Daniel Richman, a Columbia University law professor and former federal prosecutor.
"When you look at each individual, what they did might amount to destruction of property or illegal entry, and that's in all likelihood what they'll be charged with, but the larger dimension of their participation in a massive attack falls by the wayside," Richman said.

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/28/us-capitol-attack-suspects-jail-trial