I'm sure it's been discussed on another thread, but I can't find one so I'm starting this one.

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed a bill today that basically ends the Disney World's special self-governing status it had in the state bc of it's opposition to the "Don't Say Gay" bill. So it is my understanding that now Disney will have a more difficult time in it operation of WDW bc it will no longer have the power of a "local government." Why does it feel like the Florida taxpayer will suffer the most from this? I mean Disney is a huge company with deep pockets and is responsible for a large portion of visitors to the state of Florida. And I am sure the have PACs towards politicians and they will moe to have this reinstated somehow? "There's a new sheriff in town and accountability will be the order of the day." Just seems like a thinly-veiled attempt at some political points that might hurt the Rs in the end. (I bet DeSantis is long gone and running for POTUS by the time anything substantial even happens so probably worth it on his end if he has his sights on the White House)

He is just pushing big government

It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

Literally on the first page.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3284381

Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

CDUB98 said:

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Literally on the first page.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3284381

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

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Texas has carved out entire areas in the state that operate autonomously w/o any state oversight?

News to me!

Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

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Texas has carved out entire areas in the state that operate autonomously w/o any state oversight?

News to me!

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Given competitive advantages….

cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

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Texas has carved out entire areas in the state that operate autonomously w/o any state oversight?

News to me!

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Given competitive advantages….

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And Disney had their's for like 50yrs. See no problem with them losing that special status to level the field. Maybe if they had STFU and stayed in their lane it would've continued relatively unnoticed and they'd still have it. But, actions have consequences and Disney gets to now learn that first hand.

Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

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Texas has carved out entire areas in the state that operate autonomously w/o any state oversight?

News to me!

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Given competitive advantages….

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And Disney had theres for like 50yrs. See no problem with them losing that special status to level the field. Maybe if they had STFU and stayed in their lane it would've continued relatively unnoticed and they'd still have it. But, actions have consequences and Disney gets to now learn that first hand.

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I honestly wouldn't have much of a problem with it if it was being done for reasons other than feelings getting hurt. Desantis is soft.

I also am not convinced this will not be a burden to Florida taxpayers.

The state of Florida gave Disney a huge operational and competitive advantage back in the 1960s, which benefited the company greatly.

Given their position as a "favored entity," getting publicly involved in legislation that had no direct impact on the company was just stupid.

I bet the Universal and SeaWorld execs are having a big laugh.

EclipseAg said:

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The state of Florida gave Disney a huge operational and competitive advantage back in the 1960s, which benefited the company greatly.

Given their position as a "favored entity," getting publicly involved in legislation that had no direct impact on the company was just stupid.

I bet the Universal and SeaWorld execs are having a big laugh.

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Universal Orlando benefits from Disney. They need disneyworld to bring in the crowds and prop up surrounding infrastructure.

cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

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A) give me an example where texas has given one company special tax status over a direct in state competitor.
B) correcting an injustice even if the motivation is not altruistic is still the correct thing to do.

cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

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Texas has carved out entire areas in the state that operate autonomously w/o any state oversight?

News to me!

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Given competitive advantages….

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And Disney had theres for like 50yrs. See no problem with them losing that special status to level the field. Maybe if they had STFU and stayed in their lane it would've continued relatively unnoticed and they'd still have it. But, actions have consequences and Disney gets to now learn that first hand.

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I honestly wouldn't have much of a problem with it if it was being done for reasons other than feelings getting hurt. Desantis is soft.

I also am not convinced this will not be a burden to Florida taxpayers.

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What you are or are not convinced of is not relevant, how about start a thread when you get some actual data to form an educated opinion. Desantis is the opposite of soft, and unlike you we have the data and actions to show it.

There is no "Don't say gay" in the bill. What is in the bill is that Florida teachers can't discuss rimjobs and ******** to second graders. That this bothers anyone is disgusting.

And Florida taxpayers will be just fine. The RCID board no longer solely consists of Bob Iger's buddies from the club. Everything else is virtually the same.

Yes...Florida taxpayers will suffer as FL deals with the fallout of their budget......'checks notes'.....SURPLUS of $22B

Ags4DaWin said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

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A) give me an example where texas has given one company special tax status over a direct in state competitor.
B) correcting an injustice even if the motivation is not altruistic is still the correct thing to do.

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A) you know I meant give special considerations and advantages not specifically exactly this
B) I'm not convinced this is best for Disney employees or Florida tax payers despite the narrative pushed. Also doing things for the wrong reasons and especially just cause your feelings were hurt is a bad precedent. It can lead to poor choices

Irish 2.0 said:

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Yes...Florida taxpayers will suffer as FL deals with the fallout of their budget......'checks notes'.....SURPLUS of $22B

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A surplus has nothing to do with this decision…. Good on them for the surplus but….

cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

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Texas has carved out entire areas in the state that operate autonomously w/o any state oversight?

News to me!

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Given competitive advantages….

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And Disney had theres for like 50yrs. See no problem with them losing that special status to level the field. Maybe if they had STFU and stayed in their lane it would've continued relatively unnoticed and they'd still have it. But, actions have consequences and Disney gets to now learn that first hand.

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I honestly wouldn't have much of a problem with it if it was being done for reasons other than feelings getting hurt. Desantis is soft.

I also am not convinced this will not be a burden to Florida taxpayers.

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Feelings getting hurt? Not about feelings. Disney took a public position on legislation that had nothing to do with Disney at all; and, said position was diametrically opposed to everything Walt Disney stood for and created with Disney World - the innocence of children.

Oh, and by the way, Disney totally misrepresented the purpose and effect of the legislation.

They bit the hand that fed them. And soft? Soft is taking the BS on the chin and trying to play to the woke crowd. Desantis made the correct play. 100%.

samurai_science said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

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Texas has carved out entire areas in the state that operate autonomously w/o any state oversight?

News to me!

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Given competitive advantages….

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And Disney had theres for like 50yrs. See no problem with them losing that special status to level the field. Maybe if they had STFU and stayed in their lane it would've continued relatively unnoticed and they'd still have it. But, actions have consequences and Disney gets to now learn that first hand.

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I honestly wouldn't have much of a problem with it if it was being done for reasons other than feelings getting hurt. Desantis is soft.

I also am not convinced this will not be a burden to Florida taxpayers.

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What you are or are not convinced of is not relevant, how about start a thread when you get some actual data to form an educated opinion. Desantis is the opposite of soft, and unlike you we have the data and actions to show it.

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- I didn't start the thread
- show me the data. Actual data not just a narrative
- desantis is soft and did this cause his feelings were hurt

Man I can't keep track.

Do the commie "govern-me-harder-daddy" Democrats want more government or not?? Ron finally gives Disney more gov't and they're running around like their hair's on fire.

jrdaustin said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

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Texas has carved out entire areas in the state that operate autonomously w/o any state oversight?

News to me!

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Given competitive advantages….

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And Disney had theres for like 50yrs. See no problem with them losing that special status to level the field. Maybe if they had STFU and stayed in their lane it would've continued relatively unnoticed and they'd still have it. But, actions have consequences and Disney gets to now learn that first hand.

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I honestly wouldn't have much of a problem with it if it was being done for reasons other than feelings getting hurt. Desantis is soft.

I also am not convinced this will not be a burden to Florida taxpayers.

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Feelings getting hurt? Not about feelings. Disney took a public position on legislation that had nothing to do with Disney at all; and, said position was diametrically opposed to everything Walt Disney stood for and created with Disney World - the innocence of children.

Oh, and by the way, totally misrepresented the purpose and effect of the legislation.

They bit the hand that fed them. And soft? Soft is taking the BS on the chin and trying to play to the woke crowd. Desantis made the correct play. 100%.

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didn't know punishment for freedom of speech is cool

I can't reply to everyone. Y'all come fast and hard over here. LOL.

cityagboy said:

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jrdaustin said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

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Texas has carved out entire areas in the state that operate autonomously w/o any state oversight?

News to me!

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Given competitive advantages….

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And Disney had theres for like 50yrs. See no problem with them losing that special status to level the field. Maybe if they had STFU and stayed in their lane it would've continued relatively unnoticed and they'd still have it. But, actions have consequences and Disney gets to now learn that first hand.

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I honestly wouldn't have much of a problem with it if it was being done for reasons other than feelings getting hurt. Desantis is soft.

I also am not convinced this will not be a burden to Florida taxpayers.

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Feelings getting hurt? Not about feelings. Disney took a public position on legislation that had nothing to do with Disney at all; and, said position was diametrically opposed to everything Walt Disney stood for and created with Disney World - the innocence of children.

Oh, and by the way, totally misrepresented the purpose and effect of the legislation.

They bit the hand that fed them. And soft? Soft is taking the BS on the chin and trying to play to the woke crowd. Desantis made the correct play. 100%.

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didn't know punishment for freedom of speech is cool

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What punishment was levied? Was anyone arrested, fined, fired, etc. for their speech?

Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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jrdaustin said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

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Texas has carved out entire areas in the state that operate autonomously w/o any state oversight?

News to me!

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Given competitive advantages….

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And Disney had theres for like 50yrs. See no problem with them losing that special status to level the field. Maybe if they had STFU and stayed in their lane it would've continued relatively unnoticed and they'd still have it. But, actions have consequences and Disney gets to now learn that first hand.

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I honestly wouldn't have much of a problem with it if it was being done for reasons other than feelings getting hurt. Desantis is soft.

I also am not convinced this will not be a burden to Florida taxpayers.

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Feelings getting hurt? Not about feelings. Disney took a public position on legislation that had nothing to do with Disney at all; and, said position was diametrically opposed to everything Walt Disney stood for and created with Disney World - the innocence of children.

Oh, and by the way, totally misrepresented the purpose and effect of the legislation.

They bit the hand that fed them. And soft? Soft is taking the BS on the chin and trying to play to the woke crowd. Desantis made the correct play. 100%.

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didn't know punishment for freedom of speech is cool

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What punishment was levied? Was anyone arrested, fined, fired, etc. for their speech?

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right….

cityagboy said:

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samurai_science said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

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Texas has carved out entire areas in the state that operate autonomously w/o any state oversight?

News to me!

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Given competitive advantages….

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And Disney had theres for like 50yrs. See no problem with them losing that special status to level the field. Maybe if they had STFU and stayed in their lane it would've continued relatively unnoticed and they'd still have it. But, actions have consequences and Disney gets to now learn that first hand.

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I honestly wouldn't have much of a problem with it if it was being done for reasons other than feelings getting hurt. Desantis is soft.

I also am not convinced this will not be a burden to Florida taxpayers.

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What you are or are not convinced of is not relevant, how about start a thread when you get some actual data to form an educated opinion. Desantis is the opposite of soft, and unlike you we have the data and actions to show it.

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- I didn't start the thread
- show me the data. Actual data not just a narrative
- desantis is soft and did this cause his feelings were hurt

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You've said 3 times Desantis is soft. How do you think he was soft? By not allowing the misrepresentations of Disney win the day? By not losing?

So a strong Desantis would have allowed the MSM and Disney woke crowd completely distort the narrative and demonize him?

Truly you have a dizzying intellect.

cityagboy said:

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jrdaustin said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

---

Texas has carved out entire areas in the state that operate autonomously w/o any state oversight?

News to me!

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Given competitive advantages….

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And Disney had theres for like 50yrs. See no problem with them losing that special status to level the field. Maybe if they had STFU and stayed in their lane it would've continued relatively unnoticed and they'd still have it. But, actions have consequences and Disney gets to now learn that first hand.

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I honestly wouldn't have much of a problem with it if it was being done for reasons other than feelings getting hurt. Desantis is soft.

I also am not convinced this will not be a burden to Florida taxpayers.

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Feelings getting hurt? Not about feelings. Disney took a public position on legislation that had nothing to do with Disney at all; and, said position was diametrically opposed to everything Walt Disney stood for and created with Disney World - the innocence of children.

Oh, and by the way, totally misrepresented the purpose and effect of the legislation.

They bit the hand that fed them. And soft? Soft is taking the BS on the chin and trying to play to the woke crowd. Desantis made the correct play. 100%.

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didn't know punishment for freedom of speech is cool

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Lol. Freedom of speech doesn't equate to freedom from consequences. You libs love to spout that **** when the shoe is on the other foot.

C@LAg said:

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cityagboy said:

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jrdaustin said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

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Texas has carved out entire areas in the state that operate autonomously w/o any state oversight?

News to me!

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Given competitive advantages….

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And Disney had theres for like 50yrs. See no problem with them losing that special status to level the field. Maybe if they had STFU and stayed in their lane it would've continued relatively unnoticed and they'd still have it. But, actions have consequences and Disney gets to now learn that first hand.

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I honestly wouldn't have much of a problem with it if it was being done for reasons other than feelings getting hurt. Desantis is soft.

I also am not convinced this will not be a burden to Florida taxpayers.

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Feelings getting hurt? Not about feelings. Disney took a public position on legislation that had nothing to do with Disney at all; and, said position was diametrically opposed to everything Walt Disney stood for and created with Disney World - the innocence of children.

Oh, and by the way, totally misrepresented the purpose and effect of the legislation.

They bit the hand that fed them. And soft? Soft is taking the BS on the chin and trying to play to the woke crowd. Desantis made the correct play. 100%.

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didn't know punishment for freedom of speech is cool

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still not free of consequences of speech.

hth.

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True, From individual citizens and companies. Not true from the government….

Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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cityagboy said:

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jrdaustin said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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cityagboy said:

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Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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A) that's what Texas does to get big companies to move here
B) that's not why he made the change

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Texas has carved out entire areas in the state that operate autonomously w/o any state oversight?

News to me!

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Given competitive advantages….

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And Disney had theres for like 50yrs. See no problem with them losing that special status to level the field. Maybe if they had STFU and stayed in their lane it would've continued relatively unnoticed and they'd still have it. But, actions have consequences and Disney gets to now learn that first hand.

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I honestly wouldn't have much of a problem with it if it was being done for reasons other than feelings getting hurt. Desantis is soft.

I also am not convinced this will not be a burden to Florida taxpayers.

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Feelings getting hurt? Not about feelings. Disney took a public position on legislation that had nothing to do with Disney at all; and, said position was diametrically opposed to everything Walt Disney stood for and created with Disney World - the innocence of children.

Oh, and by the way, totally misrepresented the purpose and effect of the legislation.

They bit the hand that fed them. And soft? Soft is taking the BS on the chin and trying to play to the woke crowd. Desantis made the correct play. 100%.

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didn't know punishment for freedom of speech is cool

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Lol. Freedom of speech doesn't equate to freedom from consequences. You libs love to spout that **** when the shoe is on the other foot.

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True, From individual citizens and companies. Not true from the government….

You're right, it's grandstanding and expansion of government and reduction of Disney's rights as an entity. Weird take for Pro-Business GOP and a bad look IMHO with optics (eg who Desantis named to the new board).

If GOP voters felt so strongly about Disney, seems an effective boycott of their many products/services from ESPN to Marvel to Disney entertainment/parks would have been more impactful (lol, as if there are really that many republicans that have an issue with Disney).

Irish 2.0 said:

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It was the right move. Why should Disney have competitive advantages in FL over other amusement parks?

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Its good for business and they literally make the world go round in that part of Florida, no other Florida business can say the same. Better business means more money, more jobs, etc.