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Give our weapons to Ukraine. Deplete strategic petroleum reserves. Let China take Taiwan because we aren't in a position to stop them.
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FAA Closes Air Space Over Lake Michigan For "National Defense" Purpose
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Fighting aliens is not something I think about until last week. Only got one ProTip: Always double tap.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:
But we couldn't down a Chinese weather balloon over 7 people per square mile Montana? Just can't make this **** up.
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So we can shoot these objects down but couldn’t take a picture!?
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As soon as they started in with the, 'yeah but there were more balloons during Trump' you knew that the story was lol bs. The tds was too strong for them. They gave themselves away.
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do F-22s not have forward facing cannons for dogfighting? Why not just shoot these balloons down the old fashioned way?
Might introduce a real danger to the pilot given the speed differential?TX AG 88 said:
do F-22s not have forward facing cannons for dogfighting? Why not just shoot these balloons down the old fashioned way?
Somebody said there was a design defect in the pod bay door. Won't open above a certain altitude.
That's above 50KF, and it is because the air is so thin up there that there are a number of reasons you wouldn't typically be using a gun, so it wasn't designed to operate. It is difficult to fly way up there, you can't make sudden turns or do any real maneuvering as your aircraft will stall or lose control, so there's no "dogfighting". It can still be a missile platform though.
The balloons are probably almost as cold as the air around them so the seeker will have trouble with it.
The lake balloon was lower, and they could use guns, but I think the idea is the shells would pass right through the balloon without doing more than poking holes, but then fly on for a considerable distance to hit who knows what when they land, whereas a live missile typically self destructs when it fails to hit a target before falling below a certain velocity needed to keep maneuvering.
The balloons are probably almost as cold as the air around them so the seeker will have trouble with it.
The lake balloon was lower, and they could use guns, but I think the idea is the shells would pass right through the balloon without doing more than poking holes, but then fly on for a considerable distance to hit who knows what when they land, whereas a live missile typically self destructs when it fails to hit a target before falling below a certain velocity needed to keep maneuvering.
javajaws said:Might introduce a real danger to the pilot given the speed differential?TX AG 88 said:
do F-22s not have forward facing cannons for dogfighting? Why not just shoot these balloons down the old fashioned way?
that's a tactical challenge to be solved. easy method would be to get beneath it, pull (close to) straight up vertical and let gravity slow the aircraft to a low closing speed. Shoot from max range and peel off before getting too close to object or potential debris field. Wash, Rinse, Repeat until splashed. [edit] or, maybe not based on Mouth's post above. didn't consider effects of the thin air on aerodynamic controls.
Any chance it's just China trying to relocate this?
34.694493,-77.029663
34.694493,-77.029663
BREAKING: The U.S. intelligence community’s leading explanation for the three most recent unidentified objects shot down over North America is that they were being used for commercial or benign purposes, the White House says. https://t.co/nNhMtlLF8p
— NBC News (@NBCNews) February 14, 2023
Oops, nevermind world, nothing to see here, just needed a distraction for a few days.
Good grief.
Take a new poll....if that BS doesn't poll well, come up with another pile of steaming dung!
I have no idea how anyone can take "our" government seriously at this point. "It was the CCP! They were doing it under Trump too! It might've even been aliens! Nevermind, it was just research balloons."
And now back to "trust us, we didn't blow up the nordstream pipeline and we need to send billions more to Ukraine." Oh, and "devout catholics need to be monitored by the FBI." All of this in what, less than a week of actual/official communications?
And now back to "trust us, we didn't blow up the nordstream pipeline and we need to send billions more to Ukraine." Oh, and "devout catholics need to be monitored by the FBI." All of this in what, less than a week of actual/official communications?
And my trial watching habit has added state prosecutorial officers and a lot of judges to my cynical list. Except for the prosecutors in the Waukesha Christmas Parade case. That group were consummate professionals, like prosecutors are supposed to and did use to be.
Public service doesn't mean what it used to mean.
Public service doesn't mean what it used to mean.
At those altitudes, there's no cloud cover, so, it's getting direct sunlight energy. That will heat it up enough for a FLIR to see it since it will be warmer than the surrounding air.MouthBQ98 said:
That's above 50KF, and it is because the air is so thin up there that there are a number of reasons you wouldn't typically be using a gun, so it wasn't designed to operate. It is difficult to fly way up there, you can't make sudden turns or do any real maneuvering as your aircraft will stall or lose control, so there's no "dogfighting". It can still be a missile platform though.
The balloons are probably almost as cold as the air around them so the seeker will have trouble with it.
The lake balloon was lower, and they could use guns, but I think the idea is the shells would pass right through the balloon without doing more than poking holes, but then fly on for a considerable distance to hit who knows what when they land, whereas a live missile typically self destructs when it fails to hit a target before falling below a certain velocity needed to keep maneuvering.
We did anti-tank missile testing at WSMR in the mid 90s where we could see a NON OPERATING tank that had been out in the environment for months quite easily on our FLIR. I mean, it was LITERALLY black and white. And this was on a 0900 launch so it had been cooled down all night and only warmed up for a couple hours.
That was probably 1980s tech. I now have a $6K FLIR camera now that fits on a small UAS and it's at LEAST as good as that the FLIR we had back then (which I'm quite sure was very expensive).
Ag with kids said:If it wasn't detected, how do they know it was happening?nortex97 said:Somehow it’s always Trumps fault 🤣 https://t.co/25IznMPc7g
— Hodgetwins (@hodgetwins) February 13, 2023
So ****ing pathetic…
They recovered a Trump 2020 sign from the debris!
That took two rockets to bring down since the first one missed.Picard said:
I'm sure it's another mostly peaceful balloon
It is a good thing that the balloon did not shoot back.
*****JFABNRGR said:Ag with kids said:If it wasn't detected, how do they know it was happening?nortex97 said:Somehow it’s always Trumps fault 🤣 https://t.co/25IznMPc7g
— Hodgetwins (@hodgetwins) February 13, 2023
So ****ing pathetic…
They recovered a Trump 2020 sign from the debris!
It's time to IMPEACH HIM!!!!
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-tells-governors-thousands-objects-skies-arent-aliens-used-car-lot-balloons
It's true that there are things that are being identified that don't resemble anything else, that largely don't present a threat, and we have to figure out what to do about them. And it turns out, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of them."
It's true that there are things that are being identified that don't resemble anything else, that largely don't present a threat, and we have to figure out what to do about them. And it turns out, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of them."
One might have lead to the other.Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:Stat Monitor Repairman said:
But we couldn't down a Chinese weather balloon over 7 people per square mile Montana? Just can't make this **** up.
LOL, so now we knew about the 1 actual Chicom balloon from when it was launched.
BREAKING: CBS News has learned that U.S. intelligence watched the Chinese spy balloon as it lifted off near China's south coast, meaning the U.S. military had been tracking it for nearly a week before it entered U.S. airspace. pic.twitter.com/oaR5yZIRwm
— CBS Evening News (@CBSEveningNews) February 15, 2023
Absolutely nothing asserted by the executive branch of the US government should be taken at face value/believed. Not a single word, whether it is about inflation, Russia, China, oil prices, or homeland defense.Quote:
The Biden team has claimed that they first learned about it on Jan. 28, when it was near Alaska. Then, as I've noted before, their story evolved, first saying they didn't have time to take a shot over Alaskan waters. Then NORAD Commander Glen VanHerck said he couldn't take the shot because it wasn't demonstrating "hostile intent."
So if this report from CBS is correct, add one more lie to what they told us about this whole story and they had plenty of time to plan a takedown over water, contrary to what they said. If they had wanted to.
The bottom line is that they only reacted after the backlash from the public. We can see how Joe Biden downplayed the whole thing and even said he didn't see this as any kind of a "major breach." Likely, they never would have shot it down, had it not been for the American public getting upset about it after Americans in Billings, Montana made their sighting public. It's also likely why they are shooting down objects they claim they can't identify.
CBS said the leading theory was that the other three objects which they are having trouble recovering were harmless research balloons and as we previously reported, likely benign. But how can you say that if you also say that you don't even know what they are? Even pilots were "perplexed" by what they saw, with different descriptions of the objects. GOP senators argued that the Biden team has to speak on the objects and what is going on. CBS said the Biden team had ruled out that any of these objects were connected with the U.S. government.
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That whole article sounds like Kamala trying to talk about boiling water. You can see right through their incompetence. I was pretty sure they were 80% evil and 20% stupid. I might have to change that opinion.
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Biden has always been incompetent. Why should anyone think that the people he surrounds himself with are any better? I'm not sure what the exact evil to stupid ratio is but I think the stupid component should be higher. Perhaps a lot higher.
BS. I more believe that Obama lied about being born in Kenya in his autobiography, or even Hillary's fraudulent brief she wrote in Watergate.
Yeah, I fully believe they have or will have the wreckage in hand but that they do not want the public to know what it was they shot down.
How reassuring. Nothing to worry about then.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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