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"Drag is not part of the LGBTQ+ culture" says nobody but those who want to deny that LGBTQ+ culture tries to sexualize children.

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There is no "gay culture" - we come in all sorts of flavors. It's even stupider than saying "white culture" lol.

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If there is no such thing as gay culture, then what exactly is being celebrated at a gay pride event?

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"Drag is not part of the LGBTQ+ culture" says nobody but those who want to deny that LGBTQ+ culture tries to sexualize children.

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There is no "gay culture" - we come in all sorts of flavors. It's even stupider than saying "white culture" lol.

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Of course there is a gay culture. It's hilarious you would claim otherwise. I would post a bunch of links, but suspect you know you are being duplicitous.

Acknowledging a culture does not imply there are not "all sorts of flavors". That is like saying there is no Western Culture because Europeans come in all sorts of flavors.

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"Drag is not part of the LGBTQ+ culture" says nobody but those who want to deny that LGBTQ+ culture tries to sexualize children.

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There is no "gay culture" - we come in all sorts of flavors. It's even stupider than saying "white culture" lol.

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If there isn't any such thing as gay culture, then what exactly is being celebrated at a gay pride event?

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He knows better. He is lying.

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TXAGFAN said:

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"Drag is not part of the LGBTQ+ culture" says nobody but those who want to deny that LGBTQ+ culture tries to sexualize children.

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There is no "gay culture" - we come in all sorts of flavors. It's even stupider than saying "white culture" lol.

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If there isn't any such thing as gay culture, then what exactly is being celebrated at a gay pride event?

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Do you see one type of gay at a pride event? Tell me about all the pride events you've been to. I know a lot of you straights here are gay pride experts because you see the extreme fringes posted on social media. [/eyeroll]

Are you one of the guys holding the giant signs about gays going to hell at them? If so, can see how you may think we speak with one voice. Not much of a spectrum of opinions about those people at a pride event, we're all on same page there.

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"Drag is not part of the LGBTQ+ culture" says nobody but those who want to deny that LGBTQ+ culture tries to sexualize children.

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There is no "gay culture" - we come in all sorts of flavors. It's even stupider than saying "white culture" lol.

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If there isn't any such thing as gay culture, then what exactly is being celebrated at a gay pride event?

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Do you see one type of gay at a pride event? I know a lot of you straights here are gay pride experts because you see the extreme fringes posted on social media. [/eyeroll]

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I'll ask the question again - what are they celebrating if there isn't any social construct (culture) to celebrate? Are they celebrating the physical act(s) of gay sex itself? Seriously, what are these many varied individuals with no common cultural connection celebrating?

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TXAGFAN said:

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RWWilson said:

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"Drag is not part of the LGBTQ+ culture" says nobody but those who want to deny that LGBTQ+ culture tries to sexualize children.

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There is no "gay culture" - we come in all sorts of flavors. It's even stupider than saying "white culture" lol.

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If there isn't any such thing as gay culture, then what exactly is being celebrated at a gay pride event?

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Do you see one type of gay at a pride event? I know a lot of you straights here are gay pride experts because you see the extreme fringes posted on social media. [/eyeroll]

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I'll ask the question again - what are they celebrating if there isn't any social construct (culture) to celebrate? Are they celebrating the physical act(s) of gay sex itself? Seriously, what are these many varied individuals with no common cultural connection celebrating?

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This should be interesting.

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TXAGFAN said:

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agent-maroon said:

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TXAGFAN said:

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RWWilson said:

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"Drag is not part of the LGBTQ+ culture" says nobody but those who want to deny that LGBTQ+ culture tries to sexualize children.

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There is no "gay culture" - we come in all sorts of flavors. It's even stupider than saying "white culture" lol.

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If there isn't any such thing as gay culture, then what exactly is being celebrated at a gay pride event?

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Do you see one type of gay at a pride event? I know a lot of you straights here are gay pride experts because you see the extreme fringes posted on social media. [/eyeroll]

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You are pretending not to understand the definition of culture. It does not demand homogeneity. But again, you know better and are simply trying to deflect from the LGBTQ+ sexualization of children.

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Youre making a very compelling argument, the video you posted in OP has ONE gay man and TWO children as evidence of this movement you convinced yourself is happening.

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TXAGFAN said:

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RWWilson said:

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"Drag is not part of the LGBTQ+ culture" says nobody but those who want to deny that LGBTQ+ culture tries to sexualize children.

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There is no "gay culture" - we come in all sorts of flavors. It's even stupider than saying "white culture" lol.

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If there isn't any such thing as gay culture, then what exactly is being celebrated at a gay pride event?

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Do you see one type of gay at a pride event? I know a lot of you straights here are gay pride experts because you see the extreme fringes posted on social media. [/eyeroll]

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I'll ask the question again - what are they celebrating if there isn't any social construct (culture) to celebrate? Are they celebrating the physical act(s) of gay sex itself? Seriously, what are these many varied individuals with no common cultural connection celebrating?

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I thought you were upset at the connotation that you made yourself in post and my characterization of your post, yet you ask this? No, you don't get to have it both ways. Embrace who you are, don't deny it.

What I am is someone looking for some context for a gay pride celebration. What are they proud of? Have you ever been to a gay pride celebration? If so, what was YOUR take on what the celebration was about?

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What I am is someone looking for some context for a gay pride celebration. What are they proud of? Have you ever been to a gay pride celebration? If so, what was YOUR take on what the celebration was about?

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Pride is and remains a protest at its core imo.

I don't have to justify it to you of all people with your comments above. Your mind is made up.

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What I am is someone looking for some context for a gay pride celebration. What are they proud of? Have you ever been to a gay pride celebration? If so, what was YOUR take on what the celebration was about?

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Pride is and remains a protest at its core imo.

I don't have to justify it to you of all people with your comments above. Your mind is made up.

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Thank you for your answer. Follow up question - a protest of what?

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RWWilson said:

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TXAGFAN said:

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RWWilson said:

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"Drag is not part of the LGBTQ+ culture" says nobody but those who want to deny that LGBTQ+ culture tries to sexualize children.

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There is no "gay culture" - we come in all sorts of flavors. It's even stupider than saying "white culture" lol.

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If there isn't any such thing as gay culture, then what exactly is being celebrated at a gay pride event?

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Do you see one type of gay at a pride event? I know a lot of you straights here are gay pride experts because you see the extreme fringes posted on social media. [/eyeroll]

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You are pretending not to understand the definition of culture. It does not demand homogeneity. But again, you know better and are simply trying to deflect from the LGBTQ+ sexualization of children.

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Youre making a very compelling argument, the video you posted in OP has ONE gay man and TWO children as evidence of this movement you convinced yourself is happening.

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I wasn't OP. I didn't post a video. Your head is spinning and you are confused.

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agent-maroon said:

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TXAGFAN said:

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RWWilson said:

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"Drag is not part of the LGBTQ+ culture" says nobody but those who want to deny that LGBTQ+ culture tries to sexualize children.

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There is no "gay culture" - we come in all sorts of flavors. It's even stupider than saying "white culture" lol.

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If there isn't any such thing as gay culture, then what exactly is being celebrated at a gay pride event?

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Do you see one type of gay at a pride event? I know a lot of you straights here are gay pride experts because you see the extreme fringes posted on social media. [/eyeroll]

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You are pretending not to understand the definition of culture. It does not demand homogeneity. But again, you know better and are simply trying to deflect from the LGBTQ+ sexualization of children.

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Youre making a very compelling argument, the video you posted in OP has ONE gay man and TWO children as evidence of this movement you convinced yourself is happening.

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I wasn't OP. I didn't post a video. Your head is spinning and you are confused.

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This thread and your commentary is in response to Op, no?

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What I am is someone looking for some context for a gay pride celebration. What are they proud of? Have you ever been to a gay pride celebration? If so, what was YOUR take on what the celebration was about?

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Pride is and remains a protest at its core imo.

I don't have to justify it to you of all people with your comments above. Your mind is made up.

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So the Pride Night at every NHL, NBA, and MLB venue is a protest? I'm dying.

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What I am is someone looking for some context for a gay pride celebration. What are they proud of? Have you ever been to a gay pride celebration? If so, what was YOUR take on what the celebration was about?

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Pride is and remains a protest at its core imo.

I don't have to justify it to you of all people with your comments above. Your mind is made up.

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So the Pride Night at every NHL, NBA, and MLB venue is a protest? I'm dying.

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That is corporate pandering for gay dollars, but I'll take it over bigoted hate speech.

TXAGFAN said:

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TXAGFAN said:

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agent-maroon said:

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TXAGFAN said:

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RWWilson said:

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"Drag is not part of the LGBTQ+ culture" says nobody but those who want to deny that LGBTQ+ culture tries to sexualize children.

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There is no "gay culture" - we come in all sorts of flavors. It's even stupider than saying "white culture" lol.

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If there isn't any such thing as gay culture, then what exactly is being celebrated at a gay pride event?

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Do you see one type of gay at a pride event? I know a lot of you straights here are gay pride experts because you see the extreme fringes posted on social media. [/eyeroll]

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You are pretending not to understand the definition of culture. It does not demand homogeneity. But again, you know better and are simply trying to deflect from the LGBTQ+ sexualization of children.

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Youre making a very compelling argument, the video you posted in OP has ONE gay man and TWO children as evidence of this movement you convinced yourself is happening.

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I wasn't OP. I didn't post a video. Your head is spinning and you are confused.

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This thread and your commentary is in response to Op, no?

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You said "the video YOU posted in OP". I did not post a video in the original post. Again, you are confused. I'm also amused that you claim pride parades and pride days, and pride nights, and pride month, are a protest. That actually made me laugh out loud, so thanks for that.

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What I am is someone looking for some context for a gay pride celebration. What are they proud of? Have you ever been to a gay pride celebration? If so, what was YOUR take on what the celebration was about?

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Pride is and remains a protest at its core imo.

I don't have to justify it to you of all people with your comments above. Your mind is made up.

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So the Pride Night at every NHL, NBA, and MLB venue is a protest? I'm dying.

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Sounds like a group that just can't be happy doesn't it.

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What I am is someone looking for some context for a gay pride celebration. What are they proud of? Have you ever been to a gay pride celebration? If so, what was YOUR take on what the celebration was about?

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Pride is and remains a protest at its core imo.

I don't have to justify it to you of all people with your comments above. Your mind is made up.

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So the Pride Night at every NHL, NBA, and MLB venue is a protest? I'm dying.

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Sounds like a group that just can't be happy doesn't it.

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Why do you bother posting, you can't backup your most basic claims about other posters.

So sick. Little kids giving those pervs dollar bills at 50sec mark

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TXAGFAN said:

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RWWilson said:

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"Drag is not part of the LGBTQ+ culture" says nobody but those who want to deny that LGBTQ+ culture tries to sexualize children.

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There is no "gay culture" - we come in all sorts of flavors. It's even stupider than saying "white culture" lol.

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If there isn't any such thing as gay culture, then what exactly is being celebrated at a gay pride event?

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Do you see one type of gay at a pride event? I know a lot of you straights here are gay pride experts because you see the extreme fringes posted on social media. [/eyeroll]

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You are pretending not to understand the definition of culture. It does not demand homogeneity. But again, you know better and are simply trying to deflect from the LGBTQ+ sexualization of children.

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Youre making a very compelling argument, the video you posted in OP has ONE gay man and TWO children as evidence of this movement you convinced yourself is happening.

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I wasn't OP. I didn't post a video. Your head is spinning and you are confused.

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This thread and your commentary is in response to Op, no?

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You said "the video YOU posted in OP". I did not post a video in the original post. Again, you are confused. I'm also amused that you claim pride parades and pride days, and pride nights, and pride month, are a protest. That actually made me laugh out loud, so thanks for that.

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I don't think pride is for you, that's for sure. Will watch for you with the angry signs at my next pride.

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agent-maroon said:

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TXAGFAN said:

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"Drag is not part of the LGBTQ+ culture" says nobody but those who want to deny that LGBTQ+ culture tries to sexualize children.

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There is no "gay culture" - we come in all sorts of flavors. It's even stupider than saying "white culture" lol.

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If there isn't any such thing as gay culture, then what exactly is being celebrated at a gay pride event?

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Do you see one type of gay at a pride event? I know a lot of you straights here are gay pride experts because you see the extreme fringes posted on social media. [/eyeroll]

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You are pretending not to understand the definition of culture. It does not demand homogeneity. But again, you know better and are simply trying to deflect from the LGBTQ+ sexualization of children.

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Youre making a very compelling argument, the video you posted in OP has ONE gay man and TWO children as evidence of this movement you convinced yourself is happening.

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I wasn't OP. I didn't post a video. Your head is spinning and you are confused.

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This thread and your commentary is in response to Op, no?

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You said "the video YOU posted in OP". I did not post a video in the original post. Again, you are confused. I'm also amused that you claim pride parades and pride days, and pride nights, and pride month, are a protest. That actually made me laugh out loud, so thanks for that.

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I don't think pride is for you, that's for sure. Will watch for you with the angry signs at my next pride.

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What will you be protesting next?

ETA - maybe those angry sign holders are just there to protest since that is what the core value of the event is all about? We've already established that there is no common culture, just a protest

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"Drag is not part of the LGBTQ+ culture" says nobody but those who want to deny that LGBTQ+ culture tries to sexualize children.

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There is no "gay culture" - we come in all sorts of flavors. It's even stupider than saying "white culture" lol.

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If there isn't any such thing as gay culture, then what exactly is being celebrated at a gay pride event?

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Do you see one type of gay at a pride event? I know a lot of you straights here are gay pride experts because you see the extreme fringes posted on social media. [/eyeroll]

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You are pretending not to understand the definition of culture. It does not demand homogeneity. But again, you know better and are simply trying to deflect from the LGBTQ+ sexualization of children.

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Youre making a very compelling argument, the video you posted in OP has ONE gay man and TWO children as evidence of this movement you convinced yourself is happening.

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I wasn't OP. I didn't post a video. Your head is spinning and you are confused.

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This thread and your commentary is in response to Op, no?

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You said "the video YOU posted in OP". I did not post a video in the original post. Again, you are confused. I'm also amused that you claim pride parades and pride days, and pride nights, and pride month, are a protest. That actually made me laugh out loud, so thanks for that.

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I don't think pride is for you, that's for sure. Will watch for you with the angry signs at my next pride.

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What will you be protesting next?

ETA - maybe those angry sign holders are just there to protest since that is what the core value of the event is all about? We've already established that there is no common culture, just a protest

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Theyre allowed to be there, did you see me say they weren't?

Fair enough. What will YOU be protesting?

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What I am is someone looking for some context for a gay pride celebration. What are they proud of? Have you ever been to a gay pride celebration? If so, what was YOUR take on what the celebration was about?

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Pride is and remains a protest at its core imo.

I don't have to justify it to you of all people with your comments above. Your mind is made up.

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So the Pride Night at every NHL, NBA, and MLB venue is a protest? I'm dying.

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That is corporate pandering for gay dollars, but I'll take it over bigoted hate speech.

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TXAGFAN definition of "protest":

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What I am is someone looking for some context for a gay pride celebration. What are they proud of? Have you ever been to a gay pride celebration? If so, what was YOUR take on what the celebration was about?

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Pride is and remains a protest at its core imo.

I don't have to justify it to you of all people with your comments above. Your mind is made up.

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So the Pride Night at every NHL, NBA, and MLB venue is a protest? I'm dying.

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That is corporate pandering for gay dollars, but I'll take it over bigoted hate speech.

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TXAGFAN definition of "protest":

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When a poster who thinks our existence is an abomination posts those photos, you're making my point.

Where did he say anything about an abomination? All I see are protestors. Really happy, scantily clad, celebratory protestors.

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Where did he say anything about an abomination? All I see are protestors. Really happy, scantily clad, celebratory protestors.

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You think this is first exchange with RWWilson?

Those people aren't wearing a lot of clothes, but it's as much as many people wear at a pool.

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When a poster who thinks our existence is an abomination posts those photos, you're making my point.

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Are those pictures of a "protest"? You are lying and you know you are lying. You can't help yourself. If you believe those are pictures of "protests" as you claim, then you are the only person who believes so. There is a gay culture. Everyone knows it. Most gays admit it. You deny it because you don't want to acknowledge that LGBTQ+ culture promotes the sexualization of children.

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When a poster who thinks our existence is an abomination posts those photos, you're making my point.

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Are those pictures of a "protest"? You are lying and you know you are lying. You can't help yourself. If you believe those are pictures of "protests" as you claim, then you are the only person who believes so. There is a gay culture. Everyone knows it. Most gays admit it. You deny it because you don't want to acknowledge that LGBTQ+ culture promotes the sexualization of children.

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For some of you our existence is a problem, so yes I'd say it's a protest. Sorry they not at Bible study with Bonfire1996 lamenting their existence.

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Where did he say anything about an abomination? All I see are protestors. Really happy, scantily clad, celebratory protestors.

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You think this is first exchange with RWWilson?

Those people aren't wearing a lot of clothes, but it's as much as many people wear at a pool.

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They aren't at a pool, they are at a protest.

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Well that guy deserves some blame too. To give that toast when he knew kids were present? Trashy.

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You know what would really stop the criticism of the gays and drag? Refuse to perform if children are present.

And that toast was more than trashy. It was lewd and vile. He acknowledged the children in the room and still gave the toast. WTF???

Just once, I'd like to see a gay man who posts here say that drag is 100% inappropriate for children and vehemently protest against these events. Just once. But it's always gentle disapproval and excuse making at best.

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He did in this thread


Absolutely unacceptable. I just do not understand parents who bring their kids to stuff like this. Drag shows are adult entertainment and belong in spaces appropriate for such.

That said, it doesn't look to me like they advertised the event as "family friendly" so I'm not sure where that came from. That may be an attempt to suggest this was targeted at kids, and I don't think that's true. This is squarely on the parents, IMO.

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Just once, I'd like to see a gay man who posts here say that drag is 100% inappropriate for children and vehemently protest against these events. Just once. But it's always gentle disapproval and excuse making at best.

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MAYBE that's because these events are used to spin a completely untrue damaging narrative about gay people and people like you want to believe that narrative so bad you don't care about the facts - like if this was ever advertised as a family friendly event. You just believe EVERYTHING you see on internet. You're being manipulated to hate a group who wasn't even really at this event comprised of 90% adult women and a couple kids.

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I will say the people to be pissed at are the irresponsible mothers.

That video is awful. Wtf