I support the police but this is insane. This happened in South Austin.

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2012heisman
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2012heisman
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body cam:

TheMasterplan
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Sorry - tragic stuff but who/what was the guy defending against? It looks like he's just standing outside his place with a rifle and also shooting inside his own home?

Depending on whether or not the guy was pointing the gun at the cop, he should've been given a chance to put the gun down.
BaileyAg
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I'm going to 24 hrs on this one.
Firing at his house???
I will wait and see
BaileyAg
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What was insane?
2012heisman
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Terrible situation all around. Doubt he would have ever felt the need to purchase a firearm if Jose Garza didn't absolutely destroy public safety in Austin. Austin has a record murder rate two years in a row after defunding the police. Just terrible.
cslifer
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From what little bit of his behavior we can see in that clip this appears to be a mental health crisis that went downhill in a hurry. I am very interested to see the ring doorbell footage of when he was shot, pure speculation on my part but I wouldn't be surprised in the least if it shows him pointing that rifle towards the officers.
ShotOver
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OP, I wonder if you still feel the same way after viewing the ring and body cam video? Police are not the bad guys here…
The Fall Guy
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Don't believe this crap. Nobody was in the house. He was known to take "pills". They don't say what type of pills.
torrid
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If you don't want to listen to the video:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562195/It-wasnt-said-Austin-tech-entrepreneur-Raj-Moonesinghe-shot-dead-police.html
fixer
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I'd like to know what dispatch told the officers.

If you are the responding officer under the assumption that a burglary is in progress and there are shots fired, likely heard one of those shots, then you are going to be inherently oriented to using maximum deadly force… especially when you encounter someone on the outside, emphasis on outside, the home with a rifle, and remembering you likely heard rifle rounds on way to call.
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It happened on Nov 15
dead
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Blaming the victim
Tom_Fox
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WTF was he outside his house shooting a rifle back into his home? That is not normal homeowner behavior. He is also behaving erratically on the video.
Who?mikejones!
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dead said:

Blaming the victim


Random dude shooting off ar15 high on Xanax who is in some sort of mental health crisis is totally safe to be around.

dead
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I'd love to know how you can tell he was high on Xanax and experiencing a mental health crisis.
Seamaster
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Tom_Fox said:

WTF was he outside his house shooting a rifle back into his home? That is not normal homeowner behavior. He is also behaving erratically on the video.

Yeah....this one isn't very straight forward. I don't think we can fault the officer for assuming the guy with the AR unloading rounds towards the door is the good guy.

I guess we expect the officer to wait and try to figure it out?
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Across the street from his home, a private security guard for his neighbor had already called the police to report what Moonesinghe was doing.

The guard said in a call to a dispatcher: 'He almost seems to be scared of something inside his house.

'He's pointing the rifle at the interior of his home,' he said, before Moonesinghe called into his living room and fired shots inside.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562195/It-wasnt-said-Austin-tech-entrepreneur-Raj-Moonesinghe-shot-dead-police.html
Who?mikejones!
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I'll admit I can't prove the drugs.

But watch the video. The dude is mumbling about nothing, shooting multiple rounds into his own home. There's was talk when this first happened about drug side affects causing episodes like the o e seen here.

I don't see how any approaching officer would not consider this guy an immediate threat to himself and anyone else.


Might not be the cleanest shoo but there's been far far far worse shoots by cops.

Anyway, it doesn't appear you'd change your opinion no matter what the "victim" did or didn't do or whether his behavior was influenced by drugs or not.
dead
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For starters, the cop could've waited for Moonesinghe to respond rather than start firing immediately after.

I did watch the video, and his "mumbling" sounded like "You want this?".
The Fall Guy
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dead said:

I'd love to know how you can tell he was high on Xanax and experiencing a mental health crisis.


Because the news on Nov 15th here in Austin said relatives mentioned had sleep issues and was on pills!

Those comments ts have since been erased because they want to blame the cop for money.

No Spin Ag
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Can't watch the video right now, but did the cops try using a tazer before using their guns or was that not even an option at that point?
dead
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Find a link and I'll take back what I said.
dead
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Cop rounds the fence, yells "Drop the gun", less than a second later starts firing across the yard.
Tom_Fox
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No Spin Ag said:

Can't watch the video right now, but did the cops try using a tazer before using their guns or was that not even an option at that point?
I'm not tasing a guy actively firing an AR15. I would have only considered 2 viable options. (1) Retreat to actual cover and try to give commands, or (2) smoke the guy shooting the AR15.
No Spin Ag
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Tom_Fox said:

No Spin Ag said:

Can't watch the video right now, but did the cops try using a tazer before using their guns or was that not even an option at that point?
I'm not tasing a guy actively firing an AR15. I would have only considered 2 viable options. (1) Retreat to actual cover and try to give commands, or (2) smoke the guy shooting the AR15.


Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying for me.
aggie93
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It's tragic but if you go outside shooting an AR15 in a suburban neighborhood and acting weird that's a great way to get shot yourself. It's certainly reasonable the cops felt like this guy was a threat.

Seems more like a "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" situation. Also very likely the guy was on some meds which is sad but that's not up to the cops. Their job is public safety and while I am sure you can break this down and over analyze it to find fault in the end the dude was shooting an AR15 in a residential neighborhood and acting irrationally. When you do that your personal safety becomes less important than the safety of others. Yes, that's blaming the victim because the victim created this situation.
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Dimebag Darrell
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2012heisman said:

body cam:


This is absolutely horrible, but it looks like kind of a freak deal. He is firing shots into his own home...I cannot blame cops for rolling up and taking someone out in that scenario thinking the homeowner is under attack. If that's indeed how it played out.

Just awful no matter what.
Dimebag Darrell
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dead said:

I'd love to know how you can tell he was high on Xanax and experiencing a mental health crisis.
Even if he was 100% sober and completely sane, if I'm a cop and roll up on this type of call and see a dude firing into a house, I am pretty much automatically assuming he is the violent attacker and shooting him might be saving a life.
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No Spin Ag said:

Can't watch the video right now, but did the cops try using a tazer before using their guns or was that not even an option at that point?
No offense, but all too often, this is how the left thinks. It's completely unrealistic. Not quite "why don't they just shoot the gun out of his hand?" unrealistic. But still, a taser against a man with a 30rd semi-automatic rifle is just absurd. You are making a huge gamble with your life. No one in their right mind would do that. It's like signing up to fist fight a guy with an axe. Maybe even more dangerous.
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I just opened the thread to see if this was another sip coach, a la Beard/sark after dark/Mr. pole assassin/Augie/Opie etc. Those guys can be a danger to the community, to be sure (RIP Augie).
Some Junkie Cosmonaut
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dead said:

Blaming the victim


Homie was firing off rounds into his house from the front porch and this is your response.

You live in la la land.
dead
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I guess you're cool with cops killing people protecting their property
AggieVictor10
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Cops
hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. good times create weak men. and weak men create hard times.

less virtue signaling, more vice signaling.

Birds aren’t real
Lol,lmao
93MarineHorn
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I guess you're cool with cops killing people protecting their property
Are you as stupid in real life as you are on F16? Cuz the above is really stupid.
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