jrdaustin said:Again, university professors can say what they wish, as long as challenging their ideas is also fair game in the classroom. If they are postulating an idea, and then allow no discussion, dissention, or questioning of that idea; followed by a grading system in which agreement with that idea is required in order to receive a passing grade, can you not see where the environment has moved from an educational one to one of indoctrination?Admiral Adama said:Jarrin' Jay said:
What we allow / do not allow ISD / quasi-government employees to teach kids in school has nothing to do with free speech or the first amendment...
That is not what this ruling is about. It's about what university professors are allowed to say in their classroom.
According to the law, no they can't do the above bolded on 8 things Florida says are no-nos. They can speak academically about something like affirmative action, but must not hold or espouse a position. It's not about grading fairly (which should be a default position) it's about saying what a professor can and cannot espouse in their classroom. Here's a snippet from the ruling:
The IFA also included a so-called "savings clause,"6 which states that the foregoing "may not be construed to prohibit discussion of the concepts listed therein as part of a larger course of training or instruction, provided such training or instruction is given in an objective manner without endorsement of the concepts." 1000.05(4)(b), Fla. Stat. (2022). Thus, professors may "discuss" the eight concepts listed above in class, but they must do so "in an objective manner" and "without endorsement of the concepts."