PA24 said:

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I think he has killed many times before.

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What makes you suspect this? Given the details - all the time he put into his initial casing…seems like a first for him.

Idaho murders suspect Bryan Kohberger allegedly stalked another female student months before massacre: report

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In the most ominous claim, it was suggested Kohberger's immediate family feared he might be the suspect as they gathered for the holidays.

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One of Kohberger's sisters allegedly found his behavior back in Pennsylvania odd and pieced together his connection to his white Elantra and previous proximity to the November crime scene.

She even apparently floated the idea to the family that Kohberger was the suspect.

"If his family did allegedly suspect him before he was arrested, I would hope they approached law enforcement, but I understand from long experience how much hindsight factors in," said Rawson.

Kohberger's relatives went outside to search his car according to the Dateline report, but it had already been cleaned up.

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Edited to add quotes. I hadn't heard about his family suspecting him.

This guy is such a weirdo creep wannabe bundy. Im sure this idiot is loving all the attention he gets

Ok thanks. I'm usually on a mobile.

agcrock2005 said:

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Idaho murders suspect Bryan Kohberger allegedly stalked another female student months before massacre: report

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In the most ominous claim, it was suggested Kohberger's immediate family feared he might be the suspect as they gathered for the holidays.

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One of Kohberger's sisters allegedly found his behavior back in Pennsylvania odd and pieced together his connection to his white Elantra and previous proximity to the November crime scene.

She even apparently floated the idea to the family that Kohberger was the suspect.

"If his family did allegedly suspect him before he was arrested, I would hope they approached law enforcement, but I understand from long experience how much hindsight factors in," said Rawson.

Kohberger's relatives went outside to search his car according to the Dateline report, but it had already been cleaned up.

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Edited to add quotes. I hadn't heard about his family suspecting him.

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wow...that would also explain maybe why his dad drove back with him and why they haven't said a lot in terms of believing his innocence, etc.

Bexar Ag said:

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This guy is such a weirdo creep wannabe bundy. Im sure this idiot is loving all the attention he gets

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He is going to revel in the trial coverage even knowing he is going to get thrown in jail for the rest of his life.

I see guys like this as people that are total failures at being men(or women). And then wonder how it's possible for anyone to fail at life so completely.

Madman said:

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I see guys like this as people that are total failures at being men(or women). And then wonder how it's possible for anyone to fail at life so completely.

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EDB is live now discussing the case.

aggiehawg said:

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EDB is live now discussing the case.

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I do wish I didn't find her so darn irritating bc I think she's got a good handle on the law unfortunately her incessant complaining and voice...just cant do it.

$240 Worth of Pudding said:

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Madman said:

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I see guys like this as people that are total failures at being men(or women). And then wonder how it's possible for anyone to fail at life so completely.

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I'm still better than BK. If only a little bit.

She's not everybody's cup of tea but her legal analysis is pretty good. And in this case, with the gag order the docket is hard to follow for people like me as there is no rhyme nor reason as to when things suddenly appear. So I rely on her to comment when they do.

Are you familar with Peter Tragos? The Lawyer You Know guy? He's also covering this case. He might be more to your liking. He tends to have shorter vids as well.

Why did Bryan Kohberger stand silent?

That’s the question everyone is asking. We’ll continue to help put some of the pieces together, but let us know what you think in the comments below.#idaho4 #BryanKohberger #LawyerYouKnow pic.twitter.com/VPrffzUJ0k

— Lawyer You Know (@TragosLaw) May 23, 2023

Trial is expected to cost taxpayers $12M, since they're paying both sides. That's before any appeals process. Such B.S. that taxpayers are required to fund a super defense team for this creep. He should be entitled to a public defender and nothing more. If he's not guilty then it should be easy enough to prove without crime lab work, private investigators, 3 attorneys and a litany of support staff.

cheeky said:

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Trial is expected to cost taxpayers $12M, since they're paying both sides. That's before any appeals process. Such B.S. that taxpayers are required to fund a super defense team for this creep. He should be entitled to a public defender and nothing more. If he's not guilty then it should be easy enough to prove without crime lab work, private investigators, 3 attorneys and a litany of support staff.

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It still could be a death penalty case. There are rules and protocols for PDs who do DP cases and that includes investigators and at least two DP certified attorneys.

aggiehawg said:

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cheeky said:

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Trial is expected to cost taxpayers $12M, since they're paying both sides. That's before any appeals process. Such B.S. that taxpayers are required to fund a super defense team for this creep. He should be entitled to a public defender and nothing more. If he's not guilty then it should be easy enough to prove without crime lab work, private investigators, 3 attorneys and a litany of support staff.

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It still could be a death penalty case. There are rules and protocols for PDs who do DP cases and that includes investigatos and at least two DP certified attorneys.

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I'm aware, but it's still B.S.

Stupid guess, but, any chance his voice being publicly available if he had of spoken in court could be used to help identify him if they ask the surviving roommate?

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Stupid guess, but, any chance his voice being publicly available if he had of spoken in court could be used to help identify him if they ask the surviving roommate?

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I don't remember the roommate who saw him walk by, hearing his voice?

Did I miss something?

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AggiePetro07 said:

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Stupid guess, but, any chance his voice being publicly available if he had of spoken in court could be used to help identify him if they ask the surviving roommate?

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I don't remember the roommate who saw him walk by, hearing his voice?

Did I miss something?

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I don't remember, but I thought she heard someone "comforting" Xana.

Aah. I had forgotten about that. Thanks for the reminder. But voice recognition isn't terribly strong evidence unless he has a very distinctive voice, like James Earl Jones or Trace Adkins. Particularly true when the sounds are behind closed doors.

I am not, but thanks, I will give him a listen.

He did speak in court. He said something to the effect of "yes I understand" a couple times.

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Ok thanks. I'm usually on a mobile.

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You can do it on mobile as well. At least I can on Microsoft edge for android. Just pull up your watchlist and then click on "edit" under "topics I've replied to."

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He did speak in court. He said something to the effect of "yes I understand" a couple times.

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At arraignments, the judge asks defendants if they understand the charges against them. Only the defendant can answer, counsel cannot answer for them. But that requirement does not extend to the actual plea itself.

Thanks. I guess I haven't noticed that column before!!

MsDoubleD81 said:

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He did speak in court. He said something to the effect of "yes I understand" a couple times.

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Well, thanks for confirming it was a dumb thought.

I am curious if he's told his attorney that he did it?

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I am curious if he's told his attorney that he did it?

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My guess is no. He asserted his innocence to his PA counsel when he was first arrested before he was extradited to Idaho. And then that lawyer inexplicably went on a PR tour publicly talking about the case, violating attorney client privilege on several occasions.

Ms Hawg, would love your opinion. One thing I just don't think I've seen anything talked about is his behavior. I know as a kid, if I got accused of something and I didn't do it, I let EVERYONE know it. I fussed and fussed about it because I didn't want the accusation.

This guy hasn't said a word. Hasn't professed his innocence. Hasn't screamed that they've got the wrong guy. Does that typically lean towards guilt? Innocence? He's been in jail for months and is seemingly ok with it. I realize gag order and capital offense, but I'd scream for bail due to innocence. You know because of innocent until proven guilty. Sorry, just curious.

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Ms Hawg, would love your opinion. One thing I just don't think I've seen anything talked about is his behavior. I know as a kid, if I got accused of something and I didn't do it, I let EVERYONE know it. I fussed and fussed about it because I didn't want the accusation.

This guy hasn't said a word. Hasn't professed his innocence. Hasn't screamed that they've got the wrong guy. Does that typically lean towards guilt? Innocence? He's been in jail for months and is seemingly ok with it. I realize gag order and capital offense, but I'd scream for bail due to innocence. You know because of innocent until proven guilty. Sorry, just curious.

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There are a couple of things at play on why he's not out on bail. He's a flight risk obviously. Also due to the heinous nature of the crimes of which he is accused, his safety were he released on bail and ordered to stay in Moscow, he mightbe subject to attack. So he's being held without bail.

He's just a goofy guy as well. Didn't have a lot of friends. As for his silence, unfair to draw any impressions about a criminal defendant exercising their 5th Amendment rights. My understanding of the protocols for potential death penalty cases is that defense counsel will have a psych evaluation done, not only to establish competency to stand trial but whether there is a potential insanity or diminished capacity claim. Apparently those do not apply since there was no mention of that at the arraignment yesterday.

Lastly but most importantly, there is an extensive gag order in this case. So even if in theory he wanted to give interviews or speak out through his attorneys, that order prohibits it.

Got it, thank you for the clarification.

For the crime sleuths on here, why do you think he did it? And were all four his intended targets?

Edited to add... not only all that, but he has enough knowledge of the criminal justice system (was in a PhD program of course) he knows that nothing good ever comes out of saying anything. It is not like they are going to let him go if he protests enough and tries to convince him he is innocent. Cardinal rule... don't talk to the police. Right?

My thoughts, he had a thing for Maddie. The other 3 were unexpected and he had to cover his tracks.

Regarding the sheath, I think he had it attached to him, and it got knocked off in a struggle.

Well this is interesting.

Bryan Kohberger's parents called before grand jury in Pennsylvania woman's death: reports

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The parents of Bryan Kohberger, Michael and Maryann Kohberger, were called to testify in front of a Pennsylvania grand jury this week in connection with the May 2022 disappearance of a woman found dead in April, according to local reports.

Almost a year later, her remains were recovered in Stroudsburg a Poconos community about a 30-minute drive from the Kohberger family home in Albrightsville.

The suspected killer has a "good alibi" in Smithers' case, according to the Wilkes-Barre-based WBRE/WYOU, citing a source close to the case.

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What is most interesting to me is that there is a sharing order for this grand jury proceeding specifically with the authorities in Moscow, Idaho. So there apparently is some perceived connection with the case in PA.

What that may be, IDK but that means that whatever his parents say during their grand jury testimony can be used as impeachment if they are called in the Idaho trial.