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I just feel so bad for Dylan, and not because she's being vilified in all this. There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life. She's blessed and lucky to be alive, but the life she knew and had will never be familiar to her again.

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Terrible weight to carry, but it's not like she could have prevented any of it from happening. I think everyone was dead by the time she laid eyes on BK. Maybe if she had more fully realized what was going on, 911 would have been called sooner.

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zgolfz85 said:

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I just feel so bad for Dylan, and not because she's being vilified in all this. There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life. She's blessed and lucky to be alive, but the life she knew and had will never be familiar to her again.

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Terrible weight to carry, but it's not like she could have prevented any of it from happening. I think everyone was dead by the time she laid eyes on BK. Maybe if she had more fully realized what was going on, 911 would have been called sooner.

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That's not how Survivor's Guilt works. You aren't actually guilty of anything in trying to stop it- which is why it was first diagnosed for Holocaust Survivors.

Survivor's guilt (sometimes referred to as "survivor syndrome") refers to the psychological condition of someone who witnessed or was involved in a traumatic event that may have harmed co-workers or victims but left the affected individual relatively unscathed.

The affected individual, however, is impacted by the often-crippling emotional scars that resulted from witnessing the traumatic event. Often, someone with survivor's guilt will question, "Why not me?" or "What should I have done differently?". Survivor's guilt is often classified as a serious symptom of PTSD.

Symptoms will vary between people, both in what specific symptoms they experience and the severity of the symptoms. Symptoms will also vary depending on the traumatic event they experienced. The most common symptoms of survivor's guilt mimic those of PTSD and can include:

• Guilt for surviving when others did not
• Obsessive over analysis of their actions during the event
• Mood swings and angry outbursts
• Feelings of helplessness
• Social problems or isolation
• Suicidal thoughts
• Trouble sleeping
• Lack of motivation and depression

zgolfz85 said:

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I just feel so bad for Dylan, and not because she's being vilified in all this. There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life. She's blessed and lucky to be alive, but the life she knew and had will never be familiar to her again.

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I don't understand these statements at all. She will process this in her own way and likely move on with life. Yes, it will be with her the rest of her life. But some of you act like this is so emotionally crippling that people cannot cope with this kind of evil.

I'm here to tell you people can and do get on with their lives after horrific tragedies.

Must be a generational thing.

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zgolfz85 said:

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I just feel so bad for Dylan, and not because she's being vilified in all this. There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life. She's blessed and lucky to be alive, but the life she knew and had will never be familiar to her again.

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I don't understand these statements at all. She will process this in her own way and likely move on with life. Yes, it will be with her the rest of her life. But some of you act like this is so emotionally crippling that people cannot cope with this kind of evil.

I'm here to tell you people can and do get on with their lives after horrific tragedies.

Must be a generational thing.

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And others, especially younger generations....like a 20 yr old college girls, could spiral it into a deep depression, drug habits, alcoholism etc.

I dont understand your statement. Just because some people can overcome trauma doesn't mean everyone can and most who struggle with it ARE the younger generations which is what this case would be.

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Bird Poo said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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I just feel so bad for Dylan, and not because she's being vilified in all this. There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life. She's blessed and lucky to be alive, but the life she knew and had will never be familiar to her again.

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I don't understand these statements at all. She will process this in her own way and likely move on with life. Yes, it will be with her the rest of her life. But some of you act like this is so emotionally crippling that people cannot cope with this kind of evil.

I'm here to tell you people can and do get on with their lives after horrific tragedies.

Must be a generational thing.

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There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life

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When people make absolute statements like the above, I'm gonna call BS. You can wring your hands the rest of your life or get on with it. But this incessant need to act like the world is over is childish.

Believe it or not, evil worse than this happens every day on this earth. Living in terror the rest of your life solves nothing.

You're right. She should crawl in a hole. Perhaps enter a mental institution? Her life is over. There is no point in living, raising a family, or perhaps teach others how to deal with something like this.

Seriously, who do you think you are to project your ideas of how someone should act after this? Shame on you.

This is the last time I'm replying to people who project their virtue signaling on the victims of this crime.

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Bird Poo said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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I just feel so bad for Dylan, and not because she's being vilified in all this. There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life. She's blessed and lucky to be alive, but the life she knew and had will never be familiar to her again.

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I don't understand these statements at all. She will process this in her own way and likely move on with life. Yes, it will be with her the rest of her life. But some of you act like this is so emotionally crippling that people cannot cope with this kind of evil.

I'm here to tell you people can and do get on with their lives after horrific tragedies.

Must be a generational thing.

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There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life

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When people make absolute statements like the above, I'm gonna call BS. You can wring your hands the rest of your life or get on with it. But this incessant need to act like the world is over is childish.

Believe it or not, evil worse than this happens every day on this earth. Living in terror the rest of your life solves nothing.

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LOL

so the answer to 47,466 suicides in the United States in 2021 (it's even worse in 2022)

is to just get over an incessant need to act like the world is over.

Statistics on Suicide CDC

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You're right. She should crawl in a hole. Perhaps enter a mental institution? Her life is over. There is no point in living, raising a family, or perhaps teach others how to deal with something like this.

Seriously, who do you think you are to project your ideas of how someone should act after this? Shame on you.

This is the last time I'm replying to people who project their virtue signaling on the victims of this crime.

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Please go up and show me where I said anything like that? You "poopooed" your bird poo on someone saying this is going to be something she struggles with the rest of her life. Its not black and white man. But this is not something you just get over, move on from and never think about again

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zgolfz85 said:

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I just feel so bad for Dylan, and not because she's being vilified in all this. There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life. She's blessed and lucky to be alive, but the life she knew and had will never be familiar to her again.

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I don't understand these statements at all. She will process this in her own way and likely move on with life. Yes, it will be with her the rest of her life. But some of you act like this is so emotionally crippling that people cannot cope with this kind of evil.

I'm here to tell you people can and do get on with their lives after horrific tragedies.

Must be a generational thing.

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There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life

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When people make absolute statements like the above, I'm gonna call BS. You can wring your hands the rest of your life or get on with it. But this incessant need to act like the world is over is childish.

Believe it or not, evil worse than this happens every day on this earth. Living in terror the rest of your life solves nothing.

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you should learn to quote better....because what you have quoted here.....I DIDNT SAY

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Bird Poo said:

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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

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Bird Poo said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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I just feel so bad for Dylan, and not because she's being vilified in all this. There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life. She's blessed and lucky to be alive, but the life she knew and had will never be familiar to her again.

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I don't understand these statements at all. She will process this in her own way and likely move on with life. Yes, it will be with her the rest of her life. But some of you act like this is so emotionally crippling that people cannot cope with this kind of evil.

I'm here to tell you people can and do get on with their lives after horrific tragedies.

Must be a generational thing.

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There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life

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When people make absolute statements like the above, I'm gonna call BS. You can wring your hands the rest of your life or get on with it. But this incessant need to act like the world is over is childish.

Believe it or not, evil worse than this happens every day on this earth. Living in terror the rest of your life solves nothing.

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LOL

so the answer to 47,466 suicides in the United States in 2021 (it's even worse in 2022)

is to just get over an incessant need to act like the world is over.

Statistics on Suicide CDC

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I guess she should kill herself then since you know that will happen. Might as well let her parents know.

How do YOU think she should love her life after this? All I'm hearing is that she will sit about and stew over it forever.

Perhaps you need to watch Shawshank Redemption a few more times. It might make sense the 20th time.

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Bird Poo said:

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Bird Poo said:

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zgolfz85 said:

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I just feel so bad for Dylan, and not because she's being vilified in all this. There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life. She's blessed and lucky to be alive, but the life she knew and had will never be familiar to her again.

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I don't understand these statements at all. She will process this in her own way and likely move on with life. Yes, it will be with her the rest of her life. But some of you act like this is so emotionally crippling that people cannot cope with this kind of evil.

I'm here to tell you people can and do get on with their lives after horrific tragedies.

Must be a generational thing.

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There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life

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When people make absolute statements like the above, I'm gonna call BS. You can wring your hands the rest of your life or get on with it. But this incessant need to act like the world is over is childish.

Believe it or not, evil worse than this happens every day on this earth. Living in terror the rest of your life solves nothing.

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you should learn to quote better....because what you have quoted here.....I DIDNT SAY

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I know that. But my response before you butted in was toward someone else. It was the context for my original reply. You should learn to comprehend better.

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Saw an interesting thing today. I guess it was posted 2 days ago but Kaylees dad states that not only did he ping cell towers in the area but "he was close enough that he was touching their wifi" with his cell phone.

So if that is true that is very interesting. That was not in the affidavit. That would not mean connecting to their Wifi but a router picks up any active wifi device that is within range - that is how it shows you available routers when you look at your wifi options. And routers keep logs of devices that they have been in proximity of.

He would be referring to during some of the other visits to the area (the affidavit said 12 previous times) before the night of the murders because his phone was off on that occasion.


Now he could be mistaken and confusing cell phone tower hits with wifi but I don't know he was kind of specific and seemed to be emphasizing that.

At about 4:40 in this interview:

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We already have proof that he was using tinder from a woman who hooked up with him from that app that was quoted earlier in the thread. I reiterate that he may have been hooking up with one of the girls in the house through this app. Hence his presence in the area. Far fetched for sure, but a possibility.

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There's absolutely no way that dude was hooking up with any of those chicks. I know because I have eyes

smh

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Mismatched people of all looks and ages hook up literally all the time, all day, every day. If you've ever been out in the real world, you know there is no such thing as "I know they're not hooking up because I have eyes." I've seen many ugly dudes bag beautiful women, and vice versa. It happens regularly.

We know Kohberger was on Tinder because at least one chick has come out and done an interview about her date with him. I wouldn't discount anything yet considering how little we still know.

For the lawyers:

"D.M. stated she opened her door for the third time after she heard the crying and mw a figure clad in black clothing and a mask that covered the person's mouth and nose walking towards her. D.M. described the figure as 5' I 0" or taller, male, not very muscular, but athletically built with bushy eyebrows. The male walked past D.M….D.M. did not state that she recognized the male. This leads investigators to believe that the murderer left the scene."

Any chance this was worded this way intentionally?

Why would you not state it as, "DM stated she did not recognize the male."

I know it's nit picky, but there is a difference there.

NOT trying to implicate DM or imply anything. Just simply a question of if this is a tactical move by the prosecutors or just simply a difference in language that means nothing.

To get back to the actual case: he should be appearing in court right about now (8am PT). We should know soon whether he enters a plea, wants a speedy trial, or wants a preliminary hearing.

This thread should be locked until there is a hearing. This is ridiculous.

Believe this is a link to the hearing. They will replay it as they are allowed to:

No speedy prelim hearing, no bail. Looks like it's going to be a while.

Preliminary hearing set for June 26th, I believe they said. And waived his right to a speedy trial.

June 26th is the date for his preliminary hearing. He waived his right to a speedy prelim hearing! Not the same as waiving his right to a speedy trial, though.

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Preliminary hearing set for June 26th, I believe they said. And waived his right to a speedy trial.

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Inaccurate. I think under Idaho law there is a requirement for a prelim unless waived within a set time following arrest. The speedy trial requirement isn't triggered until the prelim is held. Clock isn't ticking on speedy trial yet.

Over five months from now?

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Over five months from now?

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Yes. Apparently this is by agreement between defense and prosecution, I think.

Bunk Moreland said:

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A lot of posters who think they come off looking like this:










When in reality it's this:

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Miss Jean Louise, stand up.
Your father's passing.



How two sentences surrounded by silence can hit your emotions

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This thread should be locked until there is a hearing. This is ridiculous.

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or you can stop following it until then.

although i agree there is a lot of stupidity especially over DMs reaction or lack thereof which we have barely any info about.

Looks like he's got a couple cuts on his face. Maybe the boys tuned him up a bit?

June 26th

Is that normal length to wait for the hearing?

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June 26th

Is that normal length to wait for the hearing?

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No. Not for a preliminary hearing that is. The prelim hearing is all about probable cause for the initial arrest. When the prosecution has to show much more of their evidence to support probable cause. But the prosecution's discovery obligations are in place so by the time this hearing is even held, the defense should already have everything the prosecution has, Which would normally obviate the need for a prelim.

I also heard the PD, Taylor, say that the preliminary hearing will last three or four days. Again a long time for such a hearing. A mini trial if you will.