I just feel so bad for Dylan, and not because she's being vilified in all this. There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life. She's blessed and lucky to be alive, but the life she knew and had will never be familiar to her again.
I don't understand these statements at all. She will process this in her own way and likely move on with life. Yes, it will be with her the rest of her life. But some of you act like this is so emotionally crippling that people cannot cope with this kind of evil.
I'm here to tell you people can and do get on with their lives after horrific tragedies.
Must be a generational thing.
Ha, I agree, but if you think being in a home where this kind of crime is committed and walking out and smelling your roommates' blood the next morning and seeing lifeless bodies is something she can just move on from is feasible, I don't know what world you're living in or how much of a grasp you have on mental health. That is exacerbated by the fact she alone saw the killer.
Will she be able to cope and move on? Sure, but not in any capacity that resembles the average human experience.
I just feel so bad for Dylan, and not because she's being vilified in all this. There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life. She's blessed and lucky to be alive, but the life she knew and had will never be familiar to her again.
I don't understand these statements at all. She will process this in her own way and likely move on with life. Yes, it will be with her the rest of her life. But some of you act like this is so emotionally crippling that people cannot cope with this kind of evil.
I'm here to tell you people can and do get on with their lives after horrific tragedies.
Must be a generational thing.
There's just no way she'll be able to live her life without thinking about this and reliving it every single day and likely every hour for the rest of her life
When people make absolute statements like the above, I'm gonna call BS. You can wring your hands the rest of your life or get on with it. But this incessant need to act like the world is over is childish.
Believe it or not, evil worse than this happens every day on this earth. Living in terror the rest of your life solves nothing.
No one is saying that and you're blatantly extrapolating
Good lord, y'all will argue over anything. Of course she will have some survivor's guilt, and there are obviously different degrees of it. Why does it have to be either she lives a completely normal life and hardly thinks about it or death? It's not so black and white and stop cluttering this thread with your bs.
She is most likely going to have survivors guilt, its what our brains do to us. How much guilt and how it weighs on her is something we don't know and really can't predict. Just leave it at that.
No. Not for a preliminary hearing that is. The prelim hearing is all about probable cause for the initial arrest. When the prosecution has to show much more of their evidence to support probable cause. But the prosecution's discovery obligations are in place so by the time this hearing is even held, the defense should already have everything the prosecution has, Which would normally obviate the need for a prelim.
I also heard the PD, Taylor, say that the preliminary hearing will last three or four days. Again a long time for such a hearing. A mini trial if you will.
So does this give a clue as to defense strategy - are they gonna go with not guilty he didn't do it - or looking to get life in prison rather than death penalty?
So does this give a clue as to defense strategy - are they gonna go with not guilty he didn't do it - or looking to get life in prison rather than death penalty?
Assuming the prosecution is amenable to that. Politically, that might be pretty awkward, especially right now.
By putting off the prelim until June, and then a trial not for another year after that? Part of the reason for such delays is due to the possible jury panel and ability to seat an impartial jury.
If you were innocent wouldn't you want this thing over and done with asap? Also be screaming you've got the wrong guy, the real killer is still out there? Or would PD say you're already guilty to the public and police so let's not rush anything and make sure we have an airtight defense?
If you were innocent wouldn't you want this thing over and done with asap? Also be screaming you've got the wrong guy, the real killer is still out there? Or would PD say you're already guilty to the public and police so let's not rush anything and make sure we have an airtight defense?
No idea where this guy's head is at but he may still be thinking he's smarter than everybody. But since he will remain in custody for six months by putting this off I don't know.
Also remember that the defense can call witnesses and put on evidence in a prelim hearing on probable cause. So if there was exculpatory evidence that he didn't do it, putting it off for that long would not make sense.
Looks like he's got a couple cuts on his face. Maybe the boys tuned him up a bit?
Maybe breaking out from stress, picking at it from nerves. Doubt he's been roughed up, he's in isolation and suicide watch.
Not that this will happen, but kind of agree with the notion that a pause is a good idea. I'm spending too much time on this thread anyway. But the lack of information in the past week hasn't slowed the posting, and thus it's decended into speculations and then strong opinions about those speculations. Such is human nature. June will be here before you know it.
That was my thought. Bryan might think he can use his education and research to help him poke holes in prosecutions case and just needs more time.
Or they want time to do a full psych evaluation on him for possible diversion to a mental health facility?
I posted a stream yesterday where a death penalty expert lawyer went through how there are full teams assembled for every death penalty case. A minimum of two certified capital offense attorneys, psych team and a mitigation team. The mitigation team searches for evidence of past abuse, etc. to assert as factors mitigating against the death penalty.
But there is also another factor here and that is the father. Prosecution can lean on him, maybe even bring accssory after the fact charges against him. That would put additonal pressure on BK.
What kind of accessory charges? I don't see that angle and it's been mentioned a couple of times.
Unless you can prove the father knew of the murders, and his cross country trip with him was to help Bryan in some way, I don't see him as an accessory?
Saw an interesting thing today. I guess it was posted 2 days ago but Kaylees dad states that not only did he ping cell towers in the area but "he was close enough that he was touching their wifi" with his cell phone.
So if that is true that is very interesting. That was not in the affidavit. That would not mean connecting to their Wifi but a router picks up any active wifi device that is within range - that is how it shows you available routers when you look at your wifi options. And routers keep logs of devices that they have been in proximity of.
He would be referring to during some of the other visits to the area (the affidavit said 12 previous times) before the night of the murders because his phone was off on that occasion.
Now he could be mistaken and confusing cell phone tower hits with wifi but I don't know he was kind of specific and seemed to be emphasizing that.
At about 4:40 in this interview:
We already have proof that he was using tinder from a woman who hooked up with him from that app that was quoted earlier in the thread. I reiterate that he may have been hooking up with one of the girls in the house through this app. Hence his presence in the area. Far fetched for sure, but a possibility.
There's absolutely no way that dude was hooking up with any of those chicks. I know because I have eyes
smh
Mismatched people of all looks and ages hook up literally all the time, all day, every day. If you've ever been out in the real world, you know there is no such thing as "I know they're not hooking up because I have eyes." I've seen many ugly dudes bag beautiful women, and vice versa. It happens regularly.
We know Kohberger was on Tinder because at least one chick has come out and done an interview about her date with him. I wouldn't discount anything yet considering how little we still know.
could he have swindled his way into a date with one of these ladies on tinder, etc.? sure, but no way they hooked up after said date if that happened. But, I think that would've likely come out in some form by now. if that happened, he'd be 100% fried with no viable defense.
What kind of accessory charges? I don't see that angle and it's been mentioned a couple of times.
Unless you can prove the father knew of the murders, and his cross country trip with him was to help Bryan in some way, I don't see him as an accessory?
He's sitting in car that had a national BOLO on it. His son was less than ten miles away from the murder site. They took a circuitous route to get back to PA. But the father never had a clue?
Remember the prosecution has BK's complete cell phone records which includes any text messages or calls between them. BK was a criminolgy guy, a mass murder happens ten miles away, certainly you would think they had discussed it at some point?
The death penalty lawyer was pretty confident that the state will be looking hard at the Dad on the possibility of charges.
Saw an interesting thing today. I guess it was posted 2 days ago but Kaylees dad states that not only did he ping cell towers in the area but "he was close enough that he was touching their wifi" with his cell phone.
So if that is true that is very interesting. That was not in the affidavit. That would not mean connecting to their Wifi but a router picks up any active wifi device that is within range - that is how it shows you available routers when you look at your wifi options. And routers keep logs of devices that they have been in proximity of.
He would be referring to during some of the other visits to the area (the affidavit said 12 previous times) before the night of the murders because his phone was off on that occasion.
Now he could be mistaken and confusing cell phone tower hits with wifi but I don't know he was kind of specific and seemed to be emphasizing that.
At about 4:40 in this interview:
We already have proof that he was using tinder from a woman who hooked up with him from that app that was quoted earlier in the thread. I reiterate that he may have been hooking up with one of the girls in the house through this app. Hence his presence in the area. Far fetched for sure, but a possibility.
There's absolutely no way that dude was hooking up with any of those chicks. I know because I have eyes
smh
Mismatched people of all looks and ages hook up literally all the time, all day, every day. If you've ever been out in the real world, you know there is no such thing as "I know they're not hooking up because I have eyes." I've seen many ugly dudes bag beautiful women, and vice versa. It happens regularly.
We know Kohberger was on Tinder because at least one chick has come out and done an interview about her date with him. I wouldn't discount anything yet considering how little we still know.
could he have swindled his way into a date with one of these ladies on tinder, etc.? sure, but no way they hooked up after said date if that happened. But, I think that would've likely come out in some form by now. if that happened, he'd be 100% fried with no viable defense.
I'll piggyback on my own post there as there's been an interview that's come out with a gal that he met through a dating app years back. she was so creeped out by this guy (she said not scared of him, just weirded out by him) that she went to the bathroom and faked puking so that he'd leave her apartment or dorm. She didn't even come out to tell him -- she texted him through the app and he left. He then texted her back something along the lines of "you have great birthing hips" and she blocked him and never talked to him again.
Hard to tell what she looked like visually as I only heard her interview audio, but she sounded like someone that would be in the same class as BK (let's call her a 6). I just don't see these gorgeous girls matching with BK -- he's a decent looking dude, but I'm sure that these gals could have their pick of the litter with any alpha male studs, especially at a school like Idaho. It's not Arizona State...
What kind of accessory charges? I don't see that angle and it's been mentioned a couple of times.
Unless you can prove the father knew of the murders, and his cross country trip with him was to help Bryan in some way, I don't see him as an accessory?
The dad isn't going to be charged. The suggestion that he might be charged for "leverage" is completely absurd. Somebody has watched way too much crime fantasy TV.
probably best for justice, but sucks that everyone involved and any one who's been following this thing is going to have to wait that long, especially with a gag order in place.
I'm sure the Nancy Graces of the world and other pod hosts and writers that have been banking off this case are annoyed by this outcome too. They had many a new listener and follower tuned in daily just to get largely irrelevant additional snippets
That was my thought. Bryan might think he can use his education and research to help him poke holes in prosecutions case and just needs more time.
Or they want time to do a full psych evaluation on him for possible diversion to a mental health facility?
Is diversion even possible in Idaho?
There is some confusion about how Idaho uses what we generally call the insanity defense. They don't have one per se but do have procedures for confinement in a mental health facility instead of a prison.
For all intents and purposes, this magistrate has determined he is competent to understand and compehend the severity of the charges against him and has questioned him closely about his waiver of a speedy preliminary hearing today. So he's not insane. He probably is not a psychopath either but is a sociopath lacking empathy.
I doubt his case would be suitable for such a diversion but the defense still has to pursue it if possible.
Saw an interesting thing today. I guess it was posted 2 days ago but Kaylees dad states that not only did he ping cell towers in the area but "he was close enough that he was touching their wifi" with his cell phone.
So if that is true that is very interesting. That was not in the affidavit. That would not mean connecting to their Wifi but a router picks up any active wifi device that is within range - that is how it shows you available routers when you look at your wifi options. And routers keep logs of devices that they have been in proximity of.
He would be referring to during some of the other visits to the area (the affidavit said 12 previous times) before the night of the murders because his phone was off on that occasion.
Now he could be mistaken and confusing cell phone tower hits with wifi but I don't know he was kind of specific and seemed to be emphasizing that.
At about 4:40 in this interview:
We already have proof that he was using tinder from a woman who hooked up with him from that app that was quoted earlier in the thread. I reiterate that he may have been hooking up with one of the girls in the house through this app. Hence his presence in the area. Far fetched for sure, but a possibility.
There's absolutely no way that dude was hooking up with any of those chicks. I know because I have eyes
smh
People hook up all the time.
It would also explain why DK saw the suspect, was "scared", but then went back to bed and didn't call the police for 8 hours.
I don't think a familiar face, even if they thought he was weird, would result in "frozen state of panic." I can't believe there are humans that actually think there's even a remote chance that this creeper of a dude hooked up with any of these beautiful girls. Y'all sound like a bunch of incels yourselves
It wouldn't have necessarily had to be the suspect had done any hook ups with any of the girls. If one or more of the room mates had lots of random hook ups, the sight of a stranger in the house might have at first startled DK, then she realizes "it's a hook up" and she went back to bed. Especially if she was drunk or high on something. It was also dark and he had on a covid mask (IIRC) so she really did not get a good look at him.
Have you never walked into a room that you though was empty and suddenly realize someone else is in the room and frozen...then you realize it's your wife, brother, sister, whatever? You move along to whatever you were doing.
Yes of course I've done that. I thought you were suggesting BK hooked up with one of these girls, which would be laughable
No, sorry I was not trying to imply that.
And I know we all think the hot girls won't date the ugly guys, but I knew a guy at A&M who was not a looker at all but just had a personality that attracted women like not ones business and he had a new girl every other month. And not ugly or even average girls. These were girls anyone in our circle of friends would loved to have gone out with.
Do we really know much about the suspect other than online stories (which we all know are going to emphasize the negative b/c of what he is suspected of doing) and that we think he killed these 4 people?
EDIT: Saw your post above about the creepy encounter. Again, not saying he hooked up with these girls specifically, but random ugly/hot people hook up all the time. You're eyes can't tell you anything about people's attractions.
Saw an interesting thing today. I guess it was posted 2 days ago but Kaylees dad states that not only did he ping cell towers in the area but "he was close enough that he was touching their wifi" with his cell phone.
So if that is true that is very interesting. That was not in the affidavit. That would not mean connecting to their Wifi but a router picks up any active wifi device that is within range - that is how it shows you available routers when you look at your wifi options. And routers keep logs of devices that they have been in proximity of.
He would be referring to during some of the other visits to the area (the affidavit said 12 previous times) before the night of the murders because his phone was off on that occasion.
Now he could be mistaken and confusing cell phone tower hits with wifi but I don't know he was kind of specific and seemed to be emphasizing that.
At about 4:40 in this interview:
We already have proof that he was using tinder from a woman who hooked up with him from that app that was quoted earlier in the thread. I reiterate that he may have been hooking up with one of the girls in the house through this app. Hence his presence in the area. Far fetched for sure, but a possibility.
There's absolutely no way that dude was hooking up with any of those chicks. I know because I have eyes
smh
People hook up all the time.
It would also explain why DK saw the suspect, was "scared", but then went back to bed and didn't call the police for 8 hours.
I don't think a familiar face, even if they thought he was weird, would result in "frozen state of panic." I can't believe there are humans that actually think there's even a remote chance that this creeper of a dude hooked up with any of these beautiful girls. Y'all sound like a bunch of incels yourselves
It wouldn't have necessarily had to be the suspect had done any hook ups with any of the girls. If one or more of the room mates had lots of random hook ups, the sight of a stranger in the house might have at first startled DK, then she realizes "it's a hook up" and she went back to bed. Especially if she was drunk or high on something. It was also dark and he had on a covid mask (IIRC) so she really did not get a good look at him.
Have you never walked into a room that you though was empty and suddenly realize someone else is in the room and frozen...then you realize it's your wife, brother, sister, whatever? You move along to whatever you were doing.
If DM recognized BK, then she would have told the police that info right away. It took police 2 weeks to have him as a suspect. There is no way DM recognized this guy.
I didn't say she did. I meant that she maybe saw him and was scared, then thought "oh, it's so-and-so's weekly hook up" and then went to bed. If she was a shocked/scared as we are reading in the affidavit, WTF didn't she call SOMEONE. Anyone. "Hey, there's a stranger in my house and I'm locked in my room scared to death!!!".
Ridiculous, absurd this June date. Where is the justice for the victims and their family. Who pays the outlandish lawyer fees to drag this out.
What a ****show
Taxpayers of course. I was unaware of it but there are specific protocols for any death penalty case. The ABA has a special manual and classes for attorneys to be capital offense certified. And then there are teams that are assembled to assist those certified attorneys. Every defendant gets two certified attoneys assigned along with those teams.
Ridiculous, absurd this June date. Where is the justice for the victims and their family. Who pays the outlandish lawyer fees to drag this out.
What a ****show
It was agreed to by both sides.
And be as ugly as it may seem in this case, be glad the public pays for this kind of defense, you could be wrongly accused of a heinous crime in the future and have need of this system.
Saw an interesting thing today. I guess it was posted 2 days ago but Kaylees dad states that not only did he ping cell towers in the area but "he was close enough that he was touching their wifi" with his cell phone.
So if that is true that is very interesting. That was not in the affidavit. That would not mean connecting to their Wifi but a router picks up any active wifi device that is within range - that is how it shows you available routers when you look at your wifi options. And routers keep logs of devices that they have been in proximity of.
He would be referring to during some of the other visits to the area (the affidavit said 12 previous times) before the night of the murders because his phone was off on that occasion.
Now he could be mistaken and confusing cell phone tower hits with wifi but I don't know he was kind of specific and seemed to be emphasizing that.
At about 4:40 in this interview:
We already have proof that he was using tinder from a woman who hooked up with him from that app that was quoted earlier in the thread. I reiterate that he may have been hooking up with one of the girls in the house through this app. Hence his presence in the area. Far fetched for sure, but a possibility.
There's absolutely no way that dude was hooking up with any of those chicks. I know because I have eyes
smh
People hook up all the time.
It would also explain why DK saw the suspect, was "scared", but then went back to bed and didn't call the police for 8 hours.
I don't think a familiar face, even if they thought he was weird, would result in "frozen state of panic." I can't believe there are humans that actually think there's even a remote chance that this creeper of a dude hooked up with any of these beautiful girls. Y'all sound like a bunch of incels yourselves
It wouldn't have necessarily had to be the suspect had done any hook ups with any of the girls. If one or more of the room mates had lots of random hook ups, the sight of a stranger in the house might have at first startled DK, then she realizes "it's a hook up" and she went back to bed. Especially if she was drunk or high on something. It was also dark and he had on a covid mask (IIRC) so she really did not get a good look at him.
Have you never walked into a room that you though was empty and suddenly realize someone else is in the room and frozen...then you realize it's your wife, brother, sister, whatever? You move along to whatever you were doing.
If DM recognized BK, then she would have told the police that info right away. It took police 2 weeks to have him as a suspect. There is no way DM recognized this guy.
I didn't say she did. I meant that she maybe saw him and was scared, then thought "oh, it's so-and-so's weekly hook up" and then went to bed. If she was a shocked/scared as we are reading in the affidavit, WTF didn't she call SOMEONE. Anyone. "Hey, there's a stranger in my house and I'm locked in my room scared to death!!!".
She locked her door and went to sleep.
That's your interpretation based on knowing what happened. There is nothing in the affidavit that really gives any measure of how scared she was or for how long. In a shocked frozen state could have been completely momentary and then gone once he exited. It does not say.
I personally think it is there ONLY to explain why he did not notice her but she saw him - a cracked door, dark room, and she froze just as he walked by and exited.
ANYTHING else is supposition. We don't know if it passed quickly or not. Yes she locked her door but she might usually do that anyway.
Saw an interesting thing today. I guess it was posted 2 days ago but Kaylees dad states that not only did he ping cell towers in the area but "he was close enough that he was touching their wifi" with his cell phone.
So if that is true that is very interesting. That was not in the affidavit. That would not mean connecting to their Wifi but a router picks up any active wifi device that is within range - that is how it shows you available routers when you look at your wifi options. And routers keep logs of devices that they have been in proximity of.
He would be referring to during some of the other visits to the area (the affidavit said 12 previous times) before the night of the murders because his phone was off on that occasion.
Now he could be mistaken and confusing cell phone tower hits with wifi but I don't know he was kind of specific and seemed to be emphasizing that.
At about 4:40 in this interview:
We already have proof that he was using tinder from a woman who hooked up with him from that app that was quoted earlier in the thread. I reiterate that he may have been hooking up with one of the girls in the house through this app. Hence his presence in the area. Far fetched for sure, but a possibility.
There's absolutely no way that dude was hooking up with any of those chicks. I know because I have eyes
smh
People hook up all the time.
It would also explain why DK saw the suspect, was "scared", but then went back to bed and didn't call the police for 8 hours.
I don't think a familiar face, even if they thought he was weird, would result in "frozen state of panic." I can't believe there are humans that actually think there's even a remote chance that this creeper of a dude hooked up with any of these beautiful girls. Y'all sound like a bunch of incels yourselves
It wouldn't have necessarily had to be the suspect had done any hook ups with any of the girls. If one or more of the room mates had lots of random hook ups, the sight of a stranger in the house might have at first startled DK, then she realizes "it's a hook up" and she went back to bed. Especially if she was drunk or high on something. It was also dark and he had on a covid mask (IIRC) so she really did not get a good look at him.
Have you never walked into a room that you though was empty and suddenly realize someone else is in the room and frozen...then you realize it's your wife, brother, sister, whatever? You move along to whatever you were doing.
If DM recognized BK, then she would have told the police that info right away. It took police 2 weeks to have him as a suspect. There is no way DM recognized this guy.
I didn't say she did. I meant that she maybe saw him and was scared, then thought "oh, it's so-and-so's weekly hook up" and then went to bed. If she was a shocked/scared as we are reading in the affidavit, WTF didn't she call SOMEONE. Anyone. "Hey, there's a stranger in my house and I'm locked in my room scared to death!!!".
She locked her door and went to sleep.
The surviving roommate (DM) claimed she heard crying come from Xana's room, and DM also knew Ethan was in the room. Xana and Ethan are in a relationship. DM also heard someone say "there's someone here."
I sincerely doubt that after all of that, DM thought that a random guy dressed in all black was a random hookup of one of the roommates.
Saw an interesting thing today. I guess it was posted 2 days ago but Kaylees dad states that not only did he ping cell towers in the area but "he was close enough that he was touching their wifi" with his cell phone.
So if that is true that is very interesting. That was not in the affidavit. That would not mean connecting to their Wifi but a router picks up any active wifi device that is within range - that is how it shows you available routers when you look at your wifi options. And routers keep logs of devices that they have been in proximity of.
He would be referring to during some of the other visits to the area (the affidavit said 12 previous times) before the night of the murders because his phone was off on that occasion.
Now he could be mistaken and confusing cell phone tower hits with wifi but I don't know he was kind of specific and seemed to be emphasizing that.
At about 4:40 in this interview:
We already have proof that he was using tinder from a woman who hooked up with him from that app that was quoted earlier in the thread. I reiterate that he may have been hooking up with one of the girls in the house through this app. Hence his presence in the area. Far fetched for sure, but a possibility.
There's absolutely no way that dude was hooking up with any of those chicks. I know because I have eyes
smh
Mismatched people of all looks and ages hook up literally all the time, all day, every day. If you've ever been out in the real world, you know there is no such thing as "I know they're not hooking up because I have eyes." I've seen many ugly dudes bag beautiful women, and vice versa. It happens regularly.
We know Kohberger was on Tinder because at least one chick has come out and done an interview about her date with him. I wouldn't discount anything yet considering how little we still know.
could he have swindled his way into a date with one of these ladies on tinder, etc.? sure, but no way they hooked up after said date if that happened. But, I think that would've likely come out in some form by now. if that happened, he'd be 100% fried with no viable defense.
I'll piggyback on my own post there as there's been an interview that's come out with a gal that he met through a dating app years back. she was so creeped out by this guy (she said not scared of him, just weirded out by him) that she went to the bathroom and faked puking so that he'd leave her apartment or dorm. She didn't even come out to tell him -- she texted him through the app and he left. He then texted her back something along the lines of "you have great birthing hips" and she blocked him and never talked to him again.
Hard to tell what she looked like visually as I only heard her interview audio, but she sounded like someone that would be in the same class as BK (let's call her a 6). I just don't see these gorgeous girls matching with BK -- he's a decent looking dude, but I'm sure that these gals could have their pick of the litter with any alpha male studs, especially at a school like Idaho. It's not Arizona State...
Not a 6, maybe a 3.75
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Saw an interesting thing today. I guess it was posted 2 days ago but Kaylees dad states that not only did he ping cell towers in the area but "he was close enough that he was touching their wifi" with his cell phone.
So if that is true that is very interesting. That was not in the affidavit. That would not mean connecting to their Wifi but a router picks up any active wifi device that is within range - that is how it shows you available routers when you look at your wifi options. And routers keep logs of devices that they have been in proximity of.
He would be referring to during some of the other visits to the area (the affidavit said 12 previous times) before the night of the murders because his phone was off on that occasion.
Now he could be mistaken and confusing cell phone tower hits with wifi but I don't know he was kind of specific and seemed to be emphasizing that.
At about 4:40 in this interview:
We already have proof that he was using tinder from a woman who hooked up with him from that app that was quoted earlier in the thread. I reiterate that he may have been hooking up with one of the girls in the house through this app. Hence his presence in the area. Far fetched for sure, but a possibility.
There's absolutely no way that dude was hooking up with any of those chicks. I know because I have eyes
smh
People hook up all the time.
It would also explain why DK saw the suspect, was "scared", but then went back to bed and didn't call the police for 8 hours.
I don't think a familiar face, even if they thought he was weird, would result in "frozen state of panic." I can't believe there are humans that actually think there's even a remote chance that this creeper of a dude hooked up with any of these beautiful girls. Y'all sound like a bunch of incels yourselves
It wouldn't have necessarily had to be the suspect had done any hook ups with any of the girls. If one or more of the room mates had lots of random hook ups, the sight of a stranger in the house might have at first startled DK, then she realizes "it's a hook up" and she went back to bed. Especially if she was drunk or high on something. It was also dark and he had on a covid mask (IIRC) so she really did not get a good look at him.
Have you never walked into a room that you though was empty and suddenly realize someone else is in the room and frozen...then you realize it's your wife, brother, sister, whatever? You move along to whatever you were doing.
Yes of course I've done that. I thought you were suggesting BK hooked up with one of these girls, which would be laughable
No, sorry I was not trying to imply that.
And I know we all think the hot girls won't date the ugly guys, but I knew a guy at A&M who was not a looker at all but just had a personality that attracted women like not ones business and he had a new girl every other month. And not ugly or even average girls. These were girls anyone in our circle of friends would loved to have gone out with.
Do we really know much about the suspect other than online stories (which we all know are going to emphasize the negative b/c of what he is suspected of doing) and that we think he killed these 4 people?
EDIT: Saw your post above about the creepy encounter. Again, not saying he hooked up with these girls specifically, but random ugly/hot people hook up all the time. You're eyes can't tell you anything about people's attractions.
Saw an interesting thing today. I guess it was posted 2 days ago but Kaylees dad states that not only did he ping cell towers in the area but "he was close enough that he was touching their wifi" with his cell phone.
So if that is true that is very interesting. That was not in the affidavit. That would not mean connecting to their Wifi but a router picks up any active wifi device that is within range - that is how it shows you available routers when you look at your wifi options. And routers keep logs of devices that they have been in proximity of.
He would be referring to during some of the other visits to the area (the affidavit said 12 previous times) before the night of the murders because his phone was off on that occasion.
Now he could be mistaken and confusing cell phone tower hits with wifi but I don't know he was kind of specific and seemed to be emphasizing that.
At about 4:40 in this interview:
We already have proof that he was using tinder from a woman who hooked up with him from that app that was quoted earlier in the thread. I reiterate that he may have been hooking up with one of the girls in the house through this app. Hence his presence in the area. Far fetched for sure, but a possibility.
There's absolutely no way that dude was hooking up with any of those chicks. I know because I have eyes
smh
People hook up all the time.
It would also explain why DK saw the suspect, was "scared", but then went back to bed and didn't call the police for 8 hours.
I don't think a familiar face, even if they thought he was weird, would result in "frozen state of panic." I can't believe there are humans that actually think there's even a remote chance that this creeper of a dude hooked up with any of these beautiful girls. Y'all sound like a bunch of incels yourselves
It wouldn't have necessarily had to be the suspect had done any hook ups with any of the girls. If one or more of the room mates had lots of random hook ups, the sight of a stranger in the house might have at first startled DK, then she realizes "it's a hook up" and she went back to bed. Especially if she was drunk or high on something. It was also dark and he had on a covid mask (IIRC) so she really did not get a good look at him.
Have you never walked into a room that you though was empty and suddenly realize someone else is in the room and frozen...then you realize it's your wife, brother, sister, whatever? You move along to whatever you were doing.
If DM recognized BK, then she would have told the police that info right away. It took police 2 weeks to have him as a suspect. There is no way DM recognized this guy.
I didn't say she did. I meant that she maybe saw him and was scared, then thought "oh, it's so-and-so's weekly hook up" and then went to bed. If she was a shocked/scared as we are reading in the affidavit, WTF didn't she call SOMEONE. Anyone. "Hey, there's a stranger in my house and I'm locked in my room scared to death!!!".
She locked her door and went to sleep.
The surviving roommate (DM) claimed she heard crying come from Xana's room, and DM also knew Ethan was in the room. Xana and Ethan are in a relationship. DM also heard someone say "there's someone here."
I sincerely doubt that after all of that, DM thought that a random guy dressed in all black was a random hookup of one of the roommates.
Based on what exactly?
You don't know her. You don't know their behaviors. You don't know how close they were? You don't know if late night noise or visitors is common. You don't know if crying occurred often because 5 girls had on/off again relationships. You don't know context of the noises. You don't know if the tone of the words was escalated/panicked or rather calm. You don't even know what state she was in (after a night of potential partying).
Please explain how you are so sure seeing someone exiting dressed in black would immediately cause panic and a call to the police?
Saw an interesting thing today. I guess it was posted 2 days ago but Kaylees dad states that not only did he ping cell towers in the area but "he was close enough that he was touching their wifi" with his cell phone.
So if that is true that is very interesting. That was not in the affidavit. That would not mean connecting to their Wifi but a router picks up any active wifi device that is within range - that is how it shows you available routers when you look at your wifi options. And routers keep logs of devices that they have been in proximity of.
He would be referring to during some of the other visits to the area (the affidavit said 12 previous times) before the night of the murders because his phone was off on that occasion.
Now he could be mistaken and confusing cell phone tower hits with wifi but I don't know he was kind of specific and seemed to be emphasizing that.
At about 4:40 in this interview:
We already have proof that he was using tinder from a woman who hooked up with him from that app that was quoted earlier in the thread. I reiterate that he may have been hooking up with one of the girls in the house through this app. Hence his presence in the area. Far fetched for sure, but a possibility.
There's absolutely no way that dude was hooking up with any of those chicks. I know because I have eyes
smh
Mismatched people of all looks and ages hook up literally all the time, all day, every day. If you've ever been out in the real world, you know there is no such thing as "I know they're not hooking up because I have eyes." I've seen many ugly dudes bag beautiful women, and vice versa. It happens regularly.
We know Kohberger was on Tinder because at least one chick has come out and done an interview about her date with him. I wouldn't discount anything yet considering how little we still know.
could he have swindled his way into a date with one of these ladies on tinder, etc.? sure, but no way they hooked up after said date if that happened. But, I think that would've likely come out in some form by now. if that happened, he'd be 100% fried with no viable defense.
I'll piggyback on my own post there as there's been an interview that's come out with a gal that he met through a dating app years back. she was so creeped out by this guy (she said not scared of him, just weirded out by him) that she went to the bathroom and faked puking so that he'd leave her apartment or dorm. She didn't even come out to tell him -- she texted him through the app and he left. He then texted her back something along the lines of "you have great birthing hips" and she blocked him and never talked to him again.
Hard to tell what she looked like visually as I only heard her interview audio, but she sounded like someone that would be in the same class as BK (let's call her a 6). I just don't see these gorgeous girls matching with BK -- he's a decent looking dude, but I'm sure that these gals could have their pick of the litter with any alpha male studs, especially at a school like Idaho. It's not Arizona State...
Not a 6, maybe a 3.75
She's a Pennsylvania 4 which is like a Wisconsin 5 which is an El Paso 7.
Saw an interesting thing today. I guess it was posted 2 days ago but Kaylees dad states that not only did he ping cell towers in the area but "he was close enough that he was touching their wifi" with his cell phone.
So if that is true that is very interesting. That was not in the affidavit. That would not mean connecting to their Wifi but a router picks up any active wifi device that is within range - that is how it shows you available routers when you look at your wifi options. And routers keep logs of devices that they have been in proximity of.
He would be referring to during some of the other visits to the area (the affidavit said 12 previous times) before the night of the murders because his phone was off on that occasion.
Now he could be mistaken and confusing cell phone tower hits with wifi but I don't know he was kind of specific and seemed to be emphasizing that.
At about 4:40 in this interview:
We already have proof that he was using tinder from a woman who hooked up with him from that app that was quoted earlier in the thread. I reiterate that he may have been hooking up with one of the girls in the house through this app. Hence his presence in the area. Far fetched for sure, but a possibility.
There's absolutely no way that dude was hooking up with any of those chicks. I know because I have eyes
smh
People hook up all the time.
It would also explain why DK saw the suspect, was "scared", but then went back to bed and didn't call the police for 8 hours.
I don't think a familiar face, even if they thought he was weird, would result in "frozen state of panic." I can't believe there are humans that actually think there's even a remote chance that this creeper of a dude hooked up with any of these beautiful girls. Y'all sound like a bunch of incels yourselves
It wouldn't have necessarily had to be the suspect had done any hook ups with any of the girls. If one or more of the room mates had lots of random hook ups, the sight of a stranger in the house might have at first startled DK, then she realizes "it's a hook up" and she went back to bed. Especially if she was drunk or high on something. It was also dark and he had on a covid mask (IIRC) so she really did not get a good look at him.
Have you never walked into a room that you though was empty and suddenly realize someone else is in the room and frozen...then you realize it's your wife, brother, sister, whatever? You move along to whatever you were doing.
If DM recognized BK, then she would have told the police that info right away. It took police 2 weeks to have him as a suspect. There is no way DM recognized this guy.
I didn't say she did. I meant that she maybe saw him and was scared, then thought "oh, it's so-and-so's weekly hook up" and then went to bed. If she was a shocked/scared as we are reading in the affidavit, WTF didn't she call SOMEONE. Anyone. "Hey, there's a stranger in my house and I'm locked in my room scared to death!!!".
She locked her door and went to sleep.
The surviving roommate (DM) claimed she heard crying come from Xana's room, and DM also knew Ethan was in the room. Xana and Ethan are in a relationship. DM also heard someone say "there's someone here."
I sincerely doubt that after all of that, DM thought that a random guy dressed in all black was a random hookup of one of the roommates.
. That's a good point and still makes us all ask, WTF did she just lock her door and go to sleep?
