Probably fuel. It's a small plane.

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Probably fuel. It's a small plane.

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Maybe this is a decoy plane? Any weather issues in the area?

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CuriousAg said:

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Plane down in Rapid City? Are they taking breaks?

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I am sure re-fueling and breaks.

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Government efficiency at its finest...

Agree. It's right there. Spokane is an hour and a half drive as is Couer d'Alene. Boise is over 5 hours.

MsDoubleD81 said:

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Probably fuel. It's a small plane.

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The Pilatus PC-12 is an awesome turbo prop plane, my buddy is a pilot and loves this plane, they are probably stopping for fuel as someone else said, Im not sure if all pc-12s are setup with bathrooms either? anyway, just probably a normal fuel and potty stop i would think ( with a werido on board- yikes)

Mason jars.

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MsDoubleD81 said:

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Probably fuel. It's a small plane.

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The Pilatus PC-12 is an awesome turbo prop plane, my buddy is a pilot and loves this plane, they are probably stopping for fuel as someone else said, Im not sure if all pc-12s are setup with bathrooms either? anyway, just probably a normal fuel and potty stop i would think ( with a werido on board- yikes)

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Passenger capability?

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The Pilatus PC-12 is an awesome turbo prop plane, my buddy is a pilot and loves this plane, they are probably stopping for fuel as someone else said, Im not sure if all pc-12s are setup with bathrooms either? anyway, just probably a normal fuel and potty stop i would think ( with a werido on board- yikes)

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Most have a convertable seat/toilet with a curtain for privacy. More likely a fuel stop.

Yes, how many agents/LEO are on board. I'm curious too about crew? Single pilot or 2?

discussing the plane trip? Is this News Nation?

6-10 I believe with the pilot, they come arranged differently depending on the owner.. I bet if its a police department owned plane it will have some form of cage built in?

Banfield will be along shortly.

Depends on configuration.

General characteristics

• Crew: 1 or 2
• Capacity: 6 to 9 passengers seats
• Length: 14.4 m (47 ft 3 in)
• Wingspan: 16.28 m (53 ft 5 in)
• Height: 4.26 m (14 ft 0 in)
• Wing area: 25.81 m2 (277.8 sq ft)
• Airfoil: root: NACA LS(1)-0417MOD; tip: NACA LS(1)-0313[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilatus_PC-12#cite_note-Selig-52][52][/url]
• Empty weight: 2,810 kg (6,195 lb)
• Max takeoff weight: 4,740 kg (10,450 lb)
• Maximum landing weight: 4,500 kg (9,921 lb)
• Maximum zero fuel weight: 4,100 kg (9,039 lb)
• Fuel capacity: 1,226 kg (2,703 lb) / 1,521 L (402 US gal; 335 imp gal)
• Cabin: 5.16 metres (16.9 ft) long, 1.47 metres (4.8 ft) high, up to 1.52 metres (5.0 ft) wide
• Powerplant: 1 Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6A-67P turboprop engine, 890 kW (1,200 shp)
• Propellers: 5-bladed Hartzell Propeller composite, 2.67 m (8 ft 9 in) diameter composite constant-speed fully-feathering reversible propeller

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6-10 I believe with the pilot, they come arranged differently depending on the owner.. I bet if its a police department owned plane it will have some form of cage built in?

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Most likely. It has a rear "cargo" door that can accommodate wooden pallets or stretchers for an air ambulance type of operation.

yeah that's not a lot of fuel, 402 gallons, definitely topping the plane off I would think.

maybe giving the guy a chance to break free and run.... so they can try out the new 308 sniper rifle? lol.. joking.. save some food bills

Update: the Pilatus is back up and heading westward

This from a friend who has flown it right seat.

"Most have only the most rudimentary potty".

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Probably fuel. It's a small plane.

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The Pilatus PC-12 is an awesome turbo prop plane, my buddy is a pilot and loves this plane, they are probably stopping for fuel as someone else said, Im not sure if all pc-12s are setup with bathrooms either? anyway, just probably a normal fuel and potty stop i would think ( with a werido on board- yikes)

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Even if equipped with bathroom, it would be the can under the seat variety.

That makes me always remember this gem:
https://jalopnik.com/this-is-the-most-embarrassing-plane-pooping-story-ever-1456846301

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My hunch is that those stops are not random or unlucky. I think they were part of the surveillance. I can think of several scenarios. The one that makes most sense to me is the the was being watched across the trip... they lost track of him for a while, this stop was to verify it was him. They gathered some intel, in this video the cop asked where he came from and where he was going. The second stop was just because word didn't make it to that guy that they didn't need him anymore. Or possibly, to verify that Bryan didn't spook and change course.

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I think you were right. They both kind of smelled like BS stops. They maybe lost track of him somewhere in Indiana and asked for him to be pulled over. First guy pulled him over, but the info didn't get out in time to keep the second guy from seeing the car and pulling it over.

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I think you were right. They both kind of smelled like BS stops. They maybe lost track of him somewhere in Indiana and asked for him to be pulled over. First guy pulled him over, but the info didn't get out in time to keep the second guy from seeing the car and pulling it over.

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Question?

When BK changed the registration to Washington state, wouldn't that throw off the EZ Pass for toll road usage or not?

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I think you were right. They both kind of smelled like BS stops. They maybe lost track of him somewhere in Indiana and asked for him to be pulled over. First guy pulled him over, but the info didn't get out in time to keep the second guy from seeing the car and pulling it over.

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Question?

When BK changed the registration to Washington state, wouldn't that throw off the EZ Pass for toll road usage or not?

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As far as billing? I don't know if there is anything automated to do it out-of-state. Whenever I have used a toll road out-of-state and gotten a bill by mail, it was usually at least a month later until it showed up. That makes me think it was a manual query.

Now as far as using EZ Pass to track a car? You know they have to have capability to do that. I think it wouldn't matter what state or who it is registered to. Some just enters Washington state ABC-1234 into the system.

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I think you were right. They both kind of smelled like BS stops. They maybe lost track of him somewhere in Indiana and asked for him to be pulled over. First guy pulled him over, but the info didn't get out in time to keep the second guy from seeing the car and pulling it over.

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Question?

When BK changed the registration to Washington state, wouldn't that throw off the EZ Pass for toll road usage or not?

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As far as billing? I don't know if there is anything automated to do it out-of-state. Whenever I have used a toll road out-of-state and gotten a bill by mail, it was usually at least a month later until it showed up. That makes me think it was a manual query.

Now as far as using EZ Pass to track a car? You know they have to have capability to do that. I think it wouldn't matter what state or who it is registered to. Some just enters Washington state ABC-1234 into the system.

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No I meant tracking in real time.

just read the story, now thats funny, I dont ride in private planes but I will remember that if I ever do!

Just fly in a Gulfstream and no worries.

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I think you were right. They both kind of smelled like BS stops. They maybe lost track of him somewhere in Indiana and asked for him to be pulled over. First guy pulled him over, but the info didn't get out in time to keep the second guy from seeing the car and pulling it over.

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Question?

When BK changed the registration to Washington state, wouldn't that throw off the EZ Pass for toll road usage or not?

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As far as billing? I don't know if there is anything automated to do it out-of-state. Whenever I have used a toll road out-of-state and gotten a bill by mail, it was usually at least a month later until it showed up. That makes me think it was a manual query.

Now as far as using EZ Pass to track a car? You know they have to have capability to do that. I think it wouldn't matter what state or who it is registered to. Some just enters Washington state ABC-1234 into the system.

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No I meant tracking in real time.

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If they already knew he had Washington plates on the car, they should have been able to track him with EZ Pass. Now speaking hypothetically, what if he switched plates mid-trip? Yeah, it would probably throw them off if they didn't know about those plates. Not the sort of thing an innocent person would do.

I would assume any time there is a bulletin issued for a particular car with a particular plate, it goes into a system and every EZ Pass in the country starts looking for it.

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just read the story, now thats funny, I dont ride in private planes but I will remember that if I ever do!

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Read the fine print. Or ask the pilot before you get on. That's the best education on whether the lav is a no-go, number 1 or can support #2 but only in an emergency, is / is not private and such.

Not meant to derail. Glad this guy is caught. If he talks, sounds like he will be another unique study.

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EZ pass is not going to know he updated his license plate unless he notifies them. WA does not participate in that program

that said, if he still had the EZ pass device attached to his windshield/visor and it was active (assuming you can turn it on/off like in WA) they can still track/charge based on that.

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Thanks. Never had a need to use toll roads and get passes during the time we lived in Austin. The Hubs received a billing for a toll road in Austin several months ago, for a truck that had been a farm vehicle at the ranch for nearly ten years. (Don't ask, he's weird that way.) He called to ask which vehicle was on the video? A VW Bug was the response. He only has owned pickups for 30+ years. Not even sure he would fit in a VW Bug.

License plate reader really sucks.

Didn't the plane leave at like 10am why so long of a flight ?

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Didn't the plane leave at like 10am why so long of a flight ?

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fuel stop...small plane

I flew to Houston from San Antonio this afternoon with a 65 mph tail wind.

Took me 45 minutes for the flight into west Houston.

Flying back took me 1;25 minutes.

I was at 9500'

Those winds can be brutal at higher altitudes.

We have quite a few Pilatus 12s at our field, as a mechanic, I have had the pleasure of working on a few. Not very fast and I have been told a very boring plane to fly. Normally, one pilot. I don't remember seeing a seated potty but a Cessna 414 (twin) has one and they are smaller planes so it wouldn't surprise me.

Personally, I think they are beautiful airplanes and sound great on the runway coming and going.

He's not back yet?

He should have splurged for a Gulfstream. No fuel stops

Plane is over Idaho. Looked to be making a beeline for Pullman/Moscow area, but just took a turn due west.