Have y'all heard about this case? It is extremely weird the more that comes out.

Four college students were all murdered in the same house while other roomates were there but didn't know or hear what was happening. The cops say they really don't have any suspects outside of a dude on a Twitch stream from a food truck who seemed to be stalking 2 of the murdered college students. There's also a picture of blood running down the outside of the house that was leaking from the inside.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/roommates-home-idaho-college-students-stabbed-death/story?id=93428236

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The students, who were killed early Sunday morning and found hours later, were identified as Ethan Chapin, 20, of Conway, Washington; Madison Mogen, 21, of Coeur d'Alene, Idaho; Xana Kernodle, 20, of Avondale, Arizona; and Kaylee Goncalves, 21, of Rathdrum, Idaho.

Two other roommates were home at the time of the crime, and they were not hurt, Fry said. It was not a hostage situation, he added.

Those roommates were home when police responded to a call for an unconscious individual at about noon on Sunday, Fry said.

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-may-looking-one-suspect-idaho-college-slayings-prosecutor-says-rcna57654

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With no one apprehended in the brutal slayings of four University of Idaho students in an off-campus home, it "certainly is possible" there may be more than one suspect, a local prosecutor said Thursday.
"At this point, the investigators are looking at all possibilities. They don't have a specific suspect," Latah County Prosecutor Bill Thompson told NBC's "TODAY" show.

"We're really hoping for any information from the public to help recreate everyone's activities," he added.

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https://www.npr.org/2022/11/17/1137348695/idaho-police-say-they-have-no-suspect-in-the-slaying-of-4-college-students

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Police in the college town of Moscow said Wednesday they have not identified a suspect or found a weapon in the weekend slayings of four University of Idaho students in a rental house near campus.

Authorities continue to believe the attack was targeted but walked back a previous statement that there was no threat to the public.

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I have. It's awful.

There was footage of the two girls at a food truck about 1:45 in the morning, they say they were killed about 3-4 am. Left to bleed out.

First the police said it seemed targeted then they said they don't know.

Apparently two other roommates were home but escaped the carnage.

Just awful.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11436575/the-two-Idaho-students-survived-bloody-frenzy-roommates-murdered.html

Bad situation. Always stay strapped less ye get clapped.

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I have been following this case a little bit. Very weird that two of the roommates slept through all of that. It seems the cops are holding back some information still.

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It's possible the rooms/house was not contiguous, that they maybe were in another area completely unconnected.

The four in the middle were the ones killed, this photo was taken hours before the murders. The two girls on the ends were not attacked.

I saw this earlier in the week but didn't want to post in a politics board.

the survivor guilt must be insane for the two roommates

Now that I've actually read about this, it is pretty bizarre that they have no suspects in a town that small, many of which are college kids. I assume they're doing DNA analysis like crazy. There has to be something at a crime scene that savage.

Been keeping up with it & agree it's a very strange case in that college town. Apparently there was so much blood that the blood saturated the walls and was leaking outside running down the slab of the house.

I've only heard knife type wounds? This isn't the movies, that's usually pretty savage and noisy.

The house seemed to have the reputation for being party central in the neighborhood. Nothing good happens when college students rent a house and there is little control on who goes in and out.

BurnetAggie99 said:

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Been keeping up with it & agree it's a very strange case in that college town. Apparently there was so much blood that the blood saturated the walls and was leaking outside running down the slab of the house.

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To have that much blood, specific arteries would all need to be opened. Average adult has between 8-12 pints of blood in their body. But arterial sprays cease when the heart stops beating and the blood pools within the body tissue because of gravity, called postmortem lividity or livor mortis.

8 pints=1 gallon of blood per body. 12 pints=1.5 gallons. Four bodies, 4-6 gallons of blood and that is only if they are completely drained.

Very sad very horrific.
Not only do you have the two girls not attacked on that pic or at the house you also have the picture taker. Thats 3 closely related time wise to crime.
Police said crime of passion and the other two are cooperating (this is an interesting word use for what they just went through). These 4 likely all in the same bedroom.
Nothing called till noon and wording supposedly unconscious. if the other 2/3 not involved with the murder than most certainly involved in drugs/sex etc that is at the least embarrassing. Initially police said not a threat to community so likely their initial suspects (the other 2 girls) did not come to be while they had them in for questioning/counseling or they are not fessing up so its taking time to secure the evidence to them.

First 911 words should be OMG come quick there is blood everywhere.

Prayers for the families & friends of the victims, such a tragedy drugs or not.

Sid Farkas said:

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Heck, the FBI would do a better job then they seem to be.

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Kidding, right? The FBI would search Mara Lago after obtaining a warrant under false pretenses, then leak lies to a cooperative press. Trump or one of his associates would be indicted for these murders within 48 hours.

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It was a dig at the local police.

Video of two of the girls at a food truck before they went home (yeah, CNN, sorry)

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/11/17/us/university-of-idaho-killings-thursday/index.html

Autopsies completed. Results not released to the public yet, but some information was already sent to law enforcement. Same knife used to kill all four.

https://www.krem.com/amp/article/news/crime/university-of-idaho-students-killed/autopsies-completed-university-of-idaho-students/293-cc8de95c-e92d-411c-abe9-bee2ac30b3c4

I think it could happen.

Fear InoculAg said:

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I think it could happen.

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Can you provide a scenario? We know that the two girls were together and arrived to the house at the same time. Someone hiding in a closet or bathroom? Approach from behind and Colombian necktie, ear to ear? Deep enough cut would sever vocal chords. That would work for the first victim.

Having a hard time envisioning how it would work for successive victims.

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Moscow Idaho has a population of slightly less than 26,000. Likely a pretty small police force, county authorities combined would still be a small force. And that sounds like the type of crime scene they have never seen before.

I have serious doubts this was a lone killer.

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Pullman Washington where Washington state is right across the border like 8 miles away

aggiehawg said:

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Moscow Idaho has a population of slightly less than 26,000. Likely a pretty small police force, county authorities combined would still be a small force. And that sounds like the type of crime scene they have never seen before.

I have serious doubts this was a lone killer.

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I think it's fair to say the local PD might be in deeper waters than they are used to:

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The killings and the lack of information from authorities have rankled residents of Moscow, a city of 25,000 that hasn't recorded a murder since 2015

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Fear InoculAg said:

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UTExan said:

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The house seemed to have the reputation for being party central in the neighborhood. Nothing good happens when college students rent a house and there is little control on who goes in and out.

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Another bizarre response that actually made me laugh. "Nothing good happens" at a college party house would be like, your keys get stolen or a window gets broken. Not four people get brutally stabbed to death. Kinda sounds like you think they had it coming for partying too hard.

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Not at all. Fact: college students are generally stupid / naive about the homicidal ways of a certain percentage of the population.

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aggiehawg said:

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Moscow Idaho has a population of slightly less than 26,000. Likely a pretty small police force, county authorities combined would still be a small force. And that sounds like the type of crime scene they have never seen before.

I have serious doubts this was a lone killer.

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Pullman Washington where Washington state is right across the border like 8 miles away

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Thank you for that additional information. Knew it was near the state border but not that close to Pullman.

aggiehawg said:

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Fear InoculAg said:

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I think it could happen.

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Can you provide a scenario? We know that the two girls were together and arrived to the house at the same time. Someone hiding in a closet or bathroom? Approach from behind and Colombian necktie, ear to ear? Deep enough cut would sever vocal chords. That would work for the first victim.

Having a hard time envisioning how it would work for successive victims.

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If they're all in the same room, walk in, stab the male immediately, and then overpower the females. A strong male suspect could do that if they weren't expecting violence. Also, this was in the middle of the night in a large house presumably while the other two roommates were asleep in other rooms. You're assuming too much if you think they would have woken up or would have paid attention even if they heard faint screaming in a house where they were partying all the time. If it was a hide-in-the-closet scenario, that makes it even easier for one person.

It would really surprise me if this was two people given the facts we know even if it may seem difficult for one person to do. I could be wrong though obviously.

If it is two or more people, what is the scenario? So far they are saying it appears to be a "crime of passion." But by 2+ people who are not professional killers and were just angry or something? Unlikely that 2 people fly off the handle like that out of "passion" and both actually go through with a crime, especially if they don't have any suspects. Or is it completely random? In that case, what are the odds you have 2+ people just trawling around together looking to commit mass homicide? I realize we're already in the world of the unlikely with this crime happening in the first place, but this just seems like one person to me.

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aggiehawg said:

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Moscow Idaho has a population of slightly less than 26,000. Likely a pretty small police force, county authorities combined would still be a small force. And that sounds like the type of crime scene they have never seen before.

I have serious doubts this was a lone killer.

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I think it's fair to say the local PD might be in deeper waters than they are used to:

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The killings and the lack of information from authorities have rankled residents of Moscow, a city of 25,000 that hasn't recorded a murder since 2015

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As I expected.

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If it is two or more people, what is the scenario? So far they are saying it appears to be a "crime of passion." But by 2+ people who are not professional killers and were just angry or something?

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Crime of passion theory is being walked back. This is serial killer(s) territory.

And yes, serial killers do work together.

https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/article/deaths-darkest-duos-5-truly-devastating-serial-killing-partnerships