This was speculated very early on in the investigation when no suspect was identified. Several other area murders had remarkable similarities and it was proposed that this was possibly a serial killer (before the idaho4).

NPH- said:

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This was speculated very early on in the investigation when no suspect was identified. Several other area murders had remarkable similarities and it was proposed that this was possibly a serial killer (before the idaho4).

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And I was one of those speculating if it was a serial killer. For such a bloody crime scene, it was miraculously devoid of evidence as to the perpetrator.

Anyway, I will tune in a few hours to get Peter's take.

I think he was a budding serial killer who wasn't very smart.

torrid said:

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I think he was a budding serial killer who wasn't very smart.

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Not so sure about that. It was registering his car in WA that got him on the radar. Had he just dropped out of school and scooted back home to PA right after the murders, they may not have caught him.

Let's see what Peter has.

Going live in a few seconds.

Ugh. Big nothing burger.

Amazing how well these gag orders are working. Been mostly silence the last couple months

zgolfz85 said:

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Amazing how well these gag orders are working. Been mostly silence the last couple months

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Agree.

This whole question was raised simply because his DNA was being run through cold case files in PA. A very usual occurence when a suspected perp doesn't have a prexisting profile in the database.

I got duped thinking there was maybe something else.

Car or house?

aggiehawg said:

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Car or house?

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The article I read said car.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11952043/amp/A-smoking-license-ID-connected-Idaho-murder-victim-Bryan-Kohbergers-car.html

With the gag order in place, not surprised that the existence of the ID would be leaked but the location wherein found would be more ambiguous.

Resubscribing. Somehow this thread dropped off my list.

bonfarr said:

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One of the victim's IDs was found in Kohburger's car. Looks like he kept it as a trophy item.

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If this is true what a moron.

We gave this dude way too much credit, a true mental midget

TexasRebel said:

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Resubscribing. Somehow this thread dropped off my list.

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Mine too! I didn't unsubscribe though. I wonder if it automatically falls off If no activity after a while

What's the timeline on when this goes to trial or next steps?

next court date is June 26 I believe

FOX NEWS: Idaho student murders: Bryan Kohberger defense claims surviving roommate has 'exculpatory' evidence

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Of the two survivors, one allegedly heard a commotion and witnessed a masked man exit through a rear sliding door, according to a police affidavit.

The second, a Nevada native named in the Nevada court filing made public Monday, allegedly heard or saw things that could clear the suspect, according to Richard Bitonti, a defense investigator working for Anne Taylor, Kohberger's court-appointed attorney.

In the documents, obtained by Fox News Digital, the subpoena demands the roommate's appearance on June 28, two days into Kohberger's planned preliminary hearing, and warns of a potential fine of $500 or 25 days in jail if she refuses to appear.

"During the course of my investigation, it became known to me that [she] has information material to the charges against Mr. Kohberger," Bitonti wrote in an affidavit in support of the subpoena, revealed Monday after online sleuths found the case listed on a Washoe County, Nevada, court docket.

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Are they going to claim the other roommate is framing him?

i don't see how exculpatory the evidence can be if in fact they found his dna on the knife sheath....

unless the evidence is surviving roommate planted said evidence.

If everything we've heard is true, there'd have to be video of someone else murdering them.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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If everything we've heard is true, there'd have to be video of someone else murdering them.

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Not so fast. Not saying the bust is bad but not an open and shut case yet.

Very bloody scene. Stabbings. His touch DNA (most unreliable and subject to question) on the snap of the sheath, without much more DNA and trace evidence? That "should" be there?

Juries are unpredictable. A guy just was convicted of murder in Kenosha Wisconsin on the following evidence:

• no body
• large but not bleed out size blood at missing person's apartment
• zero DNA from missing person in the accused's vehicle
• zero DNA nor trace evidence of the accused in the missing person's apartment
• missing person was cheating on GF who was the ex/baby mama of the accusedsaid GF pointed at accused immediately and he was arrested that day.
• missing person owed money to a lot of people, not including the accused

No physical evidence connecting him with the crime. None. But he was convicted anyway.

BK is a head case, no doubt but without the forensic evidence to put him there? Still some reasonable doubt there.

I watched that trial. Can't figure out that jury.

MsDoubleD81 said:

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I watched that trial. Can't figure out that jury.

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Never was able to see voir dire to see how screwed up that was in jury selection.

I think we did share an embarrassed laugh about the jury just standing up on their own and starting to walk out when the daughter blurted out that she was threatened by her father. By that time, jury knew when Judge Schroeder would send them out. Sure most of them were wearing running shoes after the first day or two.

For jury duty, they got their daily steps in.

I hope they allow cameras for the trial. Been too hard to keep up with the Lori Vallow Daybell case!!

What was his name? I want to look up his case.

aggiehawg said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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If everything we've heard is true, there'd have to be video of someone else murdering them.

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Not so fast. Not saying the bust is bad but not an open and shut case yet.

Very bloody scene. Stabbings. His touch DNA (most unreliable and subject to question) on the snap of the sheath, without much more DNA and trace evidence? That "should" be there?

Juries are unpredictable. A guy just was convicted of murder in Kenosha Wisconsin on the following evidence:

• no body
• large but not bleed out size blood at missing person's apartment
• zero DNA from missing person in the accused's vehicle
• zero DNA nor trace evidence of the accused in the missing person's apartment
• missing person was cheating on GF who was the ex/baby mama of the accused said GF pointed at accused immediately and he was arrested that day.
• missing person owed money to a lot of people, not including the accused

No physical evidence connecting him with the crime. None. But he was convicted anyway.

BK is a head case, no doubt but without the forensic evidence to put him there? Still some reasonable doubt there.

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In addition to the evidence that has been discussed at length on this thread, driving back to the scene at 9:00am will seal his fate in my opinion.

aggiehawg said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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If everything we've heard is true, there'd have to be video of someone else murdering them.

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Not so fast. Not saying the bust is bad but not an open and shut case yet.

Very bloody scene. Stabbings. His touch DNA (most unreliable and subject to question) on the snap of the sheath, without much more DNA and trace evidence? That "should" be there?

Juries are unpredictable. A guy just was convicted of murder in Kenosha Wisconsin on the following evidence:

• no body
• large but not bleed out size blood at missing person's apartment
• zero DNA from missing person in the accused's vehicle
• zero DNA nor trace evidence of the accused in the missing person's apartment
• missing person was cheating on GF who was the ex/baby mama of the accusedsaid GF pointed at accused immediately and he was arrested that day.
• missing person owed money to a lot of people, not including the accused

No physical evidence connecting him with the crime. None. But he was convicted anyway.

BK is a head case, no doubt but without the forensic evidence to put him there? Still some reasonable doubt there.

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Man, Kenosha sure sounds like one **** hole of a city.

So today, I had a meeting on the University of Idaho campus. It's my first time over there since the murders. I did not realize how close the house is to the campus!! So I drove over there to check it out... I know, I'm an idiot.

The windows and doors are all boarded up and the crime scene tape is still around the perimeter. There was a police car parked in the lot presumably watching me very closely as I awkwardly drove by, did a u-turn, and left.

What was especially creepy to me was when I drove across the field up Nez Perce Drive, there are several frat or sorority houses right there. You can CLEARLY SEE the house boarded up from all of those houses. What a horrible reminder to see every day from your home!

If I did this right, you can see the top floor of the house just over the gray car parked in the foreground. The boarded-up windows were very obvious from this location, about 1/8 of a mile away!
Google Map from Nez Perce Drive

So weird seeing it in that state when we've seen so many pictures, google streetview, etc. so much. Thanks for posting...even if weird!!

Today is the arraignment. Any surprises today?