Yes -- only the erudite like you can read and comprehend details in information.......corndog04 said:
Sorry, headlines matter here. Not content.
.... what a troll.
Yes -- only the erudite like you can read and comprehend details in information.......corndog04 said:
Sorry, headlines matter here. Not content.
B-1 83 said:
That's nice. Now do heart damage in general after COVID infection, not just myocarditis inflammation.
What does that have to do with the topic at hand? Myocarditis is not the only potential heart issue with vaccines or actual COVID. That was my point, and it got the expected responses like clockwork.neAGle96 said:B-1 83 said:
That's nice. Now do heart damage in general after COVID infection, not just myocarditis inflammation.
Does the vaccine prevent infection?
B-1 83 said:
That's nice. Now do heart damage in general after COVID infection, not just myocarditis inflammation.
I remember...Stat Monitor Repairman said:
We still arguing about this.
After all that's happened, we still arguing about this.
You go back to March 2020 on here.
The earliest threads about covid on here discussed the possibility of forced vaccinations, and their being a huge **** up arising out of a hastily rolled out vaccination programme.
We've been. talking about all this since day 1 of covid.
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Everything about covid was a lie.
It was all bull**** and the biggest scam of all time.
Nobody said that. I simply pointed out that COVID can cause heart damage, and off the vaccine rails you went. Classic.rgag12 said:B-1 83 said:
That's nice. Now do heart damage in general after COVID infection, not just myocarditis inflammation.
So people should take a vaccine that will not prevent infection, provide negligible benefit in reducing symptoms from infection, damage their heart, AND contract the virus that will damage their heart EVEN MORE, (if natural infection indeed causes damage)?
Brilliant!
You answered your own question.samurai_science said:
This exact narrative was used on this forum to dismiss the studies showing heart damage in teenage boys from the vaccine.
Still can't not sure why idiots are vaxxing kids.
You get that logical stuff out of here!JJxvi said:
Whether the vaccine has some side effects like this is almost red herring argument. They pretty much all have side effects. If thousands of people out of a hundred million have some heart issues, that's no big deal if the vaccine actually keeps hundreds of thousands off ventilators or something. The issue is really whether it works at all and is actually providing the stated benefits in exchange for those risks.
JJxvi said:
Whether the vaccine has some side effects like this is almost red herring argument. They pretty much all have side effects. If thousands of people out of a hundred million have some heart issues, that's no big deal if the vaccine actually keeps hundreds of thousands off ventilators or something. The issue is really whether it works at all and is actually providing the stated benefits in exchange for those risks.
This....and the vaccine narrative was pushed as the only alternative while any mentioned covid prophylactics were blacklisted.TRADUCTOR said:JJxvi said:
Whether the vaccine has some side effects like this is almost red herring argument. They pretty much all have side effects. If thousands of people out of a hundred million have some heart issues, that's no big deal if the vaccine actually keeps hundreds of thousands off ventilators or something. The issue is really whether it works at all and is actually providing the stated benefits in exchange for those risks.
Being poked by a needle was the only side effect before the vaccine definition was changed. Death from theCOVID is so infinitesimal, that's no big deal IF the vaccine keeps people off the ventilator.
Hint: it isn't and didn'tJJxvi said:
Whether the vaccine has some side effects like this is almost red herring argument. They pretty much all have side effects. If thousands of people out of a hundred million have some heart issues, that's no big deal if the vaccine actually keeps hundreds of thousands off ventilators or something. The issue is really whether it works at all and is actually providing the stated benefits in exchange for those risks.
tamc93 said:
Just ask them why they still want to be an "emergency drug".
They want to avoid approval to so they do not have to add all of the labels/warnings in their ads.
Nice study thanks for the link! I've been very apprehensive about vaccinating healthy kids from the beginning and continue to advise caution and careful consideration of risk vs benefit for kids. In addition there was a study that came out yesterday showing only 3 month efficacy for mRNA vaccine in kids 6 months-11 years-- 3 months!Bronco6G said:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9025013/
Add this to the list of lies. It was known that the mRNA shots were associated with increased risks of myocarditis. The counter by the pro-vaccine crowd was that natural infection led to the same increased risks, so it was a wash. That is not the caseQuote:
Our data suggest that there is no increase in the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in COVID-19 recovered patients compared to uninfected matched controls. Further longer-term studies will be needed to estimate the incidence of pericarditis and myocarditis in patients diagnosed with COVID-19.
shiftyandquick said:
How many people died from covid itself?
Yeah, Nobody died from that crapStat Monitor Repairman said:
Everything about covid was a lie.
It was all bull**** and the biggest scam of all time.
2040huck said:Yeah, Nobody died from that crapStat Monitor Repairman said:
Everything about covid was a lie.
It was all bull**** and the biggest scam of all time.
Yep, that **** is realRocky Rider said:Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Everything about covid was a lie.
It was all bull**** and the biggest scam of all time.
But $10T of additional debt and printed dollars.
Destroyed the supply chain which still hasn't recovered
Harmed development of young children
Increased drug addiction and suicide rates
On and on…
Daddy-O5 said:
In before "BuT WhAt AbOuT LoNg CoViD!?"
Of course it doesn't show what they think it does. But that won't change anyone's mind. Everyone here is an expert at reading research papers and data.oldyeller said:
The study seems to only be talking about in recovered patients, while granting that there may be a higher incidence of myocarditis during acute illness, so it may not show what many here believe it does.Quote:
It has recently been reported that the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis is increased in COVID-19 patients during the acute illness [12]. However; whether or not myocarditis and pericarditis after the recovery period are a part of the long COVID-19 syndrome is yet unknown. Herein, we studied the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in a large cohort of COVID-19 patients after recovering from the acute infection.
Outstanding timing.PatriotAg02 said:
Covid was a political maneuver that still has ramifications today. Sorry that some of you fell for it.
**** those lying hateful POS authoritarian Marxist mother ****ers to kingdom come. Unkindly.samurai_science said: