corndog04 said:

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Sorry, headlines matter here. Not content.

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Yes -- only the erudite like you can read and comprehend details in information.......

.... what a troll.

That's nice. Now do heart damage in general after COVID infection, not just myocarditis inflammation.

B-1 83 said:

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That's nice. Now do heart damage in general after COVID infection, not just myocarditis inflammation.

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Does the vaccine prevent infection?

neAGle96 said:

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B-1 83 said:

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That's nice. Now do heart damage in general after COVID infection, not just myocarditis inflammation.

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Does the vaccine prevent infection?

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What does that have to do with the topic at hand? Myocarditis is not the only potential heart issue with vaccines or actual COVID. That was my point, and it got the expected responses like clockwork.

How many people died from covid itself?

In the view of some people here, almost no on died of covid. It was all lies, they died of other things that were wrongly attributed to covid.

And according to the same people, almost every single death among people who were vaccinated, is from the vaccine.

Hmm. Interesting.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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We still arguing about this.

After all that's happened, we still arguing about this.

You go back to March 2020 on here.

The earliest threads about covid on here discussed the possibility of forced vaccinations, and their being a huge **** up arising out of a hastily rolled out vaccination programme.

We've been. talking about all this since day 1 of covid.

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I remember...

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3192683/replies/59077431

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Everything about covid was a lie.

It was all bull**** and the biggest scam of all time.

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truth

rgag12 said:

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B-1 83 said:

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That's nice. Now do heart damage in general after COVID infection, not just myocarditis inflammation.

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So people should take a vaccine that will not prevent infection, provide negligible benefit in reducing symptoms from infection, damage their heart, AND contract the virus that will damage their heart EVEN MORE, (if natural infection indeed causes damage)?

Brilliant!

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Nobody said that. I simply pointed out that COVID can cause heart damage, and off the vaccine rails you went. Classic.

samurai_science said:

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This exact narrative was used on this forum to dismiss the studies showing heart damage in teenage boys from the vaccine.

Still can't not sure why idiots are vaxxing kids.

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You answered your own question.

Whether the vaccine has some side effects like this is almost red herring argument. They pretty much all have side effects. If thousands of people out of a hundred million have some heart issues, that's no big deal if the vaccine actually keeps hundreds of thousands off ventilators or something. The issue is really whether it works at all and is actually providing the stated benefits in exchange for those risks.

JJxvi said:

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Whether the vaccine has some side effects like this is almost red herring argument. They pretty much all have side effects. If thousands of people out of a hundred million have some heart issues, that's no big deal if the vaccine actually keeps hundreds of thousands off ventilators or something. The issue is really whether it works at all and is actually providing the stated benefits in exchange for those risks.

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You get that logical stuff out of here!

JJxvi said:

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Whether the vaccine has some side effects like this is almost red herring argument. They pretty much all have side effects. If thousands of people out of a hundred million have some heart issues, that's no big deal if the vaccine actually keeps hundreds of thousands off ventilators or something. The issue is really whether it works at all and is actually providing the stated benefits in exchange for those risks.

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Being poked by a needle was the only side effect before the vaccine definition was changed. Death from theCOVID is so infinitesimal, that's no big deal IF the vaccine keeps people off the ventilator.

TRADUCTOR said:

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JJxvi said:

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Whether the vaccine has some side effects like this is almost red herring argument. They pretty much all have side effects. If thousands of people out of a hundred million have some heart issues, that's no big deal if the vaccine actually keeps hundreds of thousands off ventilators or something. The issue is really whether it works at all and is actually providing the stated benefits in exchange for those risks.

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Being poked by a needle was the only side effect before the vaccine definition was changed. Death from theCOVID is so infinitesimal, that's no big deal IF the vaccine keeps people off the ventilator.

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This....and the vaccine narrative was pushed as the only alternative while any mentioned covid prophylactics were blacklisted.

JJxvi said:

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Whether the vaccine has some side effects like this is almost red herring argument. They pretty much all have side effects. If thousands of people out of a hundred million have some heart issues, that's no big deal if the vaccine actually keeps hundreds of thousands off ventilators or something. The issue is really whether it works at all and is actually providing the stated benefits in exchange for those risks.

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Hint: it isn't and didn't

The abstract points to two cohorts:

• 196,992 adults after COVID-19 infection (doesn't specify inoculation status)
• 590,976 adults with at least one negative PCR and no positive PCR (doesn't specify inoculation status)

Given that Israel had vaccination mandates, it's fair to assume most of them those had the vax.
This first cohort:

• 9 developed myocarditis
• 11 were diagnosed with pericarditis

The second cohort:

• 27 developed myocarditis
• 52 were diagnosed with pericarditis

Since the second group is 3x the first, if we normalize the numbers for the first group we get:

• 27 developed myocarditis
• 33 were diagnosed with pericarditis

Comparing the two cohorts with the ~same number of people - each cohort had 27 develop myocarditis and the second group (most likely vaccinated) had 19 more diagnosed with pericarditis.
Am I reading that right?

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tamc93 said:

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Just ask them why they still want to be an "emergency drug".

They want to avoid approval to so they do not have to add all of the labels/warnings in their ads.

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There are no warning labels on the ads for the vax nor the treatment drug bc your tax $$ are still paying for them.

Bronco6G said:

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9025013/

Add this to the list of lies. It was known that the mRNA shots were associated with increased risks of myocarditis. The counter by the pro-vaccine crowd was that natural infection led to the same increased risks, so it was a wash. That is not the case

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Our data suggest that there is no increase in the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in COVID-19 recovered patients compared to uninfected matched controls. Further longer-term studies will be needed to estimate the incidence of pericarditis and myocarditis in patients diagnosed with COVID-19.

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Nice study thanks for the link! I've been very apprehensive about vaccinating healthy kids from the beginning and continue to advise caution and careful consideration of risk vs benefit for kids. In addition there was a study that came out yesterday showing only 3 month efficacy for mRNA vaccine in kids 6 months-11 years-- 3 months!

shiftyandquick said:

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How many people died from covid itself?

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Not many, at all, honestly. Even if 100% were "from COVID".

So few, in fact, the term "pandemic" is laughable. A pandemic kills a decent percentage of the population. This was so weak that the population grew.

Weakest "pandemic", ever.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Everything about covid was a lie.

It was all bull**** and the biggest scam of all time.

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Yeah, Nobody died from that crap

2040huck said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Everything about covid was a lie.

It was all bull**** and the biggest scam of all time.

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Yeah, Nobody died from that crap

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More healthy young people will have died from the vax than from covid. Mandating for healthy people under 30 is criminal

The "doctors", "scientists" and "virologists" of F16 hard at work this morning.

Rocky Rider said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Everything about covid was a lie.

It was all bull**** and the biggest scam of all time.

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But $10T of additional debt and printed dollars.
Destroyed the supply chain which still hasn't recovered
Harmed development of young children
Increased drug addiction and suicide rates
On and on…

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Yep, that **** is real

The medical profession became a joke during Covid following like blind sheep and worse approving of censorship of any questioning

Daddy-O5 said:

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In before "BuT WhAt AbOuT LoNg CoViD!?"

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Taylor Lorenz has long Covid I think. It made her unhinged.

oldyeller said:

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The study seems to only be talking about in recovered patients, while granting that there may be a higher incidence of myocarditis during acute illness, so it may not show what many here believe it does.

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It has recently been reported that the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis is increased in COVID-19 patients during the acute illness [12]. However; whether or not myocarditis and pericarditis after the recovery period are a part of the long COVID-19 syndrome is yet unknown. Herein, we studied the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in a large cohort of COVID-19 patients after recovering from the acute infection.

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Of course it doesn't show what they think it does. But that won't change anyone's mind. Everyone here is an expert at reading research papers and data.

PatriotAg02 said:

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Covid was a political maneuver that still has ramifications today. Sorry that some of you fell for it.

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Outstanding timing.

Ended China's problem with the Hong Kong protests and reigned them back in.

Got rid of Trump.

Caused chaos and social unrest.

Destroyed global economy.

samurai_science said:

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**** those lying hateful POS authoritarian Marxist mother ****ers to kingdom come. Unkindly.