No myocarditis from Covid-19 natural infection

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9:02p, 11/9/22
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9025013/

Add this to the list of lies. It was known that the mRNA shots were associated with increased risks of myocarditis. The counter by the pro-vaccine crowd was that natural infection led to the same increased risks, so it was a wash. That is not the case

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Our data suggest that there is no increase in the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in COVID-19 recovered patients compared to uninfected matched controls. Further longer-term studies will be needed to estimate the incidence of pericarditis and myocarditis in patients diagnosed with COVID-19.
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My Name Is Judge
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9:03p, 11/9/22
No one with a brain actually believed that though…
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9:04p, 11/9/22
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Glad I never took that BS shot.
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9:04p, 11/9/22
The big clue with covid was how the big pharma/CDC machine completely ignored natural immunity. Hell, they're still ignoring it.
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9:07p, 11/9/22
And the pieces of **** who pimped this "vaccine," through either massive propaganda or threat of unemployment, denial of medical, or violence, now want to let bygones be bygones.

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In reply to TefIon Don • 9:07p, 11/9/22
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TefIon Don said:
Glad I never took that BS shot.

I was never going to take a rushed vaccine, but believe it or not my 21 year old college age son was adamant that no one in our family take it because of the myocarditis risk when it first came out.
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In reply to AnScAggie • 9:11p, 11/9/22
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AnScAggie said:
TefIon Don said:
Glad I never took that BS shot.

I was never going to take a rushed vaccine, but believe it or not my 21 year old college age son was adamant that no one in our family take it because of the myocarditis risk when it first came out.


Thank God you raised him to review facts and make a calculated decision.


Lord knows that 85%+ if the population wouldn't raise up their kids that way.
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9:14p, 11/9/22
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In before "BuT WhAt AbOuT LoNg CoViD!?"
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9:15p, 11/9/22
This exact narrative was used on this forum to dismiss the studies showing heart damage in teenage boys from the vaccine.

Still can't not sure why idiots are vaxxing kids.
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9:17p, 11/9/22
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Waiting for one of the covidians to show up and apologize for literally everything they said and did during the pandemic. People don't forget!
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In reply to ttha_aggie_09 • 9:20p, 11/9/22
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ttha_aggie_09 said:
Waiting for one of the covidians to show up and apologize for literally everything they said and did during the pandemic. People don't forget!

Don't hold your breath!
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9:42p, 11/9/22
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9:52p, 11/9/22
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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In reply to DrEvazanPhD • 10:01p, 11/9/22
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DrEvazanPhD said:
And the pieces of **** who pimped this "vaccine," through either massive propaganda or threat of unemployment, denial of medical, or violence, now want to let bygones be bygones.
But, they are not sorry or admitting that they were wrong. Plus they will do it all again if they can Gen Up a New Covid Variant. Do not Forgive and Never Forget.
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11:59p, 11/9/22
Everything about covid was a lie.

It was all bull**** and the biggest scam of all time.
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12:01a, 11/10/22
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Just ask them why they still want to be an "emergency drug".

They want to avoid approval to so they do not have to add all of the labels/warnings in their ads.
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 4:39a, 11/10/22
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Everything about covid was a lie.

It was all bull**** and the biggest scam of all time.


But $10T of additional debt and printed dollars.
Destroyed the supply chain which still hasn't recovered
Harmed development of young children
Increased drug addiction and suicide rates
On and on…

...the Big 12 is now viewed as the fifth of the big BCS leagues by many recruits. (Rivals.com national recruiting analyst Mike Farrell; August 2013)

Already the weakest of the “Power Five” conferences, the league (Big 12) is hemorrhaging fans, wins, TV ratings and respect. (SA Express R. Bragg; Oct 12, 2016)
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5:37a, 11/10/22
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The study seems to only be talking about in recovered patients, while granting that there may be a higher incidence of myocarditis during acute illness, so it may not show what many here believe it does.

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It has recently been reported that the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis is increased in COVID-19 patients during the acute illness [12]. However; whether or not myocarditis and pericarditis after the recovery period are a part of the long COVID-19 syndrome is yet unknown. Herein, we studied the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in a large cohort of COVID-19 patients after recovering from the acute infection.
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In reply to samurai_science • 6:12a, 11/10/22
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I'm surprised this wasn't made into a bigger issue for the midterms. It was only a year ago that threats were being made to ostracize everyone from society who did not "choose" to take the vaccine.
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In reply to DrEvazanPhD • 6:29a, 11/10/22
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DrEvazanPhD said:
And the pieces of **** who pimped this "vaccine," through either massive propaganda or threat of unemployment, denial of medical, or violence, now want to let bygones be bygones.

Don't forget a large subset of them all of a sudden care when the government tells them what the women can and cannot do with their bodies....

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In reply to oldyeller • 6:45a, 11/10/22
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Sorry, headlines matter here. Not content.
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In reply to TxAgLaw03RW • 7:15a, 11/10/22
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TxAgLaw03RW said:
I'm surprised this wasn't made into a bigger issue for the midterms. It was only a year ago that threats were being made to ostracize everyone from society who did not "choose" to take the vaccine.


Besides DeSantis and Paul the Rs were pretty silent while Biden pushed to force the mandate. Don't even recall this boards GOAT Cruz speaking out
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In reply to oldyeller • 7:42a, 11/10/22
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What is the duration of a CoVID case? 3 days? A week? Most symptomatic cases are under a week. That's not much time for myocardial damage to develop. It seems it would be exceedingly rare and probably limited to those long CoVID cases, but yes, this does indicate it hasn't been completely ruled out as a disease symptom.
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In reply to MouthBQ98 • 7:48a, 11/10/22
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MouthBQ98 said:
What is the duration of a CoVID case? 3 days? A week? Most symptomatic cases are under a week. That's not much time for myocardial damage to develop. It seems it would be exceedingly rare and probably limited to those long CoVID cases, but yes, this does indicate it hasn't been completely ruled out as a disease symptom.


According to this, for myocarditis cases from vaccine typical onset is 2-3 days after the dose. Not sure how this compares to onset duration for cases after natural covid or other viral infections. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788346
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7:54a, 11/10/22
Just months ago you were a conspiracy theorist if you thought:
-the virus came from a lab GoF program
-natural immunity was more robust than vax
-the vax didn't prevent spread or reinfection

The only thing more outrageous than being called a conspiracy theorist for common sense beliefs, is the fact there was no acknowledgement or accountability once the left was proven wrong. The absurdity of marginalizing truth tellers still continues, the NPCs think we have no memory like them.
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In reply to corndog04 • 8:20a, 11/10/22
corndog04 said:
MouthBQ98 said:
What is the duration of a CoVID case? 3 days? A week? Most symptomatic cases are under a week. That's not much time for myocardial damage to develop. It seems it would be exceedingly rare and probably limited to those long CoVID cases, but yes, this does indicate it hasn't been completely ruled out as a disease symptom.


According to this, for myocarditis cases from vaccine typical onset is 2-3 days after the dose. Not sure how this compares to onset duration for cases after natural covid or other viral infections. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788346
Well, the vaxx spike protein has been shown to stick around the heart and brain for months. Its looking like it may stick around for years.....


1) Spike Proteins (from the vaccine) stay in the heart/brain (rest of the body)
2) The Covid Virus is a non issue for most of the worlds population (see mortality study below)
3) The "vaccine" has been shown in multiple studies to be more dangerous for teen age boys than the virus.
4) This is just the beginning of the 6-10 years of safety studies (which were skipped) where we will learn about this horrible experimental "vaccine". I know the data will be censored in this country but in EU/Asia we should see some good data.



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8:22a, 11/10/22
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Covid was a political maneuver that still has ramifications today. Sorry that some of you fell for it.
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In reply to corndog04 • 8:25a, 11/10/22
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corndog04 said:
Sorry, headlines matter here. Not content.


Be sure to get your booster, Mr. Covid.
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11:35p, 1/3/23
We still arguing about this.

After all that's happened, we still arguing about this.

You go back to March 2020 on here.

The earliest threads about covid on here discussed the possibility of forced vaccinations, and their being a huge **** up arising out of a hastily rolled out vaccination programme.

We've been. talking about all this since day 1 of covid.
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In reply to Bronco6G • 11:41p, 1/3/23
Bronco6G said:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9025013/

Add this to the list of lies. It was known that the mRNA shots were associated with increased risks of myocarditis. The counter by the pro-vaccine crowd was that natural infection led to the same increased risks, so it was a wash. That is not the case

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Our data suggest that there is no increase in the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in COVID-19 recovered patients compared to uninfected matched controls. Further longer-term studies will be needed to estimate the incidence of pericarditis and myocarditis in patients diagnosed with COVID-19.
To all leftists who supported the silencing of discussion of myocarditis and pericarditis --- there is BLOOD on your hands in regards to those who are dying from it who got the shot and were denied the ability to be informed. But... then again... you probably wont care... because you don't even care about the blood of the unborn that you are covered in from head to toe.
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 11:42p, 1/3/23
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
We still arguing about this.

After all that's happened, we still arguing about this.

You go back to March 2020 on here.

The earliest threads about covid on here discussed the possibility of forced vaccinations, and their being a huge **** up arising out of a hastily rolled out vaccination programme.

We've been. talking about all this since day 1 of covid.
Seems like the early discussions were pretty close to correct....
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In reply to DrEvazanPhD • 11:44p, 1/3/23
DrEvazanPhD said:
And the pieces of **** who pimped this "vaccine," through either massive propaganda or threat of unemployment, denial of medical, or violence, now want to let bygones be bygones.

I want them in war crimes tribunals.

All of them.
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In reply to ttha_aggie_09 • 11:45p, 1/3/23
ttha_aggie_09 said:
Waiting for one of the covidians to show up and apologize for literally everything they said and did during the pandemic. People don't forget!
The only one I can think of is the actor Tim Robbins who surprised me and apologized for his cult like behavior.

I still disagree with him on a myriad of issues.... but I will take a win here.
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11:47p, 1/3/23
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My anger level continues to rise at getting these shots and is only offset by my own choice to get the first two shots.
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