Bret Grinder appeal - DENIED

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9:05a, 10/25/22
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Good thing Trump isn't in office because..... oops, no difference.

https://nypost.com/2022/10/25/russian-court-rejects-brittney-griners-appeal/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app&utm_source=reddit.com

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A Russian court on Tuesday rejected Brittney Griner's appeal after the jailed WNBA star begged for forgiveness for her "mistake" upholding her nine-year sentence on drug charges.

Griner and her lawyers had asked for acquittal or at least a more lenient sentence, which they said was disproportionate to the offense and at odds with Russian judicial practice.

The presiding judge said the verdict was upheld "without changes" except for the counting of time served in pre-trial detention as part of the sentence. Griner is now expected to be moved to a penal colony.
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9:13a, 10/25/22
No Soros judges in Russia Russia Russia and our dementia riddled pedo leader is don't care.
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9:16a, 10/25/22
can you imagine what would be said if trump were still president and griner was still in a russian jail?

what's the sad part is if he were president he/ she would already be home.
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9:22a, 10/25/22
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Don't think he is gonna like the gulag.
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9:27a, 10/25/22
just wait until Griner is eventually released and comes back to the US. Griner will start *****ing and claim it was America's fault, and somehow make it about being LQGBT and black.
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9:29a, 10/25/22
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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9:32a, 10/25/22
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A friend of mine is Lithuanian and his dad was born in a gulag in the 50s. His grandparents lived there for decades and basically just lived out their life as if it was like a resettlement camp rather than prison per se.

I am not saying it is club med, but maybe she will meet a nice Russian gal to settle down with.
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9:33a, 10/25/22
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Griner is an idiot, but should not be in jail for a victimless crime.
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In reply to Detmersdislocatedshoulder • 9:37a, 10/25/22
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:
can you imagine what would be said if trump were still president and griner was still in a russian jail?

what's the sad part is if he were president he/ she would already be home.
Not only that but s/he would be bad mouthing Trump left and right the minute the plane landed on American soil. If Griner even voted I'm sure it was Biden so you get what you voted for.
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9:38a, 10/25/22
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9:38a, 10/25/22
Never seeing that person again.
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9:39a, 10/25/22
Come on nba coaches and players!!! Put your money where your mouth is! Popovich? Lebron? Curry and his head coach? Shut it down until she's home and there is equal pay between nba and wnba!
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In reply to batchuser • 9:42a, 10/25/22
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batchuser said:
Come on nba coaches and players!!! Put your money where your mouth is! Popovich? Lebron? Curry and his head coach? Shut it down until she's home and there is equal pay between nba and wnba!
If Trump were President, they would be calling him out weekly and demanding her return. Yet for Biden, they're silent. I guess they only care when it's a Republican President running for re-election.
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In reply to batchuser • 9:43a, 10/25/22
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batchuser said:
Come on nba coaches and players!!! Put your money where your mouth is! Popovich? Lebron? Curry and his head coach? Shut it down until she's home and there is equal pay between nba and wnba!
Don't forget that whiner Steve Kerr.

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In reply to wbt5845 • 9:45a, 10/25/22
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Griner and her lawyers had asked for acquittal or at least a more lenient sentence, which they said was disproportionate to the offense and at odds with Russian judicial practice.
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In reply to Aggie4Life02 • 9:48a, 10/25/22
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Aggie4Life02 said:
Griner is an idiot, but should not be in jail for a victimless crime.


Couldn't disagree more. When you go to another country, you follow their rules. If you disagree with them, don't go to their country. If you think you could be a target in a country that doesn't like the U.S., (Iran, China, Russia, etc), you shouldn't go or you better watch what you do.

I know libs enjoy breaking the law over here and face no consequences, but in other countries, you aren't f'ing special anymore. You get treated like a conservative in the U.S. Don't like it? Don't go!

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9:51a, 10/25/22
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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9:52a, 10/25/22
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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In reply to Aggie4Life02 • 9:57a, 10/25/22
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Aggie4Life02 said:
Griner is an idiot, but should not be in jail for a victimless crime.
Don't commit crimes in Russia.
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9:59a, 10/25/22
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Should we be celebrating this? If so, why?
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In reply to Aggie4Life02 • 10:01a, 10/25/22
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Aggie4Life02 said:
Griner is an idiot, but should not be in jail for a victimless crime.
I know you won't agree with this, but it's lenient, "no harm, no foul" attitudes like this that have contributed to the decay of American society.

The drug trade, regardless of the derivative, has absolutely laid waste to countless victims.
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In reply to AggieVictor10 • 10:05a, 10/25/22
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AggieVictor10 said:
Should we be celebrating this? If so, why?
No. Its a bunch of small men enjoying the hypocrisy of someone that doesn't matter.

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In reply to CSTXAg92 • 10:09a, 10/25/22
CSTXAg92 said:
Aggie4Life02 said:
Griner is an idiot, but should not be in jail for a victimless crime.
I know you won't agree with this, but it's lenient, "no harm, no foul" attitudes like this that have contributed to the decay of American society.

The drug trade, regardless of the derivative, has absolutely laid waste to countless victims.
And why do we have a "drug trade" that lays waste to countless victims? Because they are illegal!
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In reply to Tex117 • 10:09a, 10/25/22
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Tex117 said:
AggieVictor10 said:
Should we be celebrating this? If so, why?
No. Its a bunch of small men enjoying the hypocrisy of someone that doesn't matter.
So you're a biologist?
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In reply to CSTXAg92 • 10:10a, 10/25/22
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CSTXAg92 said:
Tex117 said:
AggieVictor10 said:
Should we be celebrating this? If so, why?
No. Its a bunch of small men enjoying the hypocrisy of someone that doesn't matter.
So you're a biologist?
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In reply to Aggie4Life02 • 10:12a, 10/25/22
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Aggie4Life02 said:
Griner is an idiot, but should not be in jail for a victimless crime.


Spitting on the sidewalk is victimless. In Singapore that used to get you publicly whipped with a cane. Ask Micheal Fay just how he feels about that.

It's their country and their laws. Follow them or else.

Now is it political theater? Sure.
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In reply to Yellerjacket • 10:14a, 10/25/22
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Yellerjacket said:
CSTXAg92 said:
Aggie4Life02 said:
Griner is an idiot, but should not be in jail for a victimless crime.
I know you won't agree with this, but it's lenient, "no harm, no foul" attitudes like this that have contributed to the decay of American society.

The drug trade, regardless of the derivative, has absolutely laid waste to countless victims.
And why do we have a "drug trade" that lays waste to countless victims? Because they are illegal!
Lol, wut? So if we make drugs legal, all the social damage caused by people using drugs just vanish? You serious Clark? Alcohol is legal and it causes massive damage as well.
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10:16a, 10/25/22
Can we not go out of our way to call Brittney Griner a man? She is probably a rare intersex person who was identified as a female at birth.

Either way, this whole line of conversation reeks of bigotry and takes away from the actual issue at hand.
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In reply to American Hardwood • 10:20a, 10/25/22
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This is Russia. Where does "we" come into play.
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In reply to American Hardwood • 10:20a, 10/25/22
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Good grief. It is impossible to eliminate negative externalities.

Even if everyone who drank alcohol and/or did drugs never did either outside of their own home, yes, there would still be negative effects.

Your argument that all should be banned because we cannot have perfection is a bad one because it is not grounded in reality. Reality is that if, at least weed, were decriminalized, there would be a lot fewer people sitting in jail just because they wanted to get loaded differently than someone who got drunk.

There is no such thing as a perfect solution, but reducing petty crimes for things people do in their own homes that do not directly affect the liberties of others is a good idea.
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In reply to American Hardwood • 10:23a, 10/25/22
American Hardwood said:
Yellerjacket said:
CSTXAg92 said:
Aggie4Life02 said:
Griner is an idiot, but should not be in jail for a victimless crime.
I know you won't agree with this, but it's lenient, "no harm, no foul" attitudes like this that have contributed to the decay of American society.

The drug trade, regardless of the derivative, has absolutely laid waste to countless victims.
And why do we have a "drug trade" that lays waste to countless victims? Because they are illegal!
Lol, wut? So if we make drugs legal, all the social damage caused by people using drugs just vanish? You serious Clark? Alcohol is legal and it causes massive damage as well.
I don't really have a problem with harmful drugs being illegal. At least illegal to manufacture or sell. Marijuana doesn't fall into that category.

If someone gets pulled over or searched and "possesses" marijuana (or even cocaine or somesuch), there is no reason to throw that person in jail. They haven't harmed anyone.
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In reply to Aggie4Life02 • 10:23a, 10/25/22
Aggie4Life02 said:
Griner is an idiot, but should not be in jail for a victimless crime.
Tell it to the Ruskies. Their country, their laws, their punishment. You got the idiot part right, though.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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In reply to AggieVictor10 • 10:24a, 10/25/22
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AggieVictor10 said:
Should we be celebrating this? If so, why?


Hopefully it will be a similar tale to the prodigal son. Somebody who wasn't grateful for living in the only country in the world that allowed her to live her life the way she wanted yet didn't show an ounce of appreciation for it. Hopefully she'll come back grateful for how we do things in this country and be a good representative of us.
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In reply to CDUB98 • 10:26a, 10/25/22
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CDUB98 said:
Good grief. It is impossible to eliminate negative externalities.

Even if everyone who drank alcohol and/or did drugs never did either outside of their own home, yes, there would still be negative effects.

Your argument that all should be banned because we cannot have perfection is a bad one because it is not grounded in reality. Reality is that if, at least weed, were decriminalized, there would be a lot fewer people sitting in jail just because they wanted to get loaded differently than someone who got drunk.

There is no such thing as a perfect solution, but reducing petty crimes for things people do in their own homes that do not directly affect the liberties of others is a good idea.
You are overshooting the target. I never suggested any absolutes on drug laws nor any perfect solution. My reply was directed at the comment that suggested the only reason there is there is social damage is because there are laws against the use of drugs. This is absurdly not true as the example of alcohol.

Whether or not laws are strict or relaxed has a debatable effect on what the use of drugs does to people and their communities other than affect the numbers of drug users that may be on the streets causing harm.
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10:26a, 10/25/22
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Now, having said that, Britney did indeed violate the laws of Russia, and "she" is getting the punishment for it. None of us travelling to another country should expect to have our American laws follow, and our opinion on another country's laws does matter one bit.
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