This is going great!

This detail (the questioner is Turner) is consistent with what multiple reports have said--that Trump lied to the lawyers about there being classified docs--but it confirms it.

So NARA knows these docs were repacked, and NARA knows the lawyers didn't warn them abt CLASS docs. pic.twitter.com/vSEZ1rETfp

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) May 17, 2023

Why is the budget for the CIA "classified"??

Trump begging for a meeting with Attorney General Garland. Things must be going great.

That letter is more of a press release than a beg. If he is begging he wouldn't write a letter that would piss off the recipient.

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That letter is more of a press release than a beg. If he is begging he wouldn't write a letter that would piss off the recipient.

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That letter is obviously begging because he knows he's about to be indicted.

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FIFY

He's already been indicted. At this point, I don't care if he is convicted and sent to jail. If he is the R nominee, I will still vote for him. Him being indicted, even convicted, or even jailed, does not prevent him for running for POTUS. Hell, for Joe and Nelson Mandela its a badge of honor.

Gonna have to try a different approach to disqualify him. No one believes that justice of any sort involves indicting Trump for made up crimes whilst ignoring REAL crimes like pedophelia, child abuse, rape, assault not to mention the FARA violations, stolen classified docs, corrupt foreign influence peddling, and such that's all well documented and in the public purview thanks to Hunter's Laptop and Ashley's Diaries.

But Trump did not follow a process he doesn't have to… and… got him?

I'm sorry the DOJ only indicts real crimes, not imaginary ones you read about on Gateway Pundit.

Set an end date for your prophesy that will fail and be more specific what will(not) occur.

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I'm sorry the DOJ only indicts real crimes, not imaginary ones you read about on Gateway Pundit.

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Bookmarking this for when it bites your ass.

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It doesn't matter. He can't take criticism and won't be back until he changes user name AGAIN.

Remember when you made this hilarious claim about "fake" pictures:

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Oh boy the pic of fake docs again. That all you got? Nothing

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https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3330907/replies/63325226

Then Trump's lawyers confirmed in court that documents marked classified were recovered. Good times. On the rare occasion you actually raise the courage to participate on a thread you just derp it up.

They were faked. Still.

Nope. But I'd love to hear what you mean by "faked" I'm sure it's hilarious.

Trump's lawyers never even contended the recovered documents bearing classified markings were fake. In fact they acknowledged they're real.

I didn't know you're a Constitutional Law EXPERT; so much so, you have adjudged Trump's guilt without a degree of uncertainty even though you fail to cite any controlling jurisprudence to support your position (that's because there isn't any). Furthermore, as far as I know, you haven't said anything of substance about Biden, who like Pence, possessed classified documents as VP; neither of these ******s had declassification powers at the time of their possession unlike the office of the POTUS .

From the American Bar Association:

Trump added to the confusion when he said in an interview with Fox personality Sean Hannity, "There doesn't have to be a process, as I understand it. ... If you're the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying it's declassified. Even by thinking about it."
Most national security legal experts dismissed the former president's suggestion that he could declassify documents simply by thinking about it. But as an ABA Legal Fact Check posted Oct. 17 explains, legal guidelines support his contention that presidents have broad authority to formally declassify most documents that are not statutorily protected, while they are in office.

https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2022/10/fact-check-presidential-authority/

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That letter is obviously begging because he knows he's about to be indicted.

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FIFY

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Russian collusion will be proven any day now. That's the ticket.


Do these nazi tactics you're celebrating concern you in the least? Are you completely fine with gold stars being handed out?

I'd be pretty confident also with a system that is so warped now that one side has free reign and the other gets charged on everything. Like I'd pick a high school basketball team playing against a team of YMCA 6th graders. Seems like an easy choice. In my scenario, the high schoolers don't get called for travelling, get to play with 6 spots, and the basket for the YMCA team is 2 inches less in diameter.

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Sorry. You're right. Nothing is happening, you have nothing to worry about.

Forcing a lawyer to testify and produce documents because a judge ruled a crime was likely committed is NBD.

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No, I think the fact that he is "wrapping up" the investigation and not a blip has leaked about Trump going to jail says all I need to know that this is a nothing burger. Also, notice the leaks are now from Trump and his closest circle of besties, none of whom would go on record, and not from "sources familiar with the investigation".

Sorry, your M-A-L raid was a total bust.

BTW - You can also reach this same conclusion by looking at the faux charges and "convictions" in the NYC courts. If they had Trump on actual crimes, they would not have played the other cards.

Keep trying though little Piggy.

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You're right. When your inner circle thinks you're about to be indicted, it means "this is going great. ".

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Your inner circle has been convinced he's going to jail since 2015...

My "inner circle" doesn't care about politics. But if they thought, for good reason, I was about to be indicted it would be meaningful. This is WSJ not DailyKos, Trump's people talk to them.

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My "inner circle" doesn't care about politics. But if they thought, for good reason, I was about to be indicted it would be meaningful. This is WSJ not DailyKos, Trump's people talk to them.

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The WSJ has been has anti-Trump as all the rest of the media.

This world of "anonymous sources" is giving me tired head.

Willful dissemination of classified material. Willful concealment in defiance of a subpoena

I expect this will result in Espionage Act charges. Dissemination is key.

"Prosecutors...have gathered evidence indicating that Trump at times kept classified documents in his office in a place where they were visible and sometimes showed them to others."https://t.co/1pmZkv7TG2

— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) May 25, 2023

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Willful dissemination of classified material. Willful concealment in defiance of a subpoena

I expect this will result in Espionage Act charges. Dissemination is key.

"Prosecutors...have gathered evidence indicating that Trump at times kept classified documents in his office in a place where they were visible and sometimes showed them to others."https://t.co/1pmZkv7TG2

— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) May 25, 2023

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When do the documents in Biden's garage, office and home get scrutinized?

A President can show classified material to whomever he wishes since he is the ultimate declassification authority.

Sorry noisy Sus Domesticus, but you're still wrong like always.

is this better or worse than maintaining an unsecured email server in one of your closets that you use to send/receive classified information on?

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A President can show classified material to whomever he wishes since he is the ultimate declassification authority.

Sorry noisy Sus Domesticus, but you're still wrong like always.

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What about a private citizen golf course greeter without a security clearance?

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A President can show classified material to whomever he wishes since he is the ultimate declassification authority.

Sorry noisy Sus Domesticus, but you're still wrong like always.

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What about a private citizen golf course greeter without a security clearance?

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"whomever he wishes"

Nope. Not after 12:00PM 1/20/2021.

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From the guy that invented "lock her up?" He's a ****ing idiot.

He seems to be confessing he leaned on the DOJ to prosecute his perceived enemies. I'm sure the house "weaponization" committee will take up this matter expeditiously.

When did he get the documents?

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The Times previously reported that Judge Howell, writing in a sealed memorandum, described what she called Mr. Trump's "misdirection" in dealing with the National Archives in 2021 and early last year, saying it was "apparently a dress rehearsal" for how he handled the grand jury subpoena last May, according to a person briefed on the memo's contents.

In the sealed memo laying out her reasoning for ruling that Mr. Corcoran should not be protected by attorney-client privilege, Judge Howell touched on numerous instances of what prosecutors considered to be evidence of possible obstruction and wrongful possession of government material on Mr. Trump's part, the person briefed on its contents said.

"Other evidence demonstrates that the former president willfully sought to retain classified documents when he was not authorized to do so, and knew it," Ms. Howell wrote

"Notably, no excuse is provided as to how the former president could miss the classified-marked documents found in his own bedroom at Mar-a-Lago,"

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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/25/us/politics/mar-a-lago-trump-classified-documents.html

When did Trump abscond with this purported documents? Oh before he left the White House?

Well, his testimony / defense just needs to be "I thunk them declassified before I packed them" and case is closed / dropped.

Sorry, but that's all that had to happen.

Oh he and his team has not raised that defense? Well, there has been no need to at this point.

Funny to watch folks fall for another Trump-focused hoax. And Trump loves being the center of attention. Sad to see some folks give it to him in the face of facts and common sense.

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From the guy that invented "lock her up?" He's a ****ing idiot.

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And then didn't when advised of the "consequences" to democracy by sending the DOJ to prosecute political rivals.

Meanwhile, Obama and Biden told Trump and friends to sit down and hold their IPAs / Bud Lights whilst the showed Trump how you actually weaponize the alphabets against political dissenters.

He may be an idiot for standing down, but he's not the treasonous, traitorous in-American *******(s) you support.