Republicans are doing a better job on Abortion

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Initially the Republicans were coming off as the crazy ones wanting a total ban on abortion and coming off as cruel and unsympathetic.

This past weekend I've heard Kari Lake, Herschel Walker, and Michigan governor candidate say they support exceptions on abortions. They gave a clear answer and it wasn't up for interpretation. It's the democrats having a hard time answering the questions now so now they sound like the crazy ones.

Overall Republican policies are better. They should win most every election but they are sometimes too stupid. Going back, Carter only won because of Watergate. Immediately replaced by Reagan who dominated. Clinton only elected because republicans got stupid again and let Perot split the vote. Obama won because no Republican was winning after 2008 financial crisis and that followed an unprecedented red wave. And in 2020 Biden won because Trump was Trump.

BTW Kari Lake is awesome. Didn't know too much about her but she's a female DeSantis. Tough and smart. She knows how to connect to an audience and clearly communicate the issue and directly answer a question. Initially she was being obtuse but has improved.
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Exceptions are no different than what liberals did. Just a different line. If life truly matters the baby from rape should matter too. But republicans are willing to kill that innocent life.

The only exception should be for the life of the mother at stake.
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A child created by love is more of a child than one created by rape.

Weird take.
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Here's where Kari could do better. 12 minute interview on CNN and after 5 minutes it gets derailed into talk about 2020 election. It plays right into the media's game.

This should be so easy. Did Biden win 2020 election. Yes, that why the country is falling apart and why I'm running. Will you accept 2022 election? Yes I will, but please investigate why Stacy Abrams is an election denier.

Boom it's that easy. Republicans win every major issue and let media trap them on crap that doesnt matters.

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Dan Scott said:

Here's where Kari could do better. 12 minute interview on CNN and after 5 minutes it gets derailed into talk about 2020 election. It plays right into the media's game.

This should be so easy. Did Biden win 2020 election. Yes, that why the country is falling apart and why I'm running. Will you accept 2022 election? Yes I will, but please investigate why Stacy Abrams is an election denier.

Boom it's that easy. Republicans win every major issue and let media trap them on crap that doesnt matters.




So you don't think election integrity is important?
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Exceptions are no different than what liberals did. Just a different line. If life truly matters the baby from rape should matter too. But republicans are willing to kill that innocent life.

The only exception should be for the life of the mother at stake.
There is still a lot of confusion about the exceptions both from state legislatures and from the general public.

Even leaving the life of the mother aside, its still not clear to me whether its legal to have an abortion in some states for an unviable fetus or dead baby inside the womb.
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Polls show people care about economy, crime, immigration. Republicans are strong on those issues. Democrats suck on those issues. When republicans waste time not talking about those three things they wasted time and gained no new voters.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Exceptions are no different than what liberals did. Just a different line. If life truly matters the baby from rape should matter too. But republicans are willing to kill that innocent life.

The only exception should be for the life of the mother at stake.


If my wife or daughter were raped and got pregnant from it I would want them to get an abortion asap and never think twice. I don't care if I have to go to jail, hell, or whatever punishment you see fit. I'd just want that scourge out of her and move on.
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Republicans are just democrats 10 years in the past.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Exceptions are no different than what liberals did. Just a different line. If life truly matters the baby from rape should matter too. But republicans are willing to kill that innocent life.

The only exception should be for the life of the mother at stake.
It's a fairly easy concession since it happens in sooooooooo few instances.

The case in Ohio was so easy to counter with the guy being an illegal alien here due to Dem policies.
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Nobody supports a complete ban on abortion without exceptions for the life of the mother, so that's a straw man.
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Aggie4Life02 said:

Nobody supports a complete ban on abortion without exceptions for the life of the mother, so that's a straw man.


Incorrect.

Not saying it is state policy, but there are some who think the fetus is equal to the mother and the mom should not choose her life over the baby
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Last time I checked, there's no situation where an abortion is needed to save the life of the mother when the fetus is viable. If it is viable they would just do a C-section. If it isn't, both are going to die.

It's not choosing one over the other, it's choosing to save one rather than none.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Republicans are just democrats 10 years in the past.
For now..
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Tanya 93 said:

Aggie4Life02 said:

Nobody supports a complete ban on abortion without exceptions for the life of the mother, so that's a straw man.


Incorrect.

Not saying it is state policy, but there are some who think the fetus is equal to the mother and the mom should not choose her life over the baby



Name one person who holds that position?
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Only ones I could think of would be the "no medical interventions, ever" people that prefer to leave everything to God. So, what, .01% of the population or less?
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DrEvazanPhD said:

Dan Scott said:

Here's where Kari could do better. 12 minute interview on CNN and after 5 minutes it gets derailed into talk about 2020 election. It plays right into the media's game.

This should be so easy. Did Biden win 2020 election. Yes, that why the country is falling apart and why I'm running. Will you accept 2022 election? Yes I will, but please investigate why Stacy Abrams is an election denier.

Boom it's that easy. Republicans win every major issue and let media trap them on crap that doesnt matters.




So you don't think election integrity is important?
It is more important to win now, in 2022, than to settle the truth of 2020. That will NEVER happen as long as you have a Democratic Party holding all three branches government.

It also won't happen unless enough 2.0 candidates like this win and replace `squish' type Republicans.

Winning, by avoiding being trapped by the media always trying to set the topic to pay attention to -- is the priority.
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If republicans would stop pushing for abortion bans and instead let the lefties murder their future voting rolls the issue would cure itself.
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Dan Scott said:

Polls show people care about economy, crime, immigration. Republicans are strong on those issues. Democrats suck on those issues. When republicans waste time not talking about those three things they wasted time and gained no new voters.


Agreed.

I've said it before, that there's no reason Republicans don't win every presidential election. It's always theirs to lose.
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Teslag said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

Exceptions are no different than what liberals did. Just a different line. If life truly matters the baby from rape should matter too. But republicans are willing to kill that innocent life.

The only exception should be for the life of the mother at stake.


If my wife or daughter were raped and got pregnant from it I would want them to get an abortion asap and never think twice. I don't care if I have to go to jail, hell, or whatever punishment you see fit. I'd just want that scourge out of her and move on.


But if every child of rape was aborted, we would have never got the musical stylings of Hatebreed, one of the most famous hardcore bands of the 2000s
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No Spin Ag said:

Dan Scott said:

Polls show people care about economy, crime, immigration. Republicans are strong on those issues. Democrats suck on those issues. When republicans waste time not talking about those three things they wasted time and gained no new voters.


Agreed.

I've said it before, that there's no reason Republicans don't win every presidential election. It's always theirs to lose.
Ah, but by that token 1996 was unwinnable, and proved to be. Never was so indifferent to an outcome. It would have been different by 1997, but not in November 1996.
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Teslag said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

Exceptions are no different than what liberals did. Just a different line. If life truly matters the baby from rape should matter too. But republicans are willing to kill that innocent life.

The only exception should be for the life of the mother at stake.


If my wife or daughter were raped and got pregnant from it I would want them to get an abortion asap and never think twice. I don't care if I have to go to jail, hell, or whatever punishment you see fit. I'd just want that scourge out of her and move on.


An innocent life isn't a scourge. You really really need to re-evaluate things man. God is the author of our lives. Every single one. And we should not be so flippant to end them or demonize the most innocent.
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Sorry nothing you can say would make me change my mind. I'd be disgusted knowing that child is alive on this earth.
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Teslag said:

Sorry nothing you can say would make me change my mind. I'd be disgusted knowing that child is alive on this earth.


Then I feel for you. It doesn't seem you know the Good Lord.
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The arrogance is incredible.
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Tergdor said:

Last time I checked, there's no situation where an abortion is needed to save the life of the mother when the fetus is viable. If it is viable they would just do a C-section. If it isn't, both are going to die.

It's not choosing one over the other, it's choosing to save one rather than none.


Yes, but there are some instances where if the baby is 100% healthy and is killing mom. If it goes too long, mom will die and baby will shortly thereafter. When those situations arise (usually some form of placental detachment, some pre-eclampsia, HELLP syndrome), there are some states where the doctor's can't intervene until the baby is in enough distress or dies first.
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TommyBrady said:

The arrogance is incredible.


I am sorry that was upsetting. But to want to murder an innocent life doesn't portray Jesus.
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Take it to the R&P board
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Teslag said:

Sorry nothing you can say would make me change my mind. I'd be disgusted knowing that child is alive on this earth.


That child is your own flesh and blood. Vengeance isn't justice, nor is it a feature of our judicial system. There's a reason the victim doesn't prescribe the punishment. But hey, ignore the wisdom of history and just pound your chest about how you'd murder your own grandchild because of something completely out of their control. Really seems like you've got the moral stance there.

Maybe if you can't handle the child living, you're the problem.
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I'm just in awe of a human who can follow every word of God. You are truly incredible.
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TommyBrady said:

I'm just in awe of a human who can follow every word of God. You are truly incredible.


By that logic, there's no reason to act morally in any situation. If you can get away with it, do it. Right? I mean, we all fall short, so why ever try to do the right thing?

The unrighteous indignation is worse than the righteous.
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Some things are worth burning in hell for. This one makes my list.
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Teslag said:

Sorry nothing you can say would make me change my mind. I'd be disgusted knowing that child is alive on this earth.
I was adopted nearly from birth. At 18, I learned that I was conceived out of a brutal rape at knife-point by a serial rapist. Like most people, I'd never considered that abortion applied to my life, but once I received this information, all of a sudden I realized that, not only does it apply to my life, but it has to do with my very existence. It was as if I could hear the echoes of all those people who, with the most sympathetic of tones, would say, "Well, except in cases of rape. . . ," or who would rather fervently exclaim in disgust: "Especially in cases of rape!!!"

does her existance make you mad?

https://rebeccakiessling.com/rebeccas-story/
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You don't know the correct way to live. I do. Anybody who doesn't agree doesn't know God.
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