Today is the 1 year anniversary of the end of the Kabul airlift

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Clob94
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Kabul_airlift

August 30 marks the last day.

This clownshow should never be forgotten. Of all the failures in this administration, this one ranks at the top. The media has seemingly forgotten it took place. Over 100,000 Afghan allies and US citizens were left behind. And what is the media focused on? Some "classified" pieces of paper that were so important to national security that it took 18 months to go collect them.

Had the Afghan retreat and collapse of that Afghan army happened under ANY Republican administration, it would have been branded an utter failure, and rightly so.

But it's "D"ifferent under Biden.
jefe95
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May get to see a replay in Baghdad.
Ellis Wyatt
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Thanks for the brave sacrifices by the men and women who lost their lives because of the reckless piece of **** occupying the White House. I mourn for their families, knowing they'll have to live with this forever while the ******** responsible has no idea it isn't his birthday today.
evan_aggie
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You mean the graceful and organized departure?
FarmerJohn
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The Afghanistan withdrawal should go down in history as an example of how not to redeploy forces while in contact with the enemy. How the generals that planned and led this weren't immediately sacked is incomprehensible.
ABATTBQ87
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Biden admin left $7 billion in military equipment in Afghanistan

President Joe Biden's administration left roughly $7 billion in military equipment behind in Afghanistan after the deadly withdrawal in August that left the Taliban in control, a new Pentagon report reviewed by CNN on Wednesday showed.

According to the report, the U.S. gave the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces $18.6 billion in equipment between 2005 and 2021. Approximately $7.12 billion was still in Afghanistan after the withdrawal, including aircraft, air-to-ground munitions, military vehicles, weapons, communications equipment and more.
My Name Is Judge
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Cornpop free military giveaways


What a legend
agz win
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Thanks for the brave sacrifices by the men and women who served there and were able to make it home from an unwinnable situation that we should never have been in in the first place. They should've been brought home sooner.
Funky Winkerbean
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Biden should be in prison.
My Name Is Judge
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agz win said:

Thanks for the brave sacrifices by the men and women who served there and were able to make it home from an unwinnable situation that we should never have been in in the first place. They should've been brought home sooner.


Making excuses for the way cornpop tailtucked & got Americans killed


Legend
Joes
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Completely forgotten about by 99% as I knew it would be. Buried under all the other cluster****s coming at us at all times.
titan
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And the amazing thing the same cretins in charge of the failure are still in charge -- from Biden to Pentagon brass.

And you may have to add another to the list soon given this course:

Baghdad going nuts today | TexAgs
92AG10
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agz win said:

Thanks for the brave sacrifices by the men and women who served there and were able to make it home from an unwinnable situation that we should never have been in in the first place. They should've been brought home sooner.


Save your pity and don't soil their sacrifice. I proudly spent three years in Afghanistan and would have gone back is a heartbeat. We fought and won there over and over again, only so see those hard won gains given up by politicians in DC. Continuously shackling with asinine Rules of Engagement and irresponsible troop levels, they did everything possible to prevent ultimate success. Since 1945, US political leaders have been quick to commit troops but refuse to commit to winning. They refuse to acknowledge that there are people in this world that only understand violence and should receive it without prejudice.

There are good people in Afghanistan that trusted us. Their families deserved better than the abandonment we gave them. It never should have ended that way.

Manhattan
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We never won or the Taliban wouldn't exist, the good people in Afghanistan should have taken over their country, almost every pos Taliban under 21 wasn't even born on 9/11. We had two decades to fix it and squandered the opourtunity.
Through Dark Brandon all things are possible.
FarmerJohn
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Quote:

Since 1945, US political leaders have been quick to commit troops but refuse to commit to winning.
You're not wrong.



92AG10
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Manhattan said:

We never won or the Taliban wouldn't exist, the good people in Afghanistan should have taken over their country, almost every pos Taliban under 21 wasn't even born on 9/11. We had two decades to fix it and squandered the opourtunity.


You think "the Taliban" is who we were fighting for the past 20 years? Your problem is you think you are knowledgeable.
agAngeldad
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Benghazi and Kabul = Disastrous leadership
titan
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92AG10 said:

agz win said:

Thanks for the brave sacrifices by the men and women who served there and were able to make it home from an unwinnable situation that we should never have been in in the first place. They should've been brought home sooner.


Save your pity and don't soil their sacrifice. I proudly spent three years in Afghanistan and would have gone back is a heartbeat. We fought and won there over and over again, only so see those hard won gains given up by politicians in DC. Continuously shackling with asinine Rules of Engagement and irresponsible troop levels, they did everything possible to prevent ultimate success. Since 1945, US political leaders have been quick to commit troops but refuse to commit to winning. They refuse to acknowledge that there are people in this world that only understand violence and should receive it without prejudice.

There are good people in Afghanistan that trusted us. Their families deserved better than the abandonment we gave them. It never should have ended that way.


True. They need the Roman expectation for major failure. They might be a bit more motivated if they realized abject failure didn't mean them going on their merry way writing memoirs and making money. Instead it carries an expectation to depart the stage and share the legionaries efforts.
Funky Winkerbean
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Joes said:

Completely forgotten about by 99% as I knew it would be. Buried under all the other cluster****s coming at us at all times.
It seems everything this administration has done has been "forgotten ".

Yet they can recall everything that our last president did. Amazing isn't it?
nortex97
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Were left behind? LOL, the problem/worry I have is about the 100K that we did fly out.
Ellis Wyatt
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agz win said:

Thanks for the brave sacrifices by the men and women who served there and were able to make it home from an unwinnable situation that we should never have been in in the first place. They should've been brought home sooner.
Didn't have to make sure some of them were needlessly killed and billions of dollars of American equipment was left for the Taliban. That was all on Brandon and the Obamites.
Manhattan
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92AG10 said:

Manhattan said:

We never won or the Taliban wouldn't exist, the good people in Afghanistan should have taken over their country, almost every pos Taliban under 21 wasn't even born on 9/11. We had two decades to fix it and squandered the opourtunity.


You think "the Taliban" is who we were fighting for the past 20 years? Your problem is you think you are knowledgeable.


Your problem is you think Afghanistan was a winnable situation.
Through Dark Brandon all things are possible.
titan
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Winnable has nothing to do with whether you execute a sensible and orderly withdrawal. Biden and Milley had no excuse for such chaos. There was no date--they set it. You can't set a date for a super-power or even a major power. We chose to be run out of there.

We didn't have to abandon Bagram wholsale either. There were a score of options.

It wasn't even as orderly - -and with far less excuse -- than the defeat at Dunkirk withdrawal.

No excuse none. For the real-time events in August 2021. Nothing decided before then in any way made that inevitable or necessary.
IslanderAg04
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Manhattan said:

92AG10 said:

Manhattan said:

We never won or the Taliban wouldn't exist, the good people in Afghanistan should have taken over their country, almost every pos Taliban under 21 wasn't even born on 9/11. We had two decades to fix it and squandered the opourtunity.


You think "the Taliban" is who we were fighting for the past 20 years? Your problem is you think you are knowledgeable.


Your problem is you think Afghanistan was a winnable situation.


Definitely not winnable now, bc of **** leadership.
zoneag
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Manhattan said:

92AG10 said:

Manhattan said:

We never won or the Taliban wouldn't exist, the good people in Afghanistan should have taken over their country, almost every pos Taliban under 21 wasn't even born on 9/11. We had two decades to fix it and squandered the opourtunity.


You think "the Taliban" is who we were fighting for the past 20 years? Your problem is you think you are knowledgeable.


Your problem is you think Afghanistan was a winnable situation.


Winnable or not is irrelevant to the incompetent withdrawal that killed 13 of our finest. The leftist regime you support obviously felt the withdrawal was a success given the lack of consequences for leadership. Understandable why you want to deflect.
Layne Staley
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Sadly when one of the famiiles talked with Joe Biden, all the occupier in chief did was interrupt her a sentence and a half into the conversation and filibuster about how much he missed his veteran son, Beau. P.O.S.iC
Manhattan
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IslanderAg04 said:

Manhattan said:

92AG10 said:

Manhattan said:

We never won or the Taliban wouldn't exist, the good people in Afghanistan should have taken over their country, almost every pos Taliban under 21 wasn't even born on 9/11. We had two decades to fix it and squandered the opourtunity.


You think "the Taliban" is who we were fighting for the past 20 years? Your problem is you think you are knowledgeable.


Your problem is you think Afghanistan was a winnable situation.


Definitely not winnable now, bc of **** leadership.


I know, why the **** did we have Pakistan let top Taliban generals out of prison?
Eliminatus
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The Fall of Afghanistan was the single most frustrating geopolitical failure I have witnessed yet in my life. It ALL boiled down to the top leadership, both political and military.

Afghanistan was a zero sum game. Agreed. But HOW it all ended was something that I have studied far more than most and again, poor top leadership decisions led to almost worst case scenario possible. And the extent of our failure was completely avoidable and SHOULD have been avoided with common sense and actual strategic decision making at least being addressed along with the inane political restrictions Biden arbitrarily placed upon us.

Disaster. Abject disaster and no one even remembers it today. Sickening.
92AG10
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Manhattan said:

92AG10 said:

Manhattan said:

We never won or the Taliban wouldn't exist, the good people in Afghanistan should have taken over their country, almost every pos Taliban under 21 wasn't even born on 9/11. We had two decades to fix it and squandered the opourtunity.


You think "the Taliban" is who we were fighting for the past 20 years? Your problem is you think you are knowledgeable.


Your problem is you think Afghanistan was a winnable situation.
Hard to argue against such sound logic.

Two months on Texags and you have racked up more than a 1000 dubious posts on the politics board. It's almost like you're here trolling.....




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ABATTBQ87 said:

Biden admin left $7 billion in military equipment in Afghanistan

President Joe Biden's administration left roughly $7 billion in military equipment behind in Afghanistan after the deadly withdrawal in August that left the Taliban in control, a new Pentagon report reviewed by CNN on Wednesday showed.

According to the report, the U.S. gave the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces $18.6 billion in equipment between 2005 and 2021. Approximately $7.12 billion was still in Afghanistan after the withdrawal, including aircraft, air-to-ground munitions, military vehicles, weapons, communications equipment and more.
Ubiquitous "Feature, not a bug"
annie88
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“My philopsophy is this: Its none of my business what people say of me or think of me. I am what I am and I do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. And it makes life so much easier." ~ Sir Anthony Hopkins
Red1
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I don't blame the administration. It was DOD's mission to plan and execute the withdrawal.
aggieforester05
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Red1 said:

I don't blame the administration. It was DOD's mission to plan and execute the withdrawal.


Want to guess who commands the DOD?
92AG10
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Red1 said:

I don't blame the administration. It was DOD's mission to plan and execute the withdrawal.
That's naive at best. DOD received their mission requirements and planning timelines from the President, through the SECDEF. "You will have all U.S. forces out of Afghanistan by August 31,2022" is an order.
zoneag
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Red1 said:

I don't blame the administration. It was DOD's mission to plan and execute the withdrawal.


Of course you don't, you are a rabid partisan. Obviously the administration was pleased with DoD execution of the plan since there was no accountability for the utter catastrophe that it turned out to be. Acceptable casualties for them I suppose, all in the name of political expediency.
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