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1/ Today Trump's legal team filed a very unusual motion regarding the search at his residence.

It is hard for me to explain just how unusual and bizarre this motion is, but I will try to do so in this thread.

Here is a link to the full motion:https://t.co/qmDUOcOwCT

— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) August 22, 2022

This is a really weird filing. It will probably be rejected. It also appears to be a publicity stunt and the lawyers will likely be sanctioned.

Unless this is some bizzarro criminal rule (Aggiehawg bat signal), you don't start a new case with a "motion" and he's what, filing it "In Re" the Mar-a-Lago search, so he served it on nobody? They are seeking an ex parte order against the government? Really, really weird. How does it give the Court jurisdiction?

Great post GA!


If these documents are SSSSOOOOOOO classified, why would they go to the National Archives?

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3309579

The government wants the monopoly on ex parte screw jobs

Yes, it is out of the ordinary. Appears to me that the working theory here is that DOJ was less than honest with the Magistrate about the amount of cooperation Trump and his lawyers were extending to DOJ and NARA. Access to facilities and even his employees at MaL.

But the request for the appointment for a Special Master under the circumstances is legit.

Nothing weird about this at all. Preserve all these issues for appeal right off the bat. Seems like a well reasoned strategy, imo.

Jurisdiction?

Why the choice of venue? SD of Fla?

Did they serve the suit on anyone? What court is going to issue an ex parte order on the DOJ? This should be styled a Motion for a Emergency Preliminary Injunction if it is ex parte. They also have to brief the court on how they meet the standard.

trump grift 101

1. file a PR stunt motion with no chance of succeeding
2. make a scene about it to make the rubes think you're "fighting"
3. solicit donations to help the "legal battle"
4. when it inevitably fails, claim it's all rigged or just hope everyone forgets
5. profit

works every time

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Nothing weird about this at all. Preserve all these issues for appeal right off the bat. Seems like a well reasoned strategy, imo.

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Sarcasm, right?

I file motions for protective orders as original proceedings all the time under TRCP 176.6(e). I don't practice much in federal court, but there could be some similar rule.

aggiehawg said:

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Yes, it is out of the ordinary. Appears to me that the working theory here is that DOJ was less than honest with the Magistrate about the amount of cooperation Trump and his lawyers were extending to DOJ and NARA. Access to facilities and even his employees at MaL.

But the request for the appointment for a Special Master under the circumstances is legit.

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The request could be moot by this point if the FBI has completed their review. This is why I'm stumped as to why they waited two weeks to file this. Seems like something that should have been filed the next day.

Be right back. I'm going to go file a Motion to have Georgiag anointed as grand czar of F16 in the ND of California, citing no pertinent law whatsoever.

Don't think you can get into the weeds procedurally on this. Sometimes you got to play the hand you dealt. And this is one of those times.

In what fed district does mar a lago sit?

Procedure is everything in Federal courts. For example, I'm not even sure this is front of the correct judge. The clerk even noted that Reinhart is able to address this if the parties agree.

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In what fed district does mar a lago sit?

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Southern District of Florida.

Proc92 said:

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In what fed district does mar a lago sit?

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Southern District of Florida.

HTownAg98 said:

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Procedure is everything in Federal courts. For example, I'm not even sure this is front of the correct judge. The clerk even noted that Reinhart is able to address this if the parties agree.

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F*** the clerk. Dude gettin' DP'ed now for 2-weeks. Play the hand you got. Get whatever you can on file, however you want do it.

The judge, magistrate, should have never, ever approved this raid. This particular judge was shopped by the JD knowing he hated Trump. Now , with that how can we ever trust the judicial system?

And don't wait two weeks to do it?

aggiehawg said:

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Proc92 said:

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In what fed district does mar a lago sit?

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Southern District of Florida.

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Are any of these motions designed to stop the DOJs investigation permanently?

you know what's more weird than the filing?

an unprecedented marxist attempt to imprison the regime's very popular political opponent for a future election.

This is a donkey show out the gate. Get what you can on file. The circuit court is gonna have to sort this out one day and you want to build in every single off ramp you possibly can, right off the bat. Somebody is out there thinking this through. And probably making a ton of money doing it. Godspeed to these mfers.

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aggiehawg said:

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Proc92 said:

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In what fed district does mar a lago sit?

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Southern District of Florida.

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Are any of these motions designed to stop the DOJs investigation permanently?

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No.

There really isn't a way to stop a grand jury.

aggiehawg said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Proc92 said:

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In what fed district does mar a lago sit?

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Southern District of Florida.

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Are any of these motions designed to stop the DOJs investigation permanently?

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No.

There really isn't a way to stop a grand jury.

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Thanks. Okay, So then what do you think the goal of his attorneys are with these filings if they're not going to stop what the DOJ is doing?

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Procedure is everything in Federal courts. For example, I'm not even sure this is front of the correct judge. The clerk even noted that Reinhart is able to address this if the parties agree.

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F*** the clerk. Dude gettin' DP'ed now for 2-weeks. Play the hand you got. Get whatever you can on file, however you want do it.

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You can't "get [your arguments] on file" if you're not filing said arguments correctly. This is real life, and real federal court procedure, not a TV show.

Swingin' ***** working this case got child support to pay, a new high maint baby momma, a lake house and and probably another instathot on the side. All that ain't gonna get paid for by not billing hours and not filing **** with the court.

Old McDonald said:

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trump grift 101

1. file a PR stunt motion with no chance of succeeding
2. make a scene about it to make the rubes think you're "fighting"
3. solicit donations to help the "legal battle"
4. when it inevitably fails, claim it's all rigged or just hope everyone forgets
5. profit

works every time

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Funny, that's exactly what your party has been doing for the past 6 years trying to "get" Trump.

This time they really got him! This time a conviction is imminent! This time they mean it!

No Spin Ag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Proc92 said:

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In what fed district does mar a lago sit?

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Southern District of Florida.

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Are any of these motions designed to stop the DOJs investigation permanently?

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No.

There really isn't a way to stop a grand jury.

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Thanks. Okay, So then what do you think the goal of his attorneys are with these filings if they're not going to stop what the DOJ is doing?

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Old McDonald already posted it:

trump grift 101

1. file a PR stunt motion with no chance of succeeding
2. make a scene about it to make the rubes think you're "fighting"
3. solicit donations to help the "legal battle"
4. when it inevitably fails, claim it's all rigged or just hope everyone forgets
5. profit

works every time

But it is on file.

Thats the deal here.

It is on file. It'll get sorted out in the wash.

File all the procedural objections you want and they will sit unruled on forever. You know that.

Old McDonald said:

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trump grift 101

1. file a PR stunt motion with no chance of succeeding
2. make a scene about it to make the rubes think you're "fighting"
3. solicit donations to help the "legal battle"
4. when it inevitably fails, claim it's all rigged or just hope everyone forgets
5. profit

works every time

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This sounds like the Impeachment Managers' strategy.

What?

GeorgiAg said:

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PDF
https://t.co/qmDUOcOwCT

1/ Today Trump's legal team filed a very unusual motion regarding the search at his residence.

It is hard for me to explain just how unusual and bizarre this motion is, but I will try to do so in this thread.

Here is a link to the full motion:https://t.co/qmDUOcOwCT

— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) August 22, 2022

This is a really weird filing. It will probably be rejected. It also appears to be a publicity stunt and the lawyers will likely be sanctioned.

Unless this is some bizzarro criminal rule (Aggiehawg bat signal), you don't start a new case with a "motion" and he's what, filing it "In Re" the Mar-a-Lago search, so he served it on nobody? They are seeking an ex parte order against the government? Really, really weird. How does it give the Court jurisdiction?

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There is nothing conventional about any of this. Beyond the fact that the raid and investigation are completely unprecedented the fact they did this raid with an incredibly broad scope was odd. Raids like that are supposed to come at the end of an investigation when they have the goods. This was a "here is the target, let's find a crime" raid which is wrong on every level.

Of course the real problem is that we are in Banana Republic territory all around. The law doesn't matter. You have the DOJ acting as a wing of the WH doing everything they can to find a crime for political purposes. They are picking judges that are allies and they will do everything in 90% Dem DC for all court proceedings.

It's all a show.

Maybe piss off the Magistrate that DOJ lied to him? Get the issue before him?

I'm not really sure other than the Special Master and wanting a more specific property receipts for what was seized. But as other posters have pointed out, that should have been done sooner.

DOJ has to know any indictment brought on the basis of the seized materials will be attacked for being an invalid search and fruit of the poisonous tree.

Who is Trump's Counsel in this deal. It's not Rudy, right?