Bottom line is ... if you ain't doing what Trump is doing here, you losing.

By doing all this you losing less faster than you were before.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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But it is on file.

Thats the deal here.

It is on file. It'll get sorted out in the wash.

File all the procedural objections you want and they will sit unruled on forever. You know that.

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There is definitely such as thing as "preserving the argument for appeal" by making objections, filing motions, etc. But in order for an argument to be "on file" it has to be made correctly, which means it has to be made within the rules of procedure under which the court operates. Otherwise the objection/motion preserves nothing.

Old McDonald said:

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trump grift 101

1. file a PR stunt motion with no chance of succeeding
2. make a scene about it to make the rubes think you're "fighting"
3. solicit donations to help the "legal battle"
4. when it inevitably fails, claim it's all rigged or just hope everyone forgets
5. profit

works every time

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Of course it's a grift. And of course his lemmings will fall for it again.

Trump's attorneys could start losing less fast by getting their pro hac vice motions filed correctly. They forgot to attach a certification that they had read and understand the local rules, which is funny in and of itself. That's not the best way to get off to a good start.

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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But it is on file.

Thats the deal here.

It is on file. It'll get sorted out in the wash.

File all the procedural objections you want and they will sit unruled on forever. You know that.

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There is definitely such as thing as "preserving the argument for appeal" by making objections, filing motions, etc. But in order for an argument to be "on file" it has to be made correctly, which means it has to be made within the rules of procedure under which the court operates. Otherwise the objection/motion preserves nothing.

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Meh, I don't know about that.

I'd guess all this gets consolidated with the main case, whenever and wherever that is.

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Maybe piss off the Magistrate that DOJ lied to him? Get the issue before him?

I'm not really sure other than the Special Master and wanting a more specific property receipts for what was seized. But as other posters have pointed out, that should have been done sooner.

DOJ has to know any indictment brought on the basis of the seized materials will be attacked for being an invalid search and fruit of the poisonous tree.

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Thanks, and as always, I appreciate your insight.

Now to wait and see what happens when all is said and done.

Assuming the accuracy of Trump's claims with respect to cooperation...how is this response considered the WEIRD part of this charade?

Old McDonald said:

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trump grift 101

1. file a PR stunt motion with no chance of succeeding
2. make a scene about it to make the rubes think you're "fighting"
3. solicit donations to help the "legal battle"
4. when it inevitably fails, claim it's all rigged or just hope everyone forgets
5. profit

works every time

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That strategy is infinitely less damaging to the country than selling state secrets, the names of intellugence assets, and taxpayer dollars to foreign governments/corporations which is what pretty much all the other politicians are grifting in.

Why do you insist on condemning the guy that takes a nickel out of willing pockets but turn a blind eye to the guy who robs people of thousands of dollars at gunpoint?

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That strategy is infinitely less damaging to the country than selling state secrets, the names of intellugence assets, and taxpayer dollars to foreign governments/corporations which is what pretty much all the other politicians are grifting in.

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fools are free to part from their money. they're still fools.

HTownAg98 said:

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Trump's attorneys could start losing less fast by getting their pro hac vice motions filed correctly. They forgot to attach a certification that they had read and understand the local rules, which is funny in and of itself. That's not the best way to get off to a good start.

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Meh, so what. It's a defect. It's pointing out somebody's shoe is untied while the building on fire.

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Ags4DaWin said:

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That strategy is infinitely less damaging to the country than selling state secrets, the names of intellugence assets, and taxpayer dollars to foreign governments/corporations which is what pretty much all the other politicians are grifting in.

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fools are free to part from their money. they're still fools.

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So why do you insist on condemning the guy that takes a nickel out of willing pockets but turn a blind eye to the guys who rob people of thousands of dollars at gunpoint?

I know we have some lawyers here... what's this really mean?

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you know what's more weird than the filing?

an unprecedented marxist attempt to imprison the regime's very popular political opponent for a future election.

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To clarify.. unprecedented in this country

Gigem314 said:

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Funny, that's exactly what your party has been doing for the past 6 years trying to "get" Trump.

This time they really got him! This time a conviction is imminent! This time they mean it!

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of course nothing will happen. this is all theater, and the stringpullers are wiping away the tears from their laughter with the money the dummies give them.

Nobody knows, but you seeing it being fleshed out in real time on here.

And the funny thing is, there's better points being made on here by people riffing than you ever see from any legal analyst in msm, blue checks or anywhere else you'll get for free.

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I know we have some lawyers here... what's this really mean?

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It really means nothing

Trump is asking for a special master to review the documents That won't have any real affect on potential charges that Feds could bring And it's being filed every late as Feds have likely already looked at it all

Dersh:

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On Monday night author and legal expert Alan Dershowitz condemned the Attorney General for

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Alan Dershowitz: These are very, very serious matters. The full issue of whether or not there was full disclosure to the magistrate hopefully will come out when we see the affidavit. There should be a special master appointed. This has happened in the past, a special master can go through all the papers and decide what's privileged. One thing that clearly is wrong is the Biden White House should not be able to waive the executive privilege of President Trump. That would make the executive privilege annulled. It would mean that no president could ever speak with confidence without knowing two years from now or three years from now all of it will be revealed by the current president. That's just not the way executive privilege was supposed to operate. So there are lots and lots of questions, I hope they'll be answered by the affidavit.

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This is a donkey show out the gate. Get what you can on file. The circuit court is gonna have to sort this out one day and you want to build in every single off ramp you possibly can, right off the bat. Somebody is out there thinking this through. And probably making a ton of money doing it. Godspeed to these mfers.

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Every attorney working on this case will have 10 years of the government investigating everything they've ever done.

Hope they make 10 million each. They are gonna need it.

But .. you giving the government something to think about. They rolling downhill unchecked and you tossing some gravel out on the track.

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HTownAg98 said:

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Trump's attorneys could start losing less fast by getting their pro hac vice motions filed correctly. They forgot to attach a certification that they had read and understand the local rules, which is funny in and of itself. That's not the best way to get off to a good start.

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Meh, so what. It's a defect. It's pointing out somebody's shoe is untied while the building on fire.

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I mean... not really. It's a defect that is easily fixable, sure. But it's also an indication that the lawyer asking for a "one time only" pass to practice in front of this court 1) didn't bother to carefully read the local rules of the court and/or 2) is sloppy. When the very motion you are using to say "I'm not admitted to practice law in your court but if you let me do so this one time, I promise I'll do everything just like a local lawyer would" indicates that you haven't read the local rules or you're just sloppy with your filings, it doesn't make a good first impression.

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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This is a donkey show out the gate. Get what you can on file. The circuit court is gonna have to sort this out one day and you want to build in every single off ramp you possibly can, right off the bat. Somebody is out there thinking this through. And probably making a ton of money doing it. Godspeed to these mfers.

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Every attorney working on this case will have 10 years of the government investigating everything they've ever done.

Hope they make 10 million each. They are gonna need it.

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Weaponizing the executive and judicial branch against political opponents ... then impeding the defendants opportunity to get legal counsel.

Sounds like the beginning of the end. And I think people are finally starting to see that.

Gravel is a great description Feds are run away train and this was some pebbles on the tracks

Hungry Ojos said:

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Who is Trump's Counsel in this deal. It's not Rudy, right?

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Alina Habba and Christina Bobb former Marine Corps jag officer

Yeah I get it. It's sloppy and a bad look. But I' would't try and make hay over it.

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Hungry Ojos said:

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Who is Trump's Counsel in this deal. It's not Rudy, right?

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Christine Habba and Christina Bobb former Marine Corps jag officer

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No. Lindsey Halligan, James Trusty, and Evan Corcoran filed this motion with the court. They may be his attorneys in other capacities, but they didn't sign their name to this motion.

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This is a really weird filing. It will probably be rejected. It also appears to be a publicity stunt and the lawyers will likely be sanctioned.

Unless this is some bizzarro criminal rule (Aggiehawg bat signal), you don't start a new case with a "motion" and he's what, filing it "In Re" the Mar-a-Lago search, so he served it on nobody? They are seeking an ex parte order against the government? Really, really weird. How does it give the Court jurisdiction?

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Is it that weird? Looks like it's been filed in 100% of the time after FBI agents raided a president's home.

You got to attack the warrant anyway you can, in whatever way you can.

The warrant is defective you chop the legs out the whole deal.

It's all you really can do right now. You losing the pr war. Technocracy is gaping your ass. What other move you got if you Trump?

It does seem like the MSM has been directed to distract the sheeple from the unprecedented attacks by bureaucrats at Biden's DOJ to imprison the regime's political opponent by focusing them onto a narrative that the regime's political opponent has lousy attorneys. OP took the bait.

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Science Denier said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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This is a donkey show out the gate. Get what you can on file. The circuit court is gonna have to sort this out one day and you want to build in every single off ramp you possibly can, right off the bat. Somebody is out there thinking this through. And probably making a ton of money doing it. Godspeed to these mfers.

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Every attorney working on this case will have 10 years of the government investigating everything they've ever done.

Hope they make 10 million each. They are gonna need it.

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Weaponizing the executive and judicial branch against political opponents ... then impeding the defendants opportunity to get legal counsel.

Sounds like the beginning of the end. And I think people are finally starting to see that.

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This is just nonsense. Trump had an attorney at Mar a Lago on site, and has three attorneys working on the case, one that is admitted to the Southern District of Florida but has never logged into the CM/ECF system. By all accounts, Trusty is a very competent attorney, which brings me back to why they waited two weeks to file something that could very well be moot by now. Possibly they weren't engaged until late last week?

OP is funny that way

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You got to attack the warrant anyway you can, in whatever way you can.

The warrant is defective you chop the legs out the whole deal.

It's all you really can do right now. You losing the pr war. Technocracy is gaping your ass. What other move you got if you Trump?

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File a motion that was drafted more competently than the one at hand. That's a start.

This motion reads like it was drafted for a court of public opinion as opposed to a court of law. That's certainly a strategy, if your goal is to just rile up the base and grift some money out of people. But this should have been done much earlier without all of the mewing in the motion.

You right, thats what we are seeing.

They've run out of stuff to say about Trump that ain't already been said. Now they attacking the man's legal counsel.

It's trying to discourage anyone with a license from having anything to do with Trump.

You start ******* with people's right to get legal counsel, turn out the lights the party's over. /donmeredith

Some ivy league ****birds on aderall stayed up 48-hours hammering that turd out.

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It does seem like the MSM has been directed to distract the sheeple from the unprecedented attacks by bureaucrats at Biden's DOJ to imprison the regime's political opponent by focusing them onto a narrative that the regime's political opponent has lousy attorneys. OP took the bait.

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I'm a lawyer. Of course I'm going to focus on procedure.

I didn't get this from MSM. I saw it in a twitter post, then went directly to the PDF of the filing to read it. As the other lawyers on here have said, the timing is dumb. The DOJ has probably scanned through all the documents, and if you aren't going to file it immediately, just wait until charges are filed, if any, to attack the documents admissibility.

I think the only reasonable excuse is it's a PR stunt to stir up the base. If the document gets thrown out or the lawyers sanction, it's just more fuel to the fire.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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You got to attack the warrant anyway you can, in whatever way you can.

The warrant is defective you chop the legs out the whole deal.

It's all you really can do right now. You losing the pr war. Technocracy is gaping your ass. What other move you got if you Trump?

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Haven't read the motion have you? It only mentioned in passing that the Warrant is defective. Doesn't actually make the argument. It defective or attack it The lawyers that signed it know that's a frivolous argument here

That may come later on a motion to suppress evidence. This motion really is nothing. I guess they felt bad because they weren't filing anything

Truth is, it's a public relations move by Team Trump. One cannot deny that he is excellent in that area.