Fine. Let the Dems set themselves on fire.

Terrible take. Federal agencies over reaching their power is not a law. States fighting overreach of power are not the ones using children - that is the federal agencies now threatening to cut food service for unrelated reasons.

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Don't rely on federal funding. Problem solved.

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I agree w the sentiment. But if you forego funds then it's tantamount to subsidizing those that do. Why should you have to do that against your will ? Tyrannical

One of the greatest myths of the last several decades is that all discrimination is bad.

American Hardwood said:

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Don't rely on federal funding. Problem solved.

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The problem is that the states' residents paid hundreds of billions into these funds.

I would say, hey, give us all the money our state collectively paid into this back and you can make up all the rules you want. We'll take it from there.

Obviously, they won't do that.

How about:

• Raise your own money instead of federal nipple cash.
• Have parents send their kids to school with their OWN LUNCH.

TxTarpon said:

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How about:

• Raise your own money instead of federal nipple cash.
• Have parents send their kids to school with their OWN LUNCH.

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So, it's OK for our tax money to be used to provide free school lunches in states where they follow the progressive party line, but kids in states that do buy into that crap should just go hungry. That's a stupid argument.

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TxTarpon said:

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How about:

• Raise your own money instead of federal nipple cash.
• Have parents send their kids to school with their OWN LUNCH.

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So, it's OK for our tax money to be used to provide free school lunches in states where they follow the progressive party line, but kids in states that do buy into that crap should just go hungry. That's a stupid argument.

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Or … have what would have funded the school lunch programs in those states funneled back through some other program the USDA administers. Win win. This is not an unsolvable problem.

Chavista playbook:

"No social control mechanism is more effective than controlling water and food. If you control this, you control the population," Arciniegas, who thinks the strategy has been effective so far, told Dilogo. "There are fewer protests, or at least they haven't increased in certain areas, such as near Miraflores [the presidential palace], and they are less violent. Those who receive the CLAP benefits continue to be [members] of the opposition, but they refrain from taking a position that might endanger this supply."

https://dialogo-americas.com/articles/social-control-maduros-clap/#.YuPleBZOkWM

TxTarpon said:

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How about:

• Raise your own money instead of federal nipple cash.
• Have parents send their kids to school with their OWN LUNCH.

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How else can we feed the children of the 10% of Mexico's population that lives here undocumented?
If you visit Mexico as a non-resident and lose your immigration entry form, it's a $100 fee.

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So, it's OK for our tax money to be used to provide free school lunches in states where they follow the progressive party line, but kids in states that do buy into that crap should just go hungry. That's a stupid argument.

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You made it and could not figure out where to put a question mark.

Why do taxpayers need to subsidize your kid in the school cafeteria?
Feed your own kid.
Pony up your own $$$$.
If you can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em!

Stupid libs!

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How else can we feed the children of the 10% of Mexico's population that lives here undocumented?

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Let's not feed them.

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If you visit Mexico as a non-resident and lose your immigration entry form, it's a $100 fee.

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If you visit Mexico and shop at a place like Soriana you will find school children sacking your groceries for tips.
In the US, because we are somehow "not socialist", we have to have govt sanctioned minimum wage earning, drug tested, I9 correct and background checked American who moves like Slope Poke Rodriguez.

How exactly can any normal human being rationalize this?

Congress bro.
They don't do logical stuff.

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I hate America. Feels really weird to say as I have been raised a patriot since I could walk. But I f-ing HATE this country.

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Negative. You hate this government. America is an idea, a dream of freedom from government oppression. That hasn't changed. The federal government is out of control. That's what you hate.

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No, America is a global economic cartel pushing some deranged anti-white moral code. Before that it was an empire with neoliberal tendencies. And prior to that it was a country, and a pretty damn good one at that.

It's fine to despise what it's become. Those ideals and principles were birthed with the country and didn't get carried into the empire

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LOYAL AG said:

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Wycliffe_03 said:

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I hate America. Feels really weird to say as I have been raised a patriot since I could walk. But I f-ing HATE this country.

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Negative. You hate this government. America is an idea, a dream of freedom from government oppression. That hasn't changed. The federal government is out of control. That's what you hate.

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No, America is a global economic cartel pushing some deranged anti-white moral code. Before that it was an empire with neoliberal tendencies. And prior to that it was a country, and a pretty damn good one at that.

It's fine to despise what it's become. Those ideals and principles were birthed with the country and didn't get carried into the empire

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This "empire" created the greatest period of peace and prosperity in the history of mankind. You'll have to forgive me if I don't think most of the past 80 years are bad. The past decade of hard leftist tyranny has taken us in an extreme direction and I certainly get your sentiment on that. The sudden change and their apparent end game is alarming. But it remains to be seen if the American voter still has the ability to course correct. If that proves incorrect this year or in 2024 then we'll be having a different conversation.

I was under the (correct) assumption that poor people got government assistance, in the form of food stamps among other programs. So why are schools feeding kids 7 days a week, all year long? Aren't the parents/guardians supposed to be using the help to buy groceries?
I'm confused - and have been about this subject for a long time.

They do, but a lot of them are poor because they make **** decisions in life. Some of those **** decisions could be things like spending all of their WIC funds on themselves and leaving their kids left with nothing. Those kids, especially the littles, have zero means to fend for themselves. Getting breakfast and lunch at school is often some of the only food they get.

As an example, my wife taught first grade in a low SES district. In addition to school meals, they had a "backpack" program where kids could come and discreetly get food put in their backpack to take home. One of her kids had behavior issues when he was hungry, but was fine when he was full. In spite of getting backpack food, he was still hungry. She pulled him aside and asked what was going on and he said he didn't have a can opener at home to open the canned food he was provided, so he and his younger brother (keep in mind this kid was 6) split the granola bars and non-canned stuff for dinners, but they'd get hungry towards the end of the week because they ran out of things they could open. He said he had to take care of his brother because his mom was never home. At 6, he got his pre-k brother up, dressed, and on the bus so they could go to school. Heartbreaking, as I'm sitting here typing this on the couch with my own 6yo sitting beside me. Anyway, we started taking extra food and dropping it on their porch from time to time, including a can opener or two.

Good.

Let them tell the starving why they are being starved.

It is the only way to change this.

Yeah but still, the government shouldn't be involved in charity. They'll screw it up and waste more than help at the end of the day. How much lobbying money from food companies and ag outfits flow into DC to keep the feeding programs flowing? Big money, big government, big corruption.

But how else do those kids get fed? It makes sense at schools because (a) there's transportation to and from provided, (b) all of the kids are in the same place, and (c) the schools have tabs on the kids in the district. It's unrealistic to expect a church or other charitable group to be able to coordinate, distribute, and cover the mass footprints that many rural districts encompass. Many kids are too young to get to the places where they could get food and rural low SES towns/counties don't have the residents (manpower) to duplicate what the schools are already doing.

I get wanting government out of as much as possible, but kids are one population group for which we have to advocate.

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But how else do those kids get fed? It makes sense at schools because (a) there's transportation to and from provided, (b) all of the kids are in the same place, and (c) the schools have tabs on the kids in the district. It's unrealistic to expect a church or other charitable group to be able to coordinate, distribute, and cover the mass footprints that many rural districts encompass. Many kids are too young to get to the places where they could get food and rural low SES towns/counties don't have the residents (manpower) to duplicate what the schools are already doing.

I get wanting government out of as much as possible, but kids are one population group for which we have to advocate.

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Nope. "For the children" has been used to justify government intervention far too often.

You solve the problem at the local level, like anything else. And without the massive corrupt DC bureaucracy.

Again, how? How will a place like Grimes County handle it "at the local level?" Are the 7,500ish people in Navasota supposed to cover Bedias, Richards. etc., when many of them need assistance, themselves? It's easy to stomp your feet and hold your breath and at "NO," but at the end of the day, it has to be done. Whether it's the state or national government, it's all the same. They're all rife with corruption, kickbacks, and quid pro quo, but where does the line get drawn?

It's one thing to say "solve it locally" in Brazos County or Montgomery County, but what about Brewster County or Pecos County or hell, even somewhere like Angelina or Rusk County? Without government intervention, there would be a lot of kids that literally starve to death. I watched my own son do it because of the type of cancer he had. It was horrible and not something I'd wish on my worst enemy. When his body finally shut down and stopped working after almost a week with no food or water (3 days my ass), he was just a shell of his former self - like something you'd see in Dachau or Ethiopia. To do that to an able child is absolutely sick and it's almost better that they be aborted than born into an environment that would willingly allow them to suffer a miserable and painful existence until death finally ended their suffering.

Sorry. I don't see the government as the solution to all things poverty related. We've spent over a trillion in the war on poverty and it's still with us. The government only makes things worse. We'll just have to agree to disagree and you'll go on being wrong, but that's okay.

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Sorry. I don't see the government as the solution to all things poverty related. We've spent over a trillion in the war on poverty and it's still with us. The government only makes things worse. We'll just have to agree to disagree and you'll go on being wrong, but that's okay.

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Local churches

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techno-ag said:

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Sorry. I don't see the government as the solution to all things poverty related. We've spent over a trillion in the war on poverty and it's still with us. The government only makes things worse. We'll just have to agree to disagree and you'll go on being wrong, but that's okay.

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Churches do a much better job. I knew one of the pastors at a church in Bryan back when it was downtown. The bus stop for BCS was nearby and a lot of transients flowed through his office looking for handouts. They rarely if ever gave cash. Helped out in other ways. Got people to shelters, got them food and took care of them. All of that amazingly with no government assistance.

LBJ did us a huge disservice, training the simple minded to think government was the solution to all problems.

A hungry kid is a hungry kid. This Lib PC garbage is outrageous and evil. The Secy of Ag, et al, should be fired. That won't happen. Let a corp engage in idiotic discrimination and see what the Fedgov will do. Congress could fix this insanity. This Congress is big part of the problem. Vote the bums out in Nov...not holding my breath.