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You mean "just as worse" as Obama and Bush W.

Everything else you said, I've already said. You just have a different opinion of Trumps part in.

And once again, price increases are not instantaneous with monetary increases. 3.9 Trillion in 2020 was going to and did cause inflation.

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What percentage do you think?

Of the 20% real inflation we have today, how much would prices have increased if the 2021 deficit was lower than GDP growth?

No one is arguing that it wasn't a contributing factor. But inflation today isn't something that Trump owns "lock stock and barrel".

How much inflation did we experience in 2019 from the deficits that Trump ran from 2016 to 2018?

What would inflation have been if we had a balanced budget during that time period?

Do you agree that COVID was a major contributing factor to the fiscal and monetary policies of governments worldwide in 2020? Would you agree that it was the 100% reason for the soaring deficits in 2020?

Quit painting Trump like he spent like a drunken sailor. He spent money like a coward that was afraid of the germy boogy man. It is intellectually dishonest not to factor COVID response into any analysis of today's inflation that blames past deficits.

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I hope those yellow belly liberals and suburban soccer moms and dads are happy now. With the mail in ballots and election fraud we got exactly what was being predicted .

The DC swamp will still get paid and have little effect on their lives. America when are you going to wake up about democrats?

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The entire establishment is driving this train off the cliff, not just the democrats. 2020 doesn't happen without GOPe stooges sitting on their asses.

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Know how I know you're a CM?

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I hope those yellow belly liberals and suburban soccer moms and dads are happy now. With the mail in ballots and election fraud we got exactly what was being predicted .

The DC swamp will still get paid and have little effect on their lives. America when are you going to wake up about democrats?

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The entire establishment is driving this train off the cliff, not just the democrats. 2020 doesn't happen without GOPe stooges sitting on their asses.

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Know how I know you're a CM?

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Pookers? Err, Nooo. Not at all. What he means is setting on their butts and letting the elections go ahead without tighter oversight. Remember all that talk about the army of lawyers being hired by the DNC and various changes in election laws? There were alot of GOPe that did nothing to try to blunt that. And still are not. It is the 2.0's that are getting some things done.

Texit!

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I hope those yellow belly liberals and suburban soccer moms and dads are happy now. With the mail in ballots and election fraud we got exactly what was being predicted .

The DC swamp will still get paid and have little effect on their lives. America when are you going to wake up about democrats?

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The entire establishment is driving this train off the cliff, not just the democrats. 2020 doesn't happen without GOPe stooges sitting on their asses.

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Know how I know you're a CM?

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So I'm a CM because I'm correctly pointing out that most of the GOPe is also corrupt? Pathetic. Your way of thinking on this is why this country is likely to never get fixed. Stop playing team sports when both teams are set up to **** the people over.

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You mean "just as worse" as Obama and Bush W.

Everything else you said, I've already said. You just have a different opinion of Trumps part in.

And once again, price increases are not instantaneous with monetary increases. 3.9 Trillion in 2020 was going to and did cause inflation.

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What percentage do you think?

Of the 20% real inflation we have today, how much would prices have increased if the 2021 deficit was lower than GDP growth?

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My guess would be around 16% (2% more to Bidens policies and 2% more to Energy prices, hang that on a combo Biden/War.

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Not as much, because the Fed raised rates (meaning they didn't add as much money to the system. Deficit spending only leads to monetary increases if the Fed holds rates the same. With deficit spending to hold rates the same the Fed has to buy securities and inject money into the system. You can have deficit spending were the govt spends (adds money into the system) then have the Fed take that money out of the system when they sell the securities, but the additional securities will raise rates.

Btw, Trump took office Jan 2017, not 2016. (Though that's not a big deal, just pointing it out).

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What would inflation have been if we had a balanced budget during that time period?

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Do you agree that COVID was a major contributing factor to the fiscal and monetary policies of governments worldwide in 2020? Would you agree that it was the 100% reason for the soaring deficits in 2020?

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Yes it was stupid, should have never happened, I said so at the time and predicted high inflation between mid 2021 and mid 2022.

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Quit painting Trump like he spent like a drunken sailor. He spent money like a coward that was afraid of the germy boogy man. It is intellectually dishonest not to factor COVID response into any analysis of today's inflation that blames past deficits.

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Sailors can't deficit spend. Todays politicians are worse than drunken sailors. Trump was both a spender and in your words a "coward". He ran deficits his first three years higher than Obama's last four. Even Biden's 2021 deficit was smaller than Trump's 2020 (even though it was bad as well). But in 2021 M2 only increased 1.3T compared to 3.9 in 2020 with Trump. Actually Trump averaged an M2 increase 17-19 of 700 billion/year. So do I think Biden's extra 509 billion over that amount is more responsible for inflation than the extra 3.2 Trillion in 2020? No.

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Under the Carter era definition, that is almost 20%. At this rate, a dollar I earn today is worthless in 5 years!

Dude still has almost 40% approval! Psycho liberals, especially the white liberals.

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Not everyone votes for economy. Republicans should take note.

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Further proof that basic civics AND economics exams should be required to vote.

So we are getting into the month of higher numbers from last year.

I need some help here, since I am not too up to date on my inflation information...

So last Jun, we had 5.4% inflation. And this just we had 9.1% inflation. So does that mean since Jun of 2020, we have had 5.4% inflation and now 9.1% inflation in regards to Jun 2020?

So since Jun of 2020, inflation has been 14.5% in the last 2 years?

COLA increase will be big this year

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So we are getting into the month of higher numbers from last year.

I need some help here, since I am not too up to date on my inflation information...

So last Jun, we had 5.4% inflation. And this just we had 9.1% inflation. So does that mean since Jun of 2020, we have had 5.4% inflation and now 9.1% inflation in regards to Jun 2020?

So since Jun of 2020, inflation has been 14.5% in the last 2 years?

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No. Assuming those numbers are accurate (they're not as has been mentioned every single inflation thread for the past 12 months) it means we have had 14.99%. It compounds.

14.99 since Jun 2020.

1>> 1.054 for 2021 (5.4% increase year over year)
1.054>> 1.1499 for 2022 (9.1% increase year over year)

Edit: Fenrir beat me to it.

To bad we will never know how President Trump would have handled inflation since 2021. I would bet that he would have handled oil and gas production differently which may have mitigated some of the increase in prices for all goods.

Also, would Putin still have invaded Ukraine while President Trump was in office? We'll never know.

Those posters blaming President Trump are only correct that he over spent tax revenues on the BS COVID polices based on crap science. Should have spent resources on those people most at risk, the elderly and medically compromised.

And President Biden's administration has aggravated inflation across the board. President Biden's administration is doing nothing to prevent inflation and actively pushing policies that will increase inflation. They seriously propose spending to reduce inflation….. idiots.

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To bad we will never know how President Trump would have handled inflation since 2021. I would bet that he would have handled oil and gas production differently which may have mitigated some of the increase in prices for all goods.

Also, would Putin still have invaded Ukraine while President Trump was in office? We'll never know.

Those posters blaming President Trump are only correct that he over spent tax revenues on the BS COVID polices based on crap science. Should have spent resources on those people most at risk, the elderly and medically compromised.

And President Biden's administration has aggravated inflation across the board. President Biden's administration is doing nothing to prevent inflation and actively pushing policies that will increase inflation. They seriously propose spending to reduce inflation….. idiots.

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Had Trump not "trusted the science" they would had removed him from office. It was absolutely a no win situation for him.

Yield curve inversion between 10-year and 2-year rates reaches biggest point since the year 2000

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Under the Carter era definition, that is almost 20%. At this rate, a dollar I earn today is worthless in 5 years!

Dude still has almost 40% approval! Psycho liberals, especially the white liberals.

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Not everyone votes for economy. Republicans should take note.

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And that is why you'll end up destitute one day. Everyone's social issues, including mine, pail in comparison to being able to feed and shelter yourself and family. But hey, don't let history guide you, just keep thinking it will be (D)ifferent this time.

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If I end up destitute worlds gonna look pretty bleak. If economy is most important be sure to let Dan Patrick and all the other hardline social conservatives know.

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I'm not really a fan of Patrick or really any of the states GOP leaders. But my dislike for them is more about style and rhetorical choices they make. And I think they sit in these offices they hold for longer than necessary.

In terms of policymaking, while there is certainly room for improvement, what exactly have they done in 30 years and more specifically the last 15 years while Patrick has been a Texas State Senator and Lt Gov, should lead us to beleive that Texas' economic performance isn't of primary importance?

Just one Texas snapshot of many:
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2022/04/05/gdp-dallas-tarrant-texas.html

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The increase in GDP for Texas is consistent with other economic indicators that flag Texas as the best state in the nation to do business, said Robert Allen, President and CEO of the Texas Economic Development Corp., based in Austin.

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While I think pain in coming to Texas. We won't be immune to decisionmaking at a federal level. But the states longtime economic mindset at a state level will likely act as a hedge against far worse outcomes to this awful inflation numbers.

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I hope those yellow belly liberals and suburban soccer moms and dads are happy now. With the mail in ballots and election fraud we got exactly what was being predicted .

The DC swamp will still get paid and have little effect on their lives. America when are you going to wake up about democrats?

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The entire establishment is driving this train off the cliff, not just the democrats. 2020 doesn't happen without GOPe stooges sitting on their asses.

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Know how I know you're a CM?

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So I'm a CM because I'm correctly pointing out that most of the GOPe is also corrupt? Pathetic. Your way of thinking on this is why this country is likely to never get fixed. Stop playing team sports when both teams are set up to **** the people over.

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It's a two team game. One side is hopelessly corrupt. Maybe years ago there were some good Dems who didn't hate the country and were not socialists.

The last chance at turning the tide is to invest in the less corrupt party. To whine about how "both sides do it" is defeatist. Instead of attacking friends and allies as part of the establishment, like CMs always seem to do BTW, let's work on electing the best Republicans we can and encourage them to lead conservatively.

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This is akin to saying throwing me a volleyball while I'm drowning in the ocean is going to help me more than throwing a dumbbell. Technically true, but neither is going to do anything.

The Reps don't give a f*** about spending. If you haven't come to that conclusion after the first 20 years of this millennium, you just aren't looking at the data. They've literally demonstrated it to you every time they are given another shot to be in charge.

The two party system is dragging this country into the abyss. The sooner you accept that, the greater the chances that we can salvage something out of this.

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This is akin to saying throwing me a volleyball while I'm drowning in the ocean is going to help me more than throwing a dumbbell. Technically true, but neither is going to do anything.

The Reps don't give a f*** about spending. If you haven't come to that conclusion after the first 20 years of this millennium, you just aren't looking at the data. They've literally demonstrated it to you every time they are given another shot to be in charge.

The two party system is dragging this country into the abyss. The sooner you accept that, the greater the chances that we can salvage something out of this.

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Then help fix it, because it ain't going away. Third parties are utterly useless and the rare Independent who gets elected always seems to caucus with the Democrats.

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I hope those yellow belly liberals and suburban soccer moms and dads are happy now. With the mail in ballots and election fraud we got exactly what was being predicted .

The DC swamp will still get paid and have little effect on their lives. America when are you going to wake up about democrats?

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The entire establishment is driving this train off the cliff, not just the democrats. 2020 doesn't happen without GOPe stooges sitting on their asses.

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Know how I know you're a CM?

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So I'm a CM because I'm correctly pointing out that most of the GOPe is also corrupt? Pathetic. Your way of thinking on this is why this country is likely to never get fixed. Stop playing team sports when both teams are set up to **** the people over.

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It's a two team game. One side is hopelessly corrupt. Maybe years ago there were some good Dems who didn't hate the country and were not socialists.

The last chance at turning the tide is to invest in the less corrupt party. To whine about how "both sides do it" is defeatist. Instead of attacking friends and allies as part of the establishment, like CMs always seem to do BTW, let's work on electing the best Republicans we can and encourage them to lead conservatively.

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The last chance is to destroy the two party system. The defeatist attitude is to continue to elect corrupt dip****s the GOPe selects for us.

We will never win with a system that is designed to keep us ringfenced in to their system of control. A slave cannot free themselves when they remain chained. Only once the chains are broken can they free themselves. Is it risky breaking the system? Yes. Is it worth the risk? Yes, because we are going to end up in the same communist hellhole if we continue as we have.

Your Romneys and McConnells are every bit the communists anybody on the left is; they simply go about gaining control in different ways.

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The last chance at turning the tide is to invest in the less corrupt party.

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This is akin to saying throwing me a volleyball while I'm drowning in the ocean is going to help me more than throwing a dumbbell. Technically true, but neither is going to do anything.

The Reps don't give a f*** about spending. If you haven't come to that conclusion after the first 20 years of this millennium, you just aren't looking at the data. They've literally demonstrated it to you every time they are given another shot to be in charge.

The two party system is dragging this country into the abyss. The sooner you accept that, the greater the chances that we can salvage something out of this.

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Then help fix it, because it ain't going away. Third parties are utterly useless and the rare Independent who gets elected always seems to caucus with the Democrats.

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Third parties aren't viable because people have been brainwashed into thinking they aren't viable. The very second enough people say enough is enough this whole charade ends.

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The last chance at turning the tide is to invest in the less corrupt party.

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This is akin to saying throwing me a volleyball while I'm drowning in the ocean is going to help me more than throwing a dumbbell. Technically true, but neither is going to do anything.

The Reps don't give a f*** about spending. If you haven't come to that conclusion after the first 20 years of this millennium, you just aren't looking at the data. They've literally demonstrated it to you every time they are given another shot to be in charge.

The two party system is dragging this country into the abyss. The sooner you accept that, the greater the chances that we can salvage something out of this.

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Then help fix it, because it ain't going away. Third parties are utterly useless and the rare Independent who gets elected always seems to caucus with the Democrats.

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I'm trying with my vote. I wish a lot more Americans would join me. I would actually argue that policy wise, there are literally millions upon millions of libertarians in this country right now. But there's a huge "first mover" problem in terms of switching those votes.

It usually goes like "my 3rd party vote is wasted, and I really just don't want the other guy to win", which is largely true right now. But ironically, if all the people who felt this way were to vote 3rd party at once in the same election, it would probably be like a 3rd of the country at this point. But like I said, it's a first mover problem. I'm not sure how you solve that.

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The last chance at turning the tide is to invest in the less corrupt party.

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This is akin to saying throwing me a volleyball while I'm drowning in the ocean is going to help me more than throwing a dumbbell. Technically true, but neither is going to do anything.

The Reps don't give a f*** about spending. If you haven't come to that conclusion after the first 20 years of this millennium, you just aren't looking at the data. They've literally demonstrated it to you every time they are given another shot to be in charge.

The two party system is dragging this country into the abyss. The sooner you accept that, the greater the chances that we can salvage something out of this.

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Then help fix it, because it ain't going away. Third parties are utterly useless and the rare Independent who gets elected always seems to caucus with the Democrats.

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Third parties aren't viable because people have been brainwashed into thinking they aren't viable. The very second enough people say enough is enough this whole charade ends.

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Exactly. It's a paradox. We can simply break free from it if we choose to. Stop voting for these people. Period.

Fed report finds higher fears of inflation and potential recession
PUBLISHED WED, JUL 13 20222:44 PM EDTUPDATED 32 MIN AGO

KEY POINTS

• The Fed's Beige Book pointed to elevated recession fears along with a belief that soaring inflation will last at least through the end of the year.
• On inflation, which is running at its fastest annual rate since November 1981, the report found "substantial price increases" across the country.

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The last chance at turning the tide is to invest in the less corrupt party.

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This is akin to saying throwing me a volleyball while I'm drowning in the ocean is going to help me more than throwing a dumbbell. Technically true, but neither is going to do anything.

The Reps don't give a f*** about spending. If you haven't come to that conclusion after the first 20 years of this millennium, you just aren't looking at the data. They've literally demonstrated it to you every time they are given another shot to be in charge.

The two party system is dragging this country into the abyss. The sooner you accept that, the greater the chances that we can salvage something out of this.

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Then help fix it, because it ain't going away. Third parties are utterly useless and the rare Independent who gets elected always seems to caucus with the Democrats.

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Third parties aren't viable because people have been brainwashed into thinking they aren't viable. The very second enough people say enough is enough this whole charade ends.

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Exactly. It's a paradox. We can simply break free from it if we choose to. Stop voting for these people. Period.

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i've voted L more than a couple of times as of late.

I like the Mesus Caucus people, even if they can kinda be edge Lords. they purged the woke part of the L party last month, would love to see them do something with it, but i'm not holding my breath.

ETA: went and looked it up and Jo Jorgenson actually lost votes compared to Gary Johnson, and that's WITH a Joe Rogan endorsement. i'd argue that Hillary and Trump (2016) were better candidates that Biden and Trump (2020) so that should have been prime for some gains and it was squandered by her being so terrible.

pic.twitter.com/gvaWRqe40w

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Under the Carter era definition, that is almost 20%. At this rate, a dollar I earn today is worthless in 5 years!

Dude still has almost 40% approval! Psycho liberals, especially the white liberals.

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Not everyone votes for economy. Republicans should take note.

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Further proof that basic civics AND economics exams should be required to vote.

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I did go to a cow college for undergrad, but my degrees hanging on wall say I'd pass them.

Here are the U.S. inflation numbers, by month, since October: 6.2 percent, 6.8 percent, 7 percent, 7.4 percent, 7.8 percent, 8.5 percent, 8.2 percent, 8.6 percent, and now 9.1 percent.

That's an absolutely brutal stretch, and the American people would be infuriated by it under any circumstances.

But I suspect there's particular anger among anyone who remembers Biden's declaring about a year ago:

"Our experts believe and the data shows that most of the price increases we've seen are were expected and expected to be temporary. . . . There's nobody suggesting there's unchecked inflation on the way no serious economist."

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The last chance at turning the tide is to invest in the less corrupt party.

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This is akin to saying throwing me a volleyball while I'm drowning in the ocean is going to help me more than throwing a dumbbell. Technically true, but neither is going to do anything.

The Reps don't give a f*** about spending. If you haven't come to that conclusion after the first 20 years of this millennium, you just aren't looking at the data. They've literally demonstrated it to you every time they are given another shot to be in charge.

The two party system is dragging this country into the abyss. The sooner you accept that, the greater the chances that we can salvage something out of this.

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Then help fix it, because it ain't going away. Third parties are utterly useless and the rare Independent who gets elected always seems to caucus with the Democrats.

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Third parties aren't viable because people have been brainwashed into thinking they aren't viable. The very second enough people say enough is enough this whole charade ends.

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Exactly. It's a paradox. We can simply break free from it if we choose to. Stop voting for these people. Period.

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It's also a false choice.

Each party is a coalition of political and other interest groups. The biggest coalition in our system has nearly all the power. The coalitions always align moderate left and moderate right generally, with fluctuations dictated by socioeconomic shifts. The alignment of the various interest groups might change some at the margins but in order to have any power to influence outcomes, they have to be aligned with the biggest party or the next biggest party that has a realistic opportunity to take power and this can operate as at worst a moderating foil to the party in power.

The interest groups that comprise the two largest parties don't change much, they just shift at the margins. Any attempt to build a large third party coalition removes the threat to the largest party and simply changes the power calculation of the second largest one to make platform changes to rebuilt its own coalition.

IF a substantial third party could emerge and overwhelm the second largest, it would necessarily do this by assuming much or most of the political positions of that party to attract its coalition groups, and thus all it would do is assume the role of the second party with effectively much of the same composition and platform. A change in name mostly, and that's it.

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The last chance at turning the tide is to invest in the less corrupt party.

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This is akin to saying throwing me a volleyball while I'm drowning in the ocean is going to help me more than throwing a dumbbell. Technically true, but neither is going to do anything.

The Reps don't give a f*** about spending. If you haven't come to that conclusion after the first 20 years of this millennium, you just aren't looking at the data. They've literally demonstrated it to you every time they are given another shot to be in charge.

The two party system is dragging this country into the abyss. The sooner you accept that, the greater the chances that we can salvage something out of this.

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Then help fix it, because it ain't going away. Third parties are utterly useless and the rare Independent who gets elected always seems to caucus with the Democrats.

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Third parties aren't viable because people have been brainwashed into thinking they aren't viable. The very second enough people say enough is enough this whole charade ends.

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Exactly. It's a paradox. We can simply break free from it if we choose to. Stop voting for these people. Period.

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It's also a false choice.

Each party is a coalition of political and other interest groups. The biggest coalition in our system has nearly all the power. The coalitions always align moderate left and moderate right generally, with fluctuations dictated by socioeconomic shifts. The alignment of the various interest groups might change some at the margins but in order to have any power to influence outcomes, they have to be aligned with the biggest party or the next biggest party that has a realistic opportunity to take power and this can operate as at worst a moderating foil to the party in power.

The interest groups that comprise the two largest parties don't change much, they just shift at the margins. Any attempt to build a large third party coalition removes the threat to the largest party and simply changes the power calculation of the second largest one to make platform changes to rebuilt its own coalition.

IF a substantial third party could emerge and overwhelm the second largest, it would necessarily do this by assuming much or most of the political positions of that party to attract its coalition groups, and thus all it would do is assume the role of the second party with effectively much of the same composition and platform. A change in name mostly, and that's it.

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The people elect our representatives, not the parties. The parties only grift the money. Its why I think Trump going independent offers a unique opportunity to break the system. There's likely not going to be another candidate with the gravitas to successfully gimp both of the current parties. We only need it to be successful once.

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Under the Carter era definition, that is almost 20%. At this rate, a dollar I earn today is worthless in 5 years!

Dude still has almost 40% approval! Psycho liberals, especially the white liberals.

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And that is why you'll end up destitute one day. Everyone's social issues, including mine, pail in comparison to being able to feed and shelter yourself and family. But hey, don't let history guide you, just keep thinking it will be (D)ifferent this time.

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Thinking about his comment combined with a post from a polling thread earlier today showing that Democrats are now "upscale" voters who largely ignore the fundamentals and are focused on leftist, pet causes confirms democrats have completely forgotten about Maslows Hierarchy of Needs.

They are fools.

As you said, ignoring the basics means your pet social issues are irrelevant. No one is going to give a **** about your right to get married as a gay man if the foundation of society is compromised or destroyed.

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If it inflates much more, we'll all be attaining them, I mean it, I mean...bewbs

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REAL AVERAGE HOURLY EARNINGS HIT A NEW ALL-TIME LOW pic.twitter.com/8mbfRrPXOB

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This is akin to saying throwing me a volleyball while I'm drowning in the ocean is going to help me more than throwing a dumbbell. Technically true, but neither is going to do anything.

The Reps don't give a f*** about spending. If you haven't come to that conclusion after the first 20 years of this millennium, you just aren't looking at the data. They've literally demonstrated it to you every time they are given another shot to be in charge.

The two party system is dragging this country into the abyss. The sooner you accept that, the greater the chances that we can salvage something out of this.

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Then help fix it, because it ain't going away. Third parties are utterly useless and the rare Independent who gets elected always seems to caucus with the Democrats.

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Third parties aren't viable because people have been brainwashed into thinking they aren't viable. The very second enough people say enough is enough this whole charade ends.

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in reality the 3rd party is only the second party. the first two are really cojoined AKA the cabal!

I wonder what it must be like to ignore the flaws of your party that may cause someone to vote differently on clearly less important issues to most of the GOP. It's ok though, when you lose can always blame it on cheating. Cheating by an inept party that only chooses to cheat on certain elections, but not all.