I think life begins at conception and an abortion that is not in defense of the mothers life is murder. unless you are a fool you know the rich and mid class that want to murder have the means to still get abortions out of state or country. can the law that allows people to sue people who get abortions be used to hold them accountable for their murders? what other laws could be used to hold them accountable for murder?

Convict the providers, not the women.

Many times women are being pressured, manipulated, lied to.

You understand that under the Texas law the women who get the abortion aren't going to be charged with a crime , the doctor who performs the abortion will. Right?

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This is what I was thinking, but didn't want to take the time to look for it.

CDUB98 said:

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This is terrible, this idea of yours.

And the answer is no.

At this point, just leave people the hell alone and let God sort them out later.

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i am 100% certain that one things conservative should not do is leave them alone. have we not learned our lesson? giving an inch is what has led to what we are dealing with as a country currently. not sure if this posters idea is the correct method but i am 100% certain leaving them alone is not the correct path.

no. and i though it wasnt criminal but a lawsuit for 10k
right?

The law allows for suing those that "aid and abet" abortions.

whats the correct path for holding them accountable?

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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CDUB98 said:

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This is terrible, this idea of yours.

And the answer is no.

At this point, just leave people the hell alone and let God sort them out later.

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i am 100% certain that one things conservative should not do is leave them alone. have we not learned our lesson? giving an inch is what has led to what we are dealing with as a country currently. not sure if this posters idea is the correct method but i am 100% certain leaving them alone is not the correct path.

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Yeah, it kind of is. Conservatives want the government and progressives to leave them alone and let them live their lives, right? We need to do the same. Harassing or haranguing any woman who decides to do this will do nobody any good. This is now a states issue, and TX is now effectively closed. The other states will have to reconcile their own.

At least in TX, as long as the law is followed, that is enough.

not the mother. got it.
so their employer if they help?

If someone does something in another jurisdiction that is legal in said jurisdiction, then there's no standing or action here. That applies to anything

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I think life begins at conception and an abortion that is not in defense of the mothers life is murder. unless you are a fool you know the rich and mid class that want to murder have the means to still get abortions out of state or country. can the law that allows people to sue people who get abortions be used to hold them accountable for their murders? what other laws could be used to hold them accountable for murder?

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I think you'd quickly find out this SC decision isn't as popular as you think. Lot of politicians getting dragged in social media last few days for their hypocrisy in this area.

what about in state assistance for out of state murders?

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I think life begins at conception and an abortion that is not in defense of the mothers life is murder. unless you are a fool you know the rich and mid class that want to murder have the means to still get abortions out of state or country. can the law that allows people to sue people who get abortions be used to hold them accountable for their murders? what other laws could be used to hold them accountable for murder?

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I think you'd quickly find out this SC decision isn't as popular as you think. Lot of politicians getting dragged in social media last few days for their hypocrisy in this area.

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Pointing to the reactions of the screaming left as evidence of unpopularity may not be as accurate as you think. The left likes to scream a lot when things don't go their way.

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damiond said:

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I think life begins at conception and an abortion that is not in defense of the mothers life is murder. unless you are a fool you know the rich and mid class that want to murder have the means to still get abortions out of state or country. can the law that allows people to sue people who get abortions be used to hold them accountable for their murders? what other laws could be used to hold them accountable for murder?

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I think you'd quickly find out this SC decision isn't as popular as you think. Lot of politicians getting dragged in social media last few days for their hypocrisy in this area.

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Pointing to the reactions of the screaming left as evidence of unpopularity may not be as accurate as you think. The left likes to scream a lot when things don't go their way.

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No pointing out pro life politicians and political figures who do not walk their talk.

Just keep deflecting though.

CDUB98 said:

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At this point, just leave people the hell alone and let God sort them out later.

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I could not do this in good conscious. murder is murder. geography dosent matter. hang em high

A lot of women that choose abortions are under a lot of pressure... rom others, from society, from themselves. They are under duress and it is presented to them as either a quick fix or as the only solution. There is room for grace there, or at least there should be. Where there is not, though, is the abortion industry, who profit off of and encourage abortions. The mother is a victim of an abortion, too, but there is plenty of sickening evil involved as there are plenty of vultures looking to feed off of their distress.

I think we need stronger consequences for men who become absentee fathers. Right now, nearly 100% of the burden for a 1 night stand falls on the woman.

We've gone from letting the middle and upper class travel out of state and do what they want to hanging women.

Forum 16 never disappoints.

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I think we need stronger consequences for men who become absentee fathers. Right now, nearly 100% of the burden for a 1 night stand falls on the woman.

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There are child support laws. Some dudes are deadbeats. I did domestic for a while. Got a dude thrown in jail for nonpayment. He sat in jail for 3 months and no one bailed him out. I got the ex-wife to let him out. He just ran to Texas. Picked him up ----> back to Ga. Dude just sat in jail again. Total POS

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no. and i though it wasnt criminal but a lawsuit for 10k
right?

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That law will not hold up, if it ever gets properly challenged (which I find doubtful now that Roe has been overturned). The only reason it hasn't been overturned yet is that it was written in a way that made it difficult for anyone to get a justiciable controversy before the courts.

Murder is a criminal offense, prosecuted by the state.

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damiond said:

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I think life begins at conception and an abortion that is not in defense of the mothers life is murder. unless you are a fool you know the rich and mid class that want to murder have the means to still get abortions out of state or country. can the law that allows people to sue people who get abortions be used to hold them accountable for their murders? what other laws could be used to hold them accountable for murder?

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I think you'd quickly find out this SC decision isn't as popular as you think. Lot of politicians getting dragged in social media last few days for their hypocrisy in this area.

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Pointing to the reactions of the screaming left as evidence of unpopularity may not be as accurate as you think. The left likes to scream a lot.

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fify

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We've gone from letting the middle and upper class travel out of state and do what they want to hanging women.

Forum 16 never disappoints.

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I would probably rather live under the Taliban than democrats.

My constant call the repeal the 19th would certainly happen.

And gay marriage, well …

Wow, not only are we hanging women but also taking away their right to vote.

Ok, that's it, I've reached my F16 limit for the day. And we weren't even able to get in a good civil war thread yet.

GeorgiAg said:

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Wow, not only are we hanging women but also taking away their right to vote.

Ok, that's it, I've reached my F16 limit for the day. And we weren't even able to get in a good civil war thread yet.

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Your people, I see they've welcomed you back to the fold this week.

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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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CDUB98 said:

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This is terrible, this idea of yours.

And the answer is no.

At this point, just leave people the hell alone and let God sort them out later.

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i am 100% certain that one things conservative should not do is leave them alone. have we not learned our lesson? giving an inch is what has led to what we are dealing with as a country currently. not sure if this posters idea is the correct method but i am 100% certain leaving them alone is not the correct path.

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Yeah, it kind of is. Conservatives want the government and progressives to leave them alone and let them live their lives, right? We need to do the same. Harassing or haranguing any woman who decides to do this will do nobody any good. This is now a states issue, and TX is now effectively closed. The other states will have to reconcile their own.

At least in TX, as long as the low is followed, that is enough.

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your not living in reality. yea that is what conservatives want, to be left alone. that is not happening. yes conservatives want the law enforced, this is not happening either. there are judges who are obstructing supreme court rulings by playing politics even here in texas and in many other states.

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GeorgiAg said:

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Wow, not only are we hanging women but also taking away their right to vote.

Ok, that's it, I've reached my F16 limit for the day. And we weren't even able to get in a good civil war thread yet.

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Your people, I see they've welcomed you back to the fold this week.

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I just want low inflation, good energy policy, low taxes, secure borders and strong military/foreign policy. I kinda draw the line at hanging women (who can't vote).

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GeorgiAg said:

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We've gone from letting the middle and upper class travel out of state and do what they want to hanging women.

Forum 16 never disappoints.

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I would probably rather live under the Taliban than democrats.

My constant call the repeal the 19th would certainly happen.

And gay marriage, well …

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WOW

I jump on a meeting for 30 minutes and you turd burglars start dropping nukes in here. Geez.

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GeorgiAg said:

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Wow, not only are we hanging women but also taking away their right to vote.

Ok, that's it, I've reached my F16 limit for the day. And we weren't even able to get in a good civil war thread yet.

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Your people, I see they've welcomed you back to the fold this week.

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I just want low inflation, good energy policy, low taxes, secure borders and strong military/foreign policy. I kinda draw the line at hanging women (who can't vote).

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I'll save you the trouble of checking back in later for the civil war thread.

Naked force has resolved more issues throughout history than any other factor. EOT

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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CDUB98 said:

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This is terrible, this idea of yours.

And the answer is no.

At this point, just leave people the hell alone and let God sort them out later.

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i am 100% certain that one things conservative should not do is leave them alone. have we not learned our lesson? giving an inch is what has led to what we are dealing with as a country currently. not sure if this posters idea is the correct method but i am 100% certain leaving them alone is not the correct path.

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Yeah, it kind of is. Conservatives want the government and progressives to leave them alone and let them live their lives, right? We need to do the same. Harassing or haranguing any woman who decides to do this will do nobody any good. This is now a states issue, and TX is now effectively closed. The other states will have to reconcile their own.

At least in TX, as long as the low is followed, that is enough.

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your not living in reality. yea that is what conservatives want, to be left alone. that is not happening. yes conservatives want the law enforced, this is not happening either. there are judges who are obstructing supreme court rulings by playing politics even here in texas and in many other states.

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Yes, I realize this very much, and I hate it.

That's where Conservatives start. Start pushing for the enforcement of laws and for bad judges to be ousted.

Don't start with trying to sue women into oblivion because they did something legal in another state.