FatZilla said:

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The first person to come up with religion. Aint nothing gonna come close to the number of deaths that religion has caused.

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One person came up with religion?

Eve

Commander Gorn said:

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Eve

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damn it, beat me

Dr. Spoke (sp) is definitely a player!

Steve Jobs. You can't get social media without him.

Most Death? Marx
Most damage to mankind? Zuckerberg
Most damage to Mankind? 'Taker

The dude that decided we should give up the relative eases of Hunter/gather/limited agriculture to full blown agricultural society. All the modern ills of society came from that: hierarchy, class stratification, disease, starvation, political tyranny, corruption, demand for land, wars, organized religion, the state. You name it...all from that.

FTAggies said:

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Neehau said:

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Abraham/Mohammed/Jesus….one of those three. The God of the Old Testament is horrible literary figure similar to Iago. Nothing good about anything these three spread.

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Ahh yes Jesus, the man who sat with prostitutes and cripples and whose followers have such buildings called hospitals and charities named after them, just awful. But of course, that's much worse than the mass murderers of the 20th century. Gotta love the sensational atheists...

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I think he means Jesus as in Hay-soos. The man who makes my burritos and cuts my lawn in his spare time.

FatZilla said:

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The first person to come up with religion. Aint nothing gonna come close to the number of deaths that religion has caused.

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I would argue that atheistic states passed them in the 20th century.

FTAggies said:

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Neehau said:

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Abraham/Mohammed/Jesus….one of those three. The God of the Old Testament is horrible literary figure similar to Iago. Nothing good about anything these three spread.

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Ahh yes Jesus, the man who sat with prostitutes and cripples and whose followers have such buildings called hospitals and charities named after them, just awful. But of course, that's much worse than the mass murderers of the 20th century. Gotta love the sensational atheists...

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Diminishing religion to social work is a poor analog and does nothing to prove any point you think you may have. Hundreds of millions of people have died or have been disenfranchised by theological hypocrites wearing robes using the God of the Bible as their justification.

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If we're talking about who caused the most suffering per capita, it's Genghis Khan and it's not close. Nobody ever inflicted more suffering on a greater percentage of the population during their lifetime.

If we're talking about who caused the greatest amount of suffering in terms of raw numbers, it's Karl Marx. His ideology has killed more humans than any other in history.

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This is the answer.

The Kaiser

My first thoughts are Mohammed and Marx

Napoleon.

Soros.

Decline began way back with Scotus and Ockham. Followed by Descartes and subsequent modern philosophers.

It's actually quite fascinating how much those three, while trying to do good, completely ruined metaphysics and how we view the world and each other.

Celine Dion.

Donald J. Trump

Does WW1 happen if Gavrilo Princip isn't accidentally at the right place at the right time? And if you don't have WW1, does an obscure minority of Bolshevik Revolutionaries ever take control of Russia? There almost certainly isn't the rise of fascism in Italy or Germany or a WW2. And there isn't a Cold War and the subjugation of Eastern Europe for 50 years. That one event caused a lot of suffering and maybe the death of 200m people, not to mention how much wealth that was destroyed.

AgsWin2011 said:

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Obama. Change my mind.

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Gotta go back farther than that, to wherever Obama (or Soros or anyone else) got their ideas.

This is why Marx is a top 3-4 answer to this question.

aggielatoo said:

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Donald J. Trump

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Cute.

Neehau said:

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Abraham/Mohammed/Jesus….one of those three. The God of the Old Testament is horrible literary figure similar to Iago. Nothing good about anything these three spread.

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Jesus was New Testament, just FYI.

Mao

Fabrice Maxime Sylvain Morvan

Never takes long for atheists and Christianity haters to pop out.

CDUB98 said:

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Never takes long for atheists and Christianity haters to pop out.

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Not any quicker than the Black and Muslim haters to show up and in high volume.

Eliminatus said:

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Neehau said:

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Abraham/Mohammed/Jesus….one of those three. The God of the Old Testament is horrible literary figure similar to Iago. Nothing good about anything these three spread.

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And here is the derail I've been waiting for....

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How we made it to the bottom part of p. 2 before this got thrown in is the most surprising thing that's happened today

MooreTrucker said:

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Neehau said:

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Abraham/Mohammed/Jesus….one of those three. The God of the Old Testament is horrible literary figure similar to Iago. Nothing good about anything these three spread.

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Jesus was New Testament, just FYI.

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Actually, the pre-incarnate Jesus, the 2nd person of the Trinity, is throughout the Old Testament.

Gbr1971 said:

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Does WW1 happen if Gavrilo Princip isn't accidentally at the right place at the right time? And if you don't have WW1, does an obscure minority of Bolshevik Revolutionaries ever take control of Russia? There almost certainly isn't the rise of fascism in Italy or Germany or a WW2. And there isn't a Cold War and the subjugation of Eastern Europe for 50 years. That one event caused a lot of suffering and maybe the death of 200m people, not to mention how much wealth that was destroyed.

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You can expand that line of thought to Asia. If no WWI, and thus no WWII, do we ever have war with Japan and nukes? Do we ever wind up with a triumphant Mao in China? No Korean war, no Vietnam?

Sanger or Hitler and it's not even close

HabitualLineStepper said:

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CDUB98 said:

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Never takes long for atheists and Christianity haters to pop out.

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Not any quicker than the Black and Muslim haters to show up and in high volume.

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High volume?

LOL, you're delusional


The vast majority of answers are white people of history. Why you and Neehau are allowed to troll incessantly is beyond me.

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The vast majority of answers are white people of history.

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That's what happens when you invent things and have the ability to write stuff down.

madalyn murray o'hair