Nationwide Baby Formula Shortage Hits "Shocking" Levels, Sparking Panic Among Parents

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Tanya 93
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Marcus Brutus said:

The female above did it at home and not during work. Stop with the excuses.
The woman I quoted did it while walking around at work

The did it only at home woman I called lucky for her ability to go 8-10 hours without expressing

The important thing is the child is fed well.
But keep on judging on.
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2aggiesmom said:

Tanya 93 said:

2aggiesmom said:

Tanya 93 said:

Burdizzo said:

Not every mother/child can breastfeed agreed, but I would like to know how many can and choose not to.


I think having to work probably has a lot to do with formula feeding
I worked full time and breastfed. It can be done if you are committed to making it work.
And you had the ability to pump.

Did you work full time in fast food and manage to pump in the bathroom?
I didn't pump at all at work. I pumped at home, you know instead of sleeping. Like I said you do whatever you make a priority. If you have no milk you obviously cannot breastfeed (unless you are Anthony Blinken).
No one is saying that.


If you told my wife to just pump whenever she was at home because, "you do whatever you make a priority," she might slap the **** out of you. No way in Hell could she go 10 hours without pumping or feeding, and I'm sure she isn't an exception to the rule.

Not everyone is like you. Not everyone has your life. This, "If I can do it, so can everyone else," and, "You can do anything if you just try hard enough," attitude is nothing more than an oversimplification and cop out.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

2aggiesmom said:

Tanya 93 said:

2aggiesmom said:

Tanya 93 said:

Burdizzo said:

Not every mother/child can breastfeed agreed, but I would like to know how many can and choose not to.


I think having to work probably has a lot to do with formula feeding
I worked full time and breastfed. It can be done if you are committed to making it work.
And you had the ability to pump.

Did you work full time in fast food and manage to pump in the bathroom?
I didn't pump at all at work. I pumped at home, you know instead of sleeping. Like I said you do whatever you make a priority. If you have no milk you obviously cannot breastfeed (unless you are Anthony Blinken).
No one is saying that.


If you told my wife to just pump whenever she was at home because, "you do whatever you make a priority," she might slap the **** out of you. No way in Hell could she go 10 hours without pumping or feeding, and I'm sure she isn't an exception to the rule.

Not everyone is like you. Not everyone has your life. This, "If I can do it, so can everyone else," and, "You can do anything if you just try hard enough," attitude is nothing more than an oversimplification and cop out.


Agree. Takes a pretty shortsighted person. There are all sorts of reasons why in some situations it's a lousy option. As I mentioned, we lived one good one that worked great and one really bad one where it became completely untenable. There were several issues with our 2nd where we had to break away from the norms to help the kid grow and get rest. That also included having her sleep on her belly vs her back
DannyDuberstein
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And yes, there was a time in human history that there was no formula and the species survived on breastfeeding alone. Of course, as recently as 1900, the average lifespan in the United States was 46 years old. So there's that. Some things have improved our health and outcomes, and in some scenarios, one of those things has been baby formula
BoydCrowder13
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One of those threads where it easy to spot those without kids.
Serotonin
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I didn't realize until having kids that divisions in parenting tactics make Russia-Ukraine look like two kittens playfighting.

Bottle feed too early?
Breastfeed too long?
Make the kid cry it out too early?
Let the kid sleep in your bed?
Potty train them the wrong way?

Whatever your answer, the important thing to remember is you screwed them up and their lives and the next 7 generations are ruined because of one little thing you did when they were 2.
2aggiesmom
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ABATTBQ11 said:

2aggiesmom said:

Tanya 93 said:

2aggiesmom said:

Tanya 93 said:

Burdizzo said:

Not every mother/child can breastfeed agreed, but I would like to know how many can and choose not to.


I think having to work probably has a lot to do with formula feeding
I worked full time and breastfed. It can be done if you are committed to making it work.
And you had the ability to pump.

Did you work full time in fast food and manage to pump in the bathroom?
I didn't pump at all at work. I pumped at home, you know instead of sleeping. Like I said you do whatever you make a priority. If you have no milk you obviously cannot breastfeed (unless you are Anthony Blinken).
No one is saying that.


If you told my wife to just pump whenever she was at home because, "you do whatever you make a priority," she might slap the **** out of you. No way in Hell could she go 10 hours without pumping or feeding, and I'm sure she isn't an exception to the rule.

Not everyone is like you. Not everyone has your life. This, "If I can do it, so can everyone else," and, "You can do anything if you just try hard enough," attitude is nothing more than an oversimplification and cop out.
You are right. Not everyone is like me. Not everyone is like you either, or has all the same views. I just volunteered my opinion because it was my personal experience and I was responding to a direct question from Tanya. I didn't realize that is not allowed here.
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Sea Speed said:

Not every woman nor child has the ability to breast feed. I understand your point, but it isn't a black or white thing.
It's best that lay people refrain from providing medical opinions

Inadequate infant nutrition is largely quantifiable and objective.

Failure to achieve acceptable growth is also readily discernible in infants and children

zag213004
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Not just every woman is different but so is every pregnancy. Breast fed for a year with first two then BOOM twins. Breast feeding multiples? Yeah it's VERY difficult. Hell just picking them up at the same time is a chore. And yes we pumped and supplemented with formula. but the sleepless nights with twins in an effort to keep weight up brought tremendous mental and physical stress that pushed seasoned parents to the brink. We went with formula exclusively after 1-2 months with a baby brezza (2 bottles warmed and filled to correct portion in < 1 min.)

So once again another example of why a family doesn't breast feed. It's not laziness or unwilling to sacrifice or dealing with the consequences of our actions. It's life and every situation is different. As someone said you can tell who the people are that have no kids that post on this thread
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Bought almost a year supply back at first of year when I feared this would happen post our 2nd baby in November. Unfortunately all the cases of similac I had were caught in that recall a few months back. Been a PITA since..
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Trump would have been all over this infant formula shortage! He would have called an emergency meeting of formula manufacturers, transport companies, suppliers of ingredients for infant formula and this country would turn on a dime and start making up for the shortage.

Where are you Dems on the infant formula issue?! I thought you were big on Women's Issues!! Joe Biden is worried about transgender and abortion issues while the infant shortage has become a crisis.

Dems on issues effecting Women:
  • Vaccine Mandates - Your bodies, Dems/Libs choice - get the vacc or lose your job
  • Mask Mandates - Your bodies, Dems/Libs choice - wear a mask or lose your job or go to jail
  • Lockdowns - Your bodies, Dems/Libs choice - lockdown schools and businesses with terrible consequences for female workers, business owners and students
  • Ivermectin and other alternative COVID therapeutics - Your bodies, Dems/Libs choice - denied women of opportunities for alternate (and possibly lifesaving) therapeutics
  • Girl and Women athletes - Your teams, Dems/Libs choice for males to play on female teams - ridiculously unfair advantage in competition and female athletes embarrassed by having to share locker room with males
  • Girl and Women bathrooms - Your bathrooms, Dems/Libs choice for males to use female bathrooms - this led to at least two alleged rapes in school bathrooms in Virginia

Dear Dems and other Libs/Mods: How long, "must children cry and mothers plead in vain"?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10788099/Mothers-country-barren-shelves-search-baby-formula-amid-shortage.html
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'I can't feed my son': Desperate parents cannot get hold of baby formula amid a national shortage as stores ration cans that are selling on eBay for up to $800 after infection killed baby and caused huge recall

  • Mothers across the country are struggling to feed their babies amid a nationwide shortage of baby formula
  • In the week ending April 24, 40 to 50 percent of the top-selling baby formula products were out of stock at stores across the country
  • The national out-of-stock levels jumped nine percentage points from 31 percent to 40 percent between April 3 and April 24
  • That is up 11 percent from last November, with the average cost of infant formula jumping more than 18 percent over the past year
  • The shortage comes amid COVID-related supply-chain issues and a national recall after a bacteria was found at a Michigan plant
  • Producers say they they are now trying to ramp up production
  • In the meantime, mothers should not try to dilute the formula, make their own or substitute it with cow's milk
By MELISSA KOENIG FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 23:46 EDT, 5 May 2022 | UPDATED: 12:01 EDT, 6 May 2022


I voted for this because I like Mean Tweets!
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TitanAGGIE09 said:

Bought almost a year supply back at first of year when I feared this would happen post our 2nd baby in November. Unfortunately all the cases of similac I had were caught in that recall a few months back. Been a PITA since..
Recall?

Is that legit? Or this is another created "crisis" ?
Tanya 93
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aggiehawg said:

TitanAGGIE09 said:

Bought almost a year supply back at first of year when I feared this would happen post our 2nd baby in November. Unfortunately all the cases of similac I had were caught in that recall a few months back. Been a PITA since..
Recall?

Is that legit? Or this is another created "crisis" ?
No

It is for real
And the administration has basically ignored it

This is what Benny took

https://www.amazon.com/Enfamil-Gentlease-Neuroiq-Powder-Ounce/dp/B077MH1Z5T/ref=sr_1_2?crid=U1CXTV070Y2Z&keywords=enfamil+gentlease&qid=1651883998&sprefix=enf%2Caps%2C426&sr=8-2

That is out of stock

It recommends this as a substitute
A 2 pound can for 40 dollars



This shortage is scary legit
SociallyConditionedAg
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A nationwide shortage on high fructose corn syrup and soy protein?
TitanAGGIE09
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Shortage is legit, created or not is anyones guess but the recall created vast demand.

This was the recall. I had to take back $1300 of formula to Sam's that I had calculated out to get us through the expiration dates in September.... Big time sucked, but wife was 100% out on using it and I was out on using it about 95%.. but she'd probably say i'm a moron.

Got money back of course but would rather have the formula.

https://www.similacrecall.com/us/en/home.html

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aggiehawg said:

TitanAGGIE09 said:

Bought almost a year supply back at first of year when I feared this would happen post our 2nd baby in November. Unfortunately all the cases of similac I had were caught in that recall a few months back. Been a PITA since..
Recall?

Is that legit? Or this is another created "crisis" ?


A few babies got sick and died from similac (one of the largest producers) and they had a nationwide recall. Parents are quite sensitive to such things so millions of cans were thrown away. Because of this, a lot of folks switched to other brands. Demand went way up for the other brands and supply couldn't possibly keep up for these brands leading to empty shelves and no stock online. That's a scary sight for parents which leads to buying everything they can when it's available which makes the supply/demand issue even worse. Add that to an already jacked up supply chain and you have a full blown crisis.
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Was your entire supply in the bad batches? That is some mega bad luck.
TitanAGGIE09
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Yep.. checked every barcode one by one. I said a few choice words. Of course then it was somewhat available places but not 100% by any means.. there were already murmurs of issues coming so I was like what the hell let's stock up. I roughly calculated out how many we'd need through the longest expiration dates I could find and bought it all. Had almost 40 containers. We went through a little of it before the recall. Think I returned 30-32 of them
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ABATTBQ11 said:

Not every woman can breast feed effectively. Some kids don't want to latch. It's legitimately painful for some women to pump. Mom might be put on meds that keep her from breastfeeding. There's a whole host of legitimate reasons why a baby might be formula fed.


We experienced this first hand over the past 6 months with our first child. His digestive system was found to be underdeveloped and needed an amino acid based formula. That stuff is worth more than gold. You have no idea how desperate moms are for the right type of formula. My wife is on several support groups where others are pleading for just 1 can willing to pay 3-4x retail price.
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cbaker20 said:

I understand the regulations that no employee should be forced to pump in a bathroom and I support them. That said, I have pumped:

Next to my seatmate on a commercial flight (multiple times) using a modesty cover
In a public restroom with people in the stalls next to me
At the counter in a public restroom when stalls were full
In public at the airport under a modesty cover
In my car while driving, hands free and safely I promise
In a park
While walking around finishing charts on battery power

I got it done. I didn't need a frou frou lounge to do it. Nobody gave a crap if I had time to pump or a place to pump as a medical resident. I did it on my own time and figured it out. I am proud that I made a commitment and followed through for my kids.

I believe that if a woman wants to make it happen she usually can, notwithstanding supply problems that can't be managed or medical issues. I agree that babies need to be fed regardless of method, but breast milk is baby's ideal food. It provides short term immunity and some long term protection against obesity and childhood cancer that formula cannot replicate.

No doubt there are women who *cannot* breastfeed and want to do so. I sympathize, that must be a terrible feeling. There are many more who are inconvenienced by it and choose not to because there is an alternative. It's all great until that alternative disappears.


That's very inspiring. Thanks for sharing.
Trump will fix it.
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redcrayon
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Maybe those of us out of state could help the people here get some formula if you can't find it. It sounds like Texas is harder hit than other areas. Let us know!
V8Aggie
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First time dad here, baby is 7 weeks.

Breast feeding is not easy. In fact it's downright difficult and mentally draining for a woman. It's painful, nipples actually crack and split down the middle and babies can have a whole host of issues that make it difficult to impossible.

My son was born tongue tied which makes it very difficult for him to latch. My wife goes to a lactation consultant every week to learn new techniques in order to help. Additionally the little guy has reflux really bad which causes him to spit up after every meal and also causes him to self limit how much he actually eats. He has lost weight because of this and we're just now getting him back in track.

Formula has helped but we're now 3 weeks without formula.

And no I don't sleep in. I can't feed much due to not enough pumped but I get my ass out of bed and change him then hand off to my wife. Other husbands are lazy that don't help.

If this was easy there wouldn't be a whole plethora of lactation consultant's covered by insurance to help moms.

Don't be ignorant and speak about things you know nothing about. Yes a lot of moms probably chose to feed formula out of ease but that's not really your business.

Additionally, formula is typically needed when babies are born with jaundice (which is a majority of them). Helps get them pooping in large amounts to drop the bilirubin levels faster.
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It's beginning to feel a lot like communism around this *****. Formula lines will next become bread and sugar lines. Thanks Joe!
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V8Aggie said:

First time dad here, baby is 7 weeks.

Breast feeding is not easy. In fact it's downright difficult and mentally draining for a woman. It's painful, nipples actually crack and split down the middle and babies can have a whole host of issues that make it difficult to impossible.

My son was born tongue tied which makes it very difficult for him to latch. My wife goes to a lactation consultant every week to learn new techniques in order to help. Additionally the little guy has reflux really bad which causes him to spit up after every meal and also causes him to self limit how much he actually eats. He has lost weight because of this and we're just now getting him back in track.

Formula has helped but we're now 3 weeks without formula.

And no I don't sleep in. I can't feed much due to not enough pumped but I get my ass out of bed and change him then hand off to my wife. Other husbands are lazy that don't help.

If this was easy there wouldn't be a whole plethora of lactation consultant's covered by insurance to help moms.

Don't be ignorant and speak about things you know nothing about. Yes a lot of moms probably chose to feed formula out of ease but that's not really your business.

Additionally, formula is typically needed when babies are born with jaundice (which is a majority of them). Helps get them pooping in large amounts to drop the bilirubin levels faster.


We had literally the exact same thing happen. Jaundice at birth so they wanted us to supplement. Latching issues because of a tough/cheek/lip tie. Inverted nipple. Reflux. Blood in stool from immature digestive system. Not enough from pumping. We tried everything under the sun to breastfeed, and I was adamant that we needed to do it no matter what. Caused a lot of fights, but at the end of the day we went 100% formula at around 4 weeks. Finally, after being to several doctors to get everything diagnosed and addressed, a special formula was the only thing that saved us. At the end of the day, formula is very close to breast milk these days, and fed is best no matter how you do it. Don't let anyone shame you for using formula.
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Spotted Ag said:

How on earth did the human population survive until formula was created?

Yes, some have issues. That's not the norm. It's the exception.

Raising a human requires sacrifice. A sacrifice many don't want to have to deal with these days. Thus the vigorous debate about killing a human before it is born because "muh body muh choice"
^^^^^^^
V8Aggie
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The abortion debate has no place here.

I say that as a conservative Christian that had to wait 5 years and go through IUIs, a miscarriage and IVF to finally have our angel.
V8Aggie
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We have no problem using formula if needed. Glad y'all got on the right track finally. These first few months really suck!
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It's fun watching our country deteriorate into anarcho-communism while we give hundreds of millions of dollars to a country on the other side of the world with zero strategic interest for us.

Pretty awesome time in American history.
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Rattler12 said:

Spotted Ag said:

How on earth did the human population survive until formula was created?

Yes, some have issues. That's not the norm. It's the exception.

Raising a human requires sacrifice. A sacrifice many don't want to have to deal with these days. Thus the vigorous debate about killing a human before it is born because "muh body muh choice"
^^^^^^^


Infant mortality was a whole lot higher that's for sure.
Rattler12
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Rattler12 said:

Spotted Ag said:

How on earth did the human population survive until formula was created?

Yes, some have issues. That's not the norm. It's the exception.

Raising a human requires sacrifice. A sacrifice many don't want to have to deal with these days. Thus the vigorous debate about killing a human before it is born because "muh body muh choice"
^^^^^^^


Infant mortality was a whole lot higher that's for sure.
And that was due to not having formula available.....right...
Tanya 93
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Rattler12 said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Rattler12 said:

Spotted Ag said:

How on earth did the human population survive until formula was created?

Yes, some have issues. That's not the norm. It's the exception.

Raising a human requires sacrifice. A sacrifice many don't want to have to deal with these days. Thus the vigorous debate about killing a human before it is born because "muh body muh choice"
^^^^^^^


Infant mortality was a whole lot higher that's for sure.
And that was due to not having formula available.....right...

Part of it was

Some mothers are literally dry from the moment of birth
Ol_Ag_02
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Rattler12 said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Rattler12 said:

Spotted Ag said:

How on earth did the human population survive until formula was created?

Yes, some have issues. That's not the norm. It's the exception.

Raising a human requires sacrifice. A sacrifice many don't want to have to deal with these days. Thus the vigorous debate about killing a human before it is born because "muh body muh choice"
^^^^^^^


Infant mortality was a whole lot higher that's for sure.
And that was due to not having formula available.....right...



Yay!!! Lesson learned for today!
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Thanks for sharing. We are week 10 and our experience is nearly identical in every way. People do not talk enough about the tongue/lip tie.
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YouBet said:

It's fun watching our country deteriorate into anarcho-communism while we give hundreds of millions of dollars to a country on the other side of the world with zero strategic interest for us.

Pretty awesome time in American history.
It is important to the elite class because they need a place to launder our tax dollars.
 
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