V8Aggie said:

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The abortion debate has no place here.

I say that as a conservative Christian that had to wait 5 years and go through IUIs, a miscarriage and IVF to finally have our angel.

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Here's to hoping round 2 will be easier. We used the miracles of modern medicine for number 1 and like 6 months after she was born SURPRISE!! round 2

Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Rattler12 said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Rattler12 said:

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Spotted Ag said:

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How on earth did the human population survive until formula was created?

Yes, some have issues. That's not the norm. It's the exception.

Raising a human requires sacrifice. A sacrifice many don't want to have to deal with these days. Thus the vigorous debate about killing a human before it is born because "muh body muh choice"

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^^^^^^^

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Infant mortality was a whole lot higher that's for sure.

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And that was due to not having formula available.....right...

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Yay!!! Lesson learned for today!

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I don't get this whole thread. I just searched the NYT database and the most recent article about "baby formula" is unrelated and from back in February.

This is all just disinformation.

Names noted. Spreadsheet updated. Biden's Ministry of Truth has been notified. You have been warned.

Sid Farkas said:

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I don't get this whole thread. I just searched the NYT database and the most recent article about "baby formula" is unrelated and from back in February.

This is all just disinformation.

Names noted. Spreadsheet updated. Biden's Ministry of Truth has been notified. You have been warned.

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https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/baby-formula-shortage-what-to-do/

Have you seen the formula shelves today?

V8Aggie said:

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Have you seen the formula shelves today?

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Yeah... Spreadsheet updated indeed.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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V8Aggie said:

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Have you seen the formula shelves today?

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Yeah... Spreadsheet updated indeed.

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The Sam's Manager on a facebook group for our city says the shelves are empty and they probably wll not get more until Tuesday at the earliest

Tanya 93 said:

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Sid Farkas said:

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I don't get this whole thread. I just searched the NYT database and the most recent article about "baby formula" is unrelated and from back in February.

This is all just disinformation.

Names noted. Spreadsheet updated. Biden's Ministry of Truth has been notified. You have been warned.

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https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/baby-formula-shortage-what-to-do/

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thanks for the link...the story is buried in the tech section and presented as advice on how to find alternatives (really?)

fwiw, that article is a month old...I guess for some reason the NYT search engine didnt pick it up an hour ago.

Sid Farkas said:

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Tanya 93 said:

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Sid Farkas said:

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I don't get this whole thread. I just searched the NYT database and the most recent article about "baby formula" is unrelated and from back in February.

This is all just disinformation.

Names noted. Spreadsheet updated. Biden's Ministry of Truth has been notified. You have been warned.

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https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/baby-formula-shortage-what-to-do/

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thanks for the link...the story is buried in the tech section and presented as advice on how to find alternatives (really?)

fwiw, that article is a month old...I guess for some reason the NYT search engine didnt pick it up an hour ago.

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This is from 2 days ago

Parents of infants across the U.S. are taking to social media pleading for media coverage and political action while posting pictures of empty store shelves, as the country's baby formula shortage continues to get worse.

"If the [mainstream media] can talk about the toilet paper shortage ever (sic) hour, they should be talking about the baby formula shortage at least," one new mom tweeted last week. "We ended [up] finding the Amazon brand online but not everyone is so lucky to be able to feed that. Please share. This is every store!"


The problem has gone beyond finding particular formulas that individual babies can tolerate. Several parents expressed trouble finding formula at all, and delivery is no longer reliable.
ABBOTT NUTRITION'S BABY FORMULA RECALL WIDENS AFTER ANOTHER INFANT DIES
Fox News Digital spoke to a Michigan mom with young kids who said her last usual Amazon order for formula was delayed and ultimately canceled on Thursday, so she quickly went out and was frustrated to discover there was no formula to be found in at least four major stores in her area.






The New York mother of a newborn told FOX Business her infant lost a lot of weight following birth, so she and her husband had to supplement the baby's diet with formula because she could not produce enough breast milk to keep up.
"When we ran to the local Target one day to get some [formula] just days after she was born, the shelves were completely empty," the new mom said. "My heart literally sank."
"Luckily she doesn't need any special formula and I was able to order online, but not everyone has been as lucky," she explained.


https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/baby-formula-shortage-sparking-panic-moms-parents-u-s

Sid Farkas said:

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I don't get this whole thread. I just searched the NYT database and the most recent article about "baby formula" is unrelated and from back in February.

This is all just disinformation.

Names noted. Spreadsheet updated. Biden's Ministry of Truth has been notified. You have been warned.

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LOL. "If i didn't find it on the internet in a minute or two, it must not be true"

Wet nurse with the 'my butterfly' pronoun. Outdated tech, but works.

TRADUCTOR said:

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Wet nurse with the 'my butterfly' pronoun. Outdated tech, but works.

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With all these new immigrants I wouldn't be surprised if some tried to earn income as a wet nurse. If this shortage continues there will certainly be a demand for them.

Cartel gonna have a warehouse full of middle aged central American women pumping and sell it to suburban white women. Kind of like in Shameless.

Spotted Ag said:

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How on earth did the human population survive until formula was created?

Yes, some have issues. That's not the norm. It's the exception.

Raising a human requires sacrifice. A sacrifice many don't want to have to deal with these days. Thus the vigorous debate about killing a human before it is born because "muh body muh choice"

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Not long ago you had to have 7 or 8 kids to be lucky enough to have a couple make it to adulthood.

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TRADUCTOR said:

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Wet nurse with the 'my butterfly' pronoun. Outdated tech, but works.

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With all these new immigrants I wouldn't be surprised if some tried to earn income as a wet nurse. If this shortage continues there will certainly be a demand for them.

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Always look on the bright side of life...lol, demand for immigrants facing unchecked supply.

AgsMyDude said:

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Spotted Ag said:

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How on earth did the human population survive until formula was created?

Yes, some have issues. That's not the norm. It's the exception.

Raising a human requires sacrifice. A sacrifice many don't want to have to deal with these days. Thus the vigorous debate about killing a human before it is born because "muh body muh choice"

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Not long ago you had to have 7 or 8 kids to be lucky enough to have a couple make it to adulthood.

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That's a pretty good stretch there ...at least in the Rattler family history going back 200 years plus......7 or 8 to raise 2 to adulthood ? Maybe we were/are an exceptional group of survivors

AgsMyDude said:

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Spotted Ag said:

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How on earth did the human population survive until formula was created?

Yes, some have issues. That's not the norm. It's the exception.

Raising a human requires sacrifice. A sacrifice many don't want to have to deal with these days. Thus the vigorous debate about killing a human before it is born because "muh body muh choice"

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Not long ago you had to have 7 or 8 kids to be lucky enough to have a couple make it to adulthood.

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I am unsure of those statistics, but yes many people died as young children.

I recently went to New Orleans to see some family history and found the family mausoleum. It is the final resting place of my great-great-great-greatgrandfather and most of his eleven children. The children were born in the 1830s and 1840s. Of the eleven, five had died by the age of three.

I think this was a fairly well-to-do family, too. I believe living in New Orleans at the time was very rough, even rougher than now, due to frequent outbreaks of malaria.

Rattler12 said:

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AgsMyDude said:

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Spotted Ag said:

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How on earth did the human population survive until formula was created?

Yes, some have issues. That's not the norm. It's the exception.

Raising a human requires sacrifice. A sacrifice many don't want to have to deal with these days. Thus the vigorous debate about killing a human before it is born because "muh body muh choice"

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Not long ago you had to have 7 or 8 kids to be lucky enough to have a couple make it to adulthood.

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That's a pretty good stretch there ...at least in the Rattler family history going back 200 years plus......7 or 8 to raise 2 to adulthood ? Maybe we were/are an exceptional group of survivors

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https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041693/united-states-all-time-child-mortality-rate/#:~:text=The%20child%20mortality%20rate%20in,it%20to%20their%20fifth%20birthday

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The child mortality rate in the United States, for children under the age of five, was 462.9 deaths per thousand births in 1800. This means that for every thousand babies born in 1800, over 46 percent did not make it to their fifth birthday

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8 kids and 4 are dead before they even reach 5 years old.

I didn't look for the odds after but those other 4 aren't all reaching adulthood.

This is a pretty rude thread, with some shaming new mothers. Luckily for my wife and I, we had our first baby 6 weeks ago and besides supplementing with formula for the first week while waiting for her milk supply to catch up we have been able to breastfeed and build up a decent reserve through pumping. Not everyone is that lucky.

One of our good friends had a baby a few months before us and his wife struggled with breastfeeding so their pediatrician recommended they switch over to formula. They have had some issues finding formula, but not sure it's been too dire yet. We have another friend that's feeding formula, not sure of the reasoning/necessity, but she reached out to friends and family asking them if they could locate the formula she needed at HEBs because she was running out and couldn't find any.

I can't imagine the stress that would put on a parent to feel so helpless for your child. My wife got upset the other night just because she didn't pump as much during one sitting as usual and was wondering why. It takes a mental toll on women and their husbands/significant others.

MuchosPollos said:

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If we can outsource our driving to Uber, our shopping to Kroger,Amazon,Wal-Mart, our dating to Tinder/Match/Bumble.......I am sure someone can develop an app to secure wet-nurses.

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I think a lot of parents would have a problem with their baby sucking on some stranger's teet.

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Make Great Nurses Wet Again!

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fify

Love me some threads with a bunch of guys harping on women regarding women things.

Third world banana republic, we've got you in our sites!

I kind of wondered if this was coming, because it has happened with so many products.

Hell, our puppy has had 3 different food brands over the past 6 months, because I can't seem to find the same product available when it is time to buy again.

Sid Farkas said:

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I don't get this whole thread. I just searched the NYT database and the most recent article about "baby formula" is unrelated and from back in February.

This is all just disinformation.

Names noted. Spreadsheet updated. Biden's Ministry of Truth has been notified. You have been warned.

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NBC News: 40 percent of America's baby formula supplies are out of stock.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/baby-formula-shortage-recall-low-inventory-rcna27937

ABATTBQ11 said:

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Sid Farkas said:

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I don't get this whole thread. I just searched the NYT database and the most recent article about "baby formula" is unrelated and from back in February.

This is all just disinformation.

Names noted. Spreadsheet updated. Biden's Ministry of Truth has been notified. You have been warned.

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NBC News: 40 percent of America's baby formula supplies are out of stock.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/baby-formula-shortage-recall-low-inventory-rcna27937

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More workers to be hired at the Ministry of Truth and Disinformation tomorrow!

Our family is looking for Enfamil Enspire. Maybe we'll score one of those famous TexAgs hookups?????

Seriously though, this is not a laughing matter for young families. When did the USA become a third-world nation? None to be found in our neck of the woods in D/FW.

Ukraine first
Illegal aliens 1B
America last

Shot. Chaser. pic.twitter.com/JxuWrFUlAj

— James Lindsay, has the best concepts (@ConceptualJames) May 12, 2022

The first photo is from this morning at the Ursula Processing Center at the U.S. border. Shelves and pallets packed with baby formula.

The second is from a shelf right here at home. Formula is scarce.

This is what America last looks like. pic.twitter.com/OO0V99njoy

— Kat Cammack (@Kat_Cammack) May 11, 2022

txaggie_08 said:

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This is a pretty rude thread, with some shaming new mothers. Luckily for my wife and I, we had our first baby 6 weeks ago and besides supplementing with formula for the first week while waiting for her milk supply to catch up we have been able to breastfeed and build up a decent reserve through pumping. Not everyone is that lucky.

One of our good friends had a baby a few months before us and his wife struggled with breastfeeding so their pediatrician recommended they switch over to formula. They have had some issues finding formula, but not sure it's been too dire yet. We have another friend that's feeding formula, not sure of the reasoning/necessity, but she reached out to friends and family asking them if they could locate the formula she needed at HEBs because she was running out and couldn't find any.

I can't imagine the stress that would put on a parent to feel so helpless for your child. My wife got upset the other night just because she didn't pump as much during one sitting as usual and was wondering why. It takes a mental toll on women and their husbands/significant others.

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No one is shaming new mothers.

See the post below yours, they seem to have plenty there. It's almost like they're trying to start an actual insurrection.

TxAgLaw03RW said:

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See the post below yours, they seem to have plenty there. It's almost like they're trying to start an actual insurrection.

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There's a few cases between boxes of gogurt. It's not like they're bursting at them seams.

If we do not have enough formula in the US, the women with babies should be sent back to Mexico so that the babies can eat.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/illegal-migrants-first-to-get-pallets-of-hard-to-find-baby-formula

ABATTBQ11 said:

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TxAgLaw03RW said:

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See the post below yours, they seem to have plenty there. It's almost like they're trying to start an actual insurrection.

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There's a few cases between boxes of gogurt. It's not like they're bursting at them seams.

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That is what I noticed

It is mostly tubes of yogurt and applesauce

I read this article this morning which shed a lot of light on a deeper issue related to this. Seems like something the President could easily fix if he wanted to:

The FDA Was Making It Difficult For Moms To Get Baby Formula Long Before The Supply Chain Imploded

Imagine that - government overreach and over regulation at the center of a shortage between supply and demand

Stop me if you've heard this one before