Roe out, question is who leaked???

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In reply to CrottyKid • 7:59a, 5/3/22
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OKCAg2002 said:
Killing babies out of convenience is not a "remedy."

How about abstinence and taking personal responsibility for your choices? That's THE remedy.


Abstinence? For responsible adult women? Really?? Even married women utilise early abortion if an unexpected pregnancy happens.
Yes, and they can do so in accordance with the laws of their state.


Agree completely. I support the overturn of Roe ideologically, I just prioritize republican control federally over forcing women to have kids they don't want.

If overturned, I will vote for sensible restrictions in Texas, but not a full ban.
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In reply to GeorgiAg • 8:00a, 5/3/22
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The single greatest moment, politically, in my lifetime. One day, the rest of America will feel the same way. When that day comes, we will have a recognizable country again.


An explosion of fatherless kids to poor uneducated women? What country do you come from? Nigeria?

Because the wealthy & middle class are gonna go to Colorado, abort their kid and smoke some weed.


This is incredibly racist.

I don't think it's racism-- I think it's statistics.

Look, abortion isn't for me, but you do realize that if there were 60 million more kids of single parents in this country (the number of abortions) the majority of them would be voting Democrat. So long to thevRepublican party, at that point.


Exactly. People have thread after thread making fun of inner city crime and are too dumb to add 2+2. These laws shut down the clinics and force poor and stupid women to have babies. The wealthy and middle class will travel out of state.

The law of unintended consequences. Red State cities are going to be criminal hell holes in 15 years.

You supposedly want Republicans to win so badly that you are willing to allow for millions of unborn children to be killed in the womb.

Yet you voted for Joe Freaking Biden.


How do you square that?


I disliked Trump. I was wrong. Biden is terrible. I'm voting for Kemp for governor.

I'm not the only one who's made this connection. I first read about it in Freakonomics. Abortion is bad but this is worth mentioning. All you holier than thou types are still gonna ***** when your taxes go up and you get mugged. So give me a break.

https://journalistsresource.org/economics/abortion-crime-research-donohue-levitt/
It doesn;t make anyone "holier than thou" to want to protect innocent human life.

I am just pointning out that you are/were more turned off by mean tweets than you are vaccuuming a child out of it's mothers womb. You need to own the insanity of that position.


He was really annoying. I never participated in any abortion so I don't really care. I don't think a fetus is a "baby" and people should decide in their own. You do and want to legislate that other people follow your view.

Remember that when someone wants to legislate that scary black guns are "weapons of war."
The level of spin and what-about-ism here is off the charts. Actual verifiable HUMAN LIFE is not a child/life. And protecting the most innocent and vulnerable is somehow related to clearly defined unconstitutional laws. UNBELIEVABLE. It is insane.
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8:00a, 5/3/22



I really don't think this will do what the dems think it will concerning voters
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8:01a, 5/3/22
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8:01a, 5/3/22
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I don't think a fetus is a "baby"
Will that "fetus" develop into a "baby"? Once you answer that question, you will then understand why this issue is so horrible.
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In reply to GeorgiAg • 8:02a, 5/3/22
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GeorgiAg said:
CoachO_08 said:
GeorgiAg said:
CoachO_08 said:
GeorgiAg said:
Clob94 said:
Bird Poo said:
GeorgiAg said:
AggieDub25 said:
The single greatest moment, politically, in my lifetime. One day, the rest of America will feel the same way. When that day comes, we will have a recognizable country again.


An explosion of fatherless kids to poor uneducated women? What country do you come from? Nigeria?

Because the wealthy & middle class are gonna go to Colorado, abort their kid and smoke some weed.


This is incredibly racist.

I don't think it's racism-- I think it's statistics.

Look, abortion isn't for me, but you do realize that if there were 60 million more kids of single parents in this country (the number of abortions) the majority of them would be voting Democrat. So long to thevRepublican party, at that point.


Exactly. People have thread after thread making fun of inner city crime and are too dumb to add 2+2. These laws shut down the clinics and force poor and stupid women to have babies. The wealthy and middle class will travel out of state.

The law of unintended consequences. Red State cities are going to be criminal hell holes in 15 years.

You supposedly want Republicans to win so badly that you are willing to allow for millions of unborn children to be killed in the womb.

Yet you voted for Joe Freaking Biden.


How do you square that?


I disliked Trump. I was wrong. Biden is terrible. I'm voting for Kemp for governor.

I'm not the only one who's made this connection. I first read about it in Freakonomics. Abortion is bad but this is worth mentioning. All you holier than thou types are still gonna ***** when your taxes go up and you get mugged. So give me a break.

https://journalistsresource.org/economics/abortion-crime-research-donohue-levitt/
It doesn;t make anyone "holier than thou" to want to protect innocent human life.

I am just pointning out that you are/were more turned off by mean tweets than you are vaccuuming a child out of it's mothers womb. You need to own the insanity of that position.


He was really annoying. I never participated in any abortion so I don't really care. I don't think a fetus is a "baby" and people should decide in their own. You do and want to legislate that other people follow your view.

Remember that when someone wants to legislate that scary black guns are "weapons of war."


You remember taking con law right? Do you remember the day y'all talked about the second amendment and how it didn't apply to "weapons of war?" You don't because the second amendment doesn't say "except for weapons of war." Instead it says "shall not be infringed."
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8:03a, 5/3/22
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Once there is a heartbeat, it's a life...period
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In reply to GeorgiAg • 8:04a, 5/3/22
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GeorgiAg said:
CoachO_08 said:
GeorgiAg said:
Clob94 said:
Bird Poo said:
GeorgiAg said:
AggieDub25 said:
The single greatest moment, politically, in my lifetime. One day, the rest of America will feel the same way. When that day comes, we will have a recognizable country again.


An explosion of fatherless kids to poor uneducated women? What country do you come from? Nigeria?

Because the wealthy & middle class are gonna go to Colorado, abort their kid and smoke some weed.


This is incredibly racist.

I don't think it's racism-- I think it's statistics.

Look, abortion isn't for me, but you do realize that if there were 60 million more kids of single parents in this country (the number of abortions) the majority of them would be voting Democrat. So long to thevRepublican party, at that point.


Exactly. People have thread after thread making fun of inner city crime and are too dumb to add 2+2. These laws shut down the clinics and force poor and stupid women to have babies. The wealthy and middle class will travel out of state.

The law of unintended consequences. Red State cities are going to be criminal hell holes in 15 years.

You supposedly want Republicans to win so badly that you are willing to allow for millions of unborn children to be killed in the womb.

Yet you voted for Joe Freaking Biden.


How do you square that?


I disliked Trump. I was wrong. Biden is terrible. I'm voting for Kemp for governor.

I'm not the only one who's made this connection. I first read about it in Freakonomics. Abortion is bad but this is worth mentioning. All you holier than thou types are still gonna ***** when your taxes go up and you get mugged. So give me a break.

https://journalistsresource.org/economics/abortion-crime-research-donohue-levitt/
The crime rate is skyrocketing thanks to Democrats, whom you again support. You already predicted an uptick for Stacey Abrams, and we all know you are very likely a donor to her, so let us know her latest email newsletter.

Further, the old eugenicists (margaret sanger) perspective that abortion reduces crime (and bad population groups, like blacks) is false. It's not a new argument at all, it's just bs. The causality, and even statistical correlation is...terrible.

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Throughout the Twentieth Century, eugenicists promoted abortion and birth control, claiming that if the "lower classes" would only have fewer children, crime would also decline. This was one of the primary themes of Margaret Sanger's Birth Control Review, in which Montgomery Mulford wrote that "I am of the belief that the acceptance of birth control by society, and its frank teaching, can help diminish criminal activity!"1

This theme still resonates strongly with many people today. The best-known study of the abortion-crime connection was performed by John J. Donohue III and Steven D. Levitt in 2001. In Harvard University's Quarterly Journal of Economics, they concluded that "Legalized abortion contributed significantly to recent crime reductions. … Legalized abortion appears to account for as much as 50 percent of the recent drop in crime." The authors noted, "Crime began to fall roughly 18 years after abortion legalization," and that the social benefit of this decrease in crime is about $30 billion annually.
The Donohue and Levitt data is based on crime rates before (circa 2005) Obama-Biden-Dems facilitated a boom in violent crime, btw, but more to the point it is just terrible analyses/statistical manipulation;

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Donohue and Levitt are certainly correct when they say that violent and property crimes are down by astonishing numbers since 1991. The rate of murder has decreased 49 percent; forcible rapes have plunged 32 percent; robberies by 50 percent; aggravated assault by 39 percent; and property crimes by 41 percent.5 Additionally, states with very high abortion rates in the 1970s and 1980s also had correspondingly dramatic crime reductions in the 1990s.6

While Donohue and Levitt were doing their research, however, other scientists were arriving at opposite results.

Law professors John R. Lott, Jr. of Yale Law School and John E. Whitley of the University of Adelaide found that legalizing abortion increased murder rates by up to seven percent. They concluded that legalizing abortion is a contributing factor to the great increase in outofwedlock births and single parent families, which in turn contribute to increased crime rates. Since 1970, the percentage of singleparent households in the United States has nearly tripled, from 11 percent to 32 percent, and the percentage of outofwedlock births has nearly quadrupled, from 11 percent to 43 percent of all children.7 Children born out-of-wedlock and raised by only one parent have a significantly higher incidence of crime.

There are many other fundamental problems with the conclusion that legalized abortion leads to a decrease in crime.

Statistician David Murray confirmed that young males between the ages of 17 and 25 commit the majority of crimes. However, if abortion had reduced crime, the crime rates in the United States would have dropped first among young people. They did not. Instead, the number of crimes committed by older people dropped first. Nearly 60% of the decline in murder since 1990 involved killers aged 25 and older who were born before Roe v. Wade.8

Murray also found that other nations with high abortion rates showed a large increase in crime about eighteen years after they legalized abortion. For example, in Great Britain, which legalized abortion in 1968, violent crime has been rising steeply since about 1985 exactly when it should have been declining, according to the DonohueLevitt thesis. Additionally, Russia, with the highest abortion rate on earth, has experienced a tidal wave of every kind of violent crime following the breakup of the Soviet Union.9

FBI statistics showed that the murder rate in 1993 for 14 to 17yearolds in the USA (born in the years 19751979, which had very high abortion rates) was 3.6 times higher than that of kids who were the same age in 1984 (who were born in the prelegalization years of 19661970). Additionally, since Black women were having abortions at a much higher rate than White women, we should have expected the murder rate among Black youth to have declined beginning in about 1991. Instead, it increased more than five hundred percent from 1984 to 1993.10

Finally, the huge increase in violent crime that peaked in 1991 and then began to decline is more closely related to the crack epidemic, not abortion. The DonohueLevitt study confirms that the crime rate rose and fell exactly where crack cocaine was most easily available in the large cities and among young Black males.11 This is also confirmed by the rise in crime during the time period 1984 to 1991, after a decline from 1980 to 1984. If abortion were the primary cause of a decline in violent crime, the crime rate would have been relatively stable during the time period 1980 to 1991.
Our taxes are going up thanks to Biden, and violent crime is surging thanks to Democrats in big cities as well, not the legalization of abortion.
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8:06a, 5/3/22
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Do any of you leftists realize that the decision doesn't ban abortion?
This whole discussion about whether it's good or bad to make abortion illegal is not what is at stake here.

This is about federal government overreach. The federal government is not given the power to legislate abortion rights. Thus, it must be decided at the state level.



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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

OH NO EVEN MARRIED WOMEN GET PREGNANT WHEN THEY DON'T WANT TO! WHAT WILL THEY EVER DO?

I am convinced that the vast majority of states will allow abortion under circumstances such as threat to the mother's health, certainty of birth defects, rape, incest, etc. Additionally, most states will still allow the abortion of an unwanted pregnancy with in the early part of the pregnancy term. Some states, like California, will likely expand abortion accessibility to extents we have never seen before.

Wanting it to be legal everywhere at any time is just not the way our nation is supposed to work. Stop acting like women are going to die because they can't get a late term abortion in every state.
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In reply to Rockdoc • 8:07a, 5/3/22
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Just keep in mind, this is not ending abortion and everybody knows it.

It is a start. Thank you Lord.
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In reply to FriskyGardenGnome • 8:08a, 5/3/22
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Definitely Not A Cop said:
CM Trump Voter said:
CrottyKid said:
I just don't get it.

If you don't want a baby or if you can't afford a baby, DON'T HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX.

It's so simple.

The left's whole agenda is to alleviate personal responsibility.


Wait. You don't understand that people can still get pregnant through safe sex? Or that teenagers (you know, people that eat Tide pods) might not practice safe sex?

Maybe one day, we can all be as keen as this poster.


So why don't we just sterilize stupid people?
A problem with statements like this is someday, someone might decide you are the stupid one.

If government has demonstrated anything, it's the ability to abuse power.


Purely meant to be tongue in cheek. The point is that if your argument is that we need to kill babies to stop the lower classes from growing and committing more crime, then that's a pretty racist or classist argument imo.

But if you do believe that, then why not sterilize all the people you are afraid of in the first place? It's logically consistent, and would do an even better job about stopping the lower class from growing.
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8:08a, 5/3/22
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This whole ordeal is just another stunt by the democrats right down to the timing. This shouldn't surprise anybody as it is what the dems have become.
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In reply to Texaggie7nine • 8:09a, 5/3/22
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Texaggie7nine said:
CrottyKid said:
Texaggie7nine said:
OKCAg2002 said:
Killing babies out of convenience is not a "remedy."

How about abstinence and taking personal responsibility for your choices? That's THE remedy.


Abstinence? For responsible adult women? Really?? Even married women utilise early abortion if an unexpected pregnancy happens.
Yes, and they can do so in accordance with the laws of their state.


Agree completely. I support the overturn of Roe ideologically, I just prioritize republican control federally over forcing women to have kids they don't want.

If overturned, I will vote for sensible restrictions in Texas, but not a full ban.
And that's exactly how this should work.

If more people in Texas want a full ban, then a full ban it is. If it is important enough to you for you to move to another state, then move to another state.
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In reply to Texaggie7nine • 8:10a, 5/3/22
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Texaggie7nine said:
CrottyKid said:
Texaggie7nine said:
OKCAg2002 said:
Killing babies out of convenience is not a "remedy."

How about abstinence and taking personal responsibility for your choices? That's THE remedy.


Abstinence? For responsible adult women? Really?? Even married women utilise early abortion if an unexpected pregnancy happens.
Yes, and they can do so in accordance with the laws of their state.


Agree completely. I support the overturn of Roe ideologically, I just prioritize republican control federally over forcing women to have kids they don't want.

If overturned, I will vote for sensible restrictions in Texas, but not a full ban.
can you elaborate on "sensible" restrictions on killing babies? Would love to know what your line is.
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8:12a, 5/3/22
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Someone is going to have to help me pick..

Become my airline pilot or

Too dumb to use a condom.

I can't figure out if libs are saying poc deserve the CRT DEI effort or can't make simple executive functioning decisions.
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In reply to CrottyKid • 8:13a, 5/3/22
CrottyKid said:
Texaggie7nine said:
CrottyKid said:
Texaggie7nine said:
OKCAg2002 said:
Killing babies out of convenience is not a "remedy."

How about abstinence and taking personal responsibility for your choices? That's THE remedy.


Abstinence? For responsible adult women? Really?? Even married women utilise early abortion if an unexpected pregnancy happens.
Yes, and they can do so in accordance with the laws of their state.


Agree completely. I support the overturn of Roe ideologically, I just prioritize republican control federally over forcing women to have kids they don't want.

If overturned, I will vote for sensible restrictions in Texas, but not a full ban.
And that's exactly how this should work.

If more people in Texas want a full ban, then a full ban it is. If it is important enough to you for you to move to another state, then move to another state.


Democrats legislate for their dumbest constituents. These people are not traveling for an abortion. That's why the left is going to light to place on fire.
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8:13a, 5/3/22
The ministry of truth and media will tell us someone got hacked, and the leaker is actually a victim of cyber crime. The left is so predictable. I wish Vegas would open up a politics book to place wagers.
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8:14a, 5/3/22
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The morally bankrupt on F16 are on full display today. Evaluate all of their posts accordingly.
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In reply to BlueTaze • 8:14a, 5/3/22
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The ministry of truth and media will tell us someone got hacked, and the leaker is actually a victim of cyber crime. The left is so predictable. I wish Vegas would open up a politics book to place wagers.


Already exists.

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In reply to A is A • 8:17a, 5/3/22
A is A said:
Texaggie7nine said:
CrottyKid said:
Texaggie7nine said:
OKCAg2002 said:
Killing babies out of convenience is not a "remedy."

How about abstinence and taking personal responsibility for your choices? That's THE remedy.


Abstinence? For responsible adult women? Really?? Even married women utilise early abortion if an unexpected pregnancy happens.
Yes, and they can do so in accordance with the laws of their state.


Agree completely. I support the overturn of Roe ideologically, I just prioritize republican control federally over forcing women to have kids they don't want.

If overturned, I will vote for sensible restrictions in Texas, but not a full ban.
can you elaborate on "sensible" restrictions on killing babies? Would love to know what your line is.


Anything from a heartbeat to 14weeks or even 20weeks with strict exceptions for health reasons.
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In reply to redcrayon • 8:17a, 5/3/22
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redcrayon said:
The morally bankrupt on F16 are on full display today. Evaluate all of their posts accordingly.

The same people that dont want Trump to run because he is an ******* are the same people crying about what retracting RvW will do to the GOP.

It is kind of entertaining to see the venn diagram. These people are absolutely chest-less.
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In reply to Nitro Power • 8:18a, 5/3/22
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Nitro Power said:
Once there is a heartbeat, it's a life...period


id go further to say once there is a cell its a life.
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8:18a, 5/3/22
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Is my body my choice a reasonable stance again or is it still taboo?
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In reply to Texaggie7nine • 8:19a, 5/3/22
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14 months???
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In reply to Nitro Power • 8:19a, 5/3/22
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14 months???


Gotta be a typo. Right?
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In reply to BlueTaze • 8:21a, 5/3/22
BlueTaze said:
The ministry of truth and media will tell us someone got hacked, and the leaker is actually a victim of cyber crime. The left is so predictable. I wish Vegas would open up a politics book to place wagers.


Or leaker is a whistle blower. Sorta like when treasonous action became whistle blower.
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8:25a, 5/3/22
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This excerpt from Yahoo News sums up the whole problem and the fallacy of the pro-abortion argument:

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women across the country may find they have lost the right choose how or when they are pregnant.

It's not how and when you get pregnant, it's how and when you get un-pregnant.
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In reply to Emotional Support Cobra • 8:26a, 5/3/22
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The goal should be, with the removal of abortions, to teach women and improve services. Like a previous poster said, we have the internet, we have 8 years of sex ed, how freaking hard is it to keep your legs closed in high school?

If more women of color get abortions, target these populations with more interventions.

Once you are an adult, everyone knows how this works. Make the effort. take responsibility for your actions.
I'm not trying to sound like an ass when I say this-- but "intervention" sounds like what liberals want to send to crime scenes rather than police. You can't intervene everytime teenagers want to get their freak on. Doesn't work that way.
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In reply to Nitro Power • 8:27a, 5/3/22
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14 months???
weeks
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In reply to TRADUCTOR • 8:32a, 5/3/22
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TRADUCTOR said:
Just in time for some chaos before elections.
Here will be the deal!
The Court is NOT ruling out a LAW that permits abortion - the democrats are NOW forced to create a law that specifically says that they want to kill babies
whether or not a candidate is even electable may hinge on how artfully they can craft their stance on murder
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8:34a, 5/3/22
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8:37a, 5/3/22
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How am I supposed to get any work done with the liberal tears pouring out like a damn fire hose Today
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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In reply to Decay • 8:37a, 5/3/22
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Decay said:
Democrats gonna be pissed they can't kill babies


The crazy thing is, they still can! Blue states will continue to codify abortion until birth and defend it like the sacred text of the gods.

They're melting down b/c red states can make their own laws again...you know, like it says in the constitution
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