It's about time somebody made a way to put those things out quickly.
Trump will fix it.
hph6203 said:
Just glad we figured out how to solve the energy problem of providing a married couple 770 kWh of energy a month to run their cars. The future of EVs has been saved! Cancel fusion research, it's a waste, we already have unlimited energy!
nortex97 said:You probably should look up how the chemistry works and what the catalysts etc. are while/once burning. Thermal runaway means it becomes self sustaining so even if oxygen is deprived it is able to use the oxygen from the reactions to keep going. That's precisely why throwing water on it only keeps it cool, instead of extinguishing it.GAC06 said:
I heard they create their own oxygen so statistics and numbers don't matter at all
PlaneCrashGuy said:hph6203 said:
Just glad we figured out how to solve the energy problem of providing a married couple 770 kWh of energy a month to run their cars. The future of EVs has been saved! Cancel fusion research, it's a waste, we already have unlimited energy!
Another swing and a miss. Damage in dollars does not mean energy output.
Wha do you think is the maximum amount of damage in dollars 1 EV fire can do? I bet I can raise your answer.
I'm old enough to remember when you swore up and down 1EV fire could never burn down the owners house + both his neighbors (3x multiplier) but then we saw the Korea fire a week later (almost 300 houses, 1 EV)
PlaneCrashGuy said:
It wouldn't change the calculus.
GAC06 said:PlaneCrashGuy said:
It wouldn't change the calculus.
The guy that can't solve a = b x c
PlaneCrashGuy said:
It wouldn't change the calculus.
Good for them. Insane market interferences.Quote:
Shrinking government incentives for EV buyers
Currently, consumers in Canada can take advantage of significant savings when buying electric vehicles, with rebates totaling up to C$12,000 (about $8,500). These subsidies include a federal rebate of up to C$5,000, while Quebec and British Columbia offer additional incentives of up to C$7,000 and C$4,000, respectively.
These rebates have driven EV adoption in Canada, particularly in provinces with higher incentives, such as Quebec and British Columbia, which have seen substantially higher market shares for EVs than Ontario, where rebates were canceled in 2018.
But this support is fading. Quebec recently announced that its subsidy would be phased out entirely by 2027. In British Columbia, rebates were limited to a narrower group of EV buyers this June, as government officials pointed to "available funding" concerns and higher-than-expected EV sales growth. These rollbacks reflect a broader trend, with provincial governments reassessing the financial viability of taxpayer-funded EV incentives amid growing budget deficits.
Canada's aggressive targets for EV sales
Canada's subsidy reduction comes as the government sets ambitious targets to reduce emissions by replacing gas-powered cars with EVs. By 2035, all new light-duty vehicles sold in Canada must be fully electric or plug-in hybrids.
To reach this goal, interim milestones require 20% of new sales to be EVs by 2026 and 60% by 2030. This escalating timeline has intensified pressure on automakers, who must now navigate both declining incentives and mounting expectations.
Removing the incentives and upping the mandates.nortex97 said:
Canada to gut EV subsidies:Good for them. Insane market interferences.Quote:
Shrinking government incentives for EV buyers
Currently, consumers in Canada can take advantage of significant savings when buying electric vehicles, with rebates totaling up to C$12,000 (about $8,500). These subsidies include a federal rebate of up to C$5,000, while Quebec and British Columbia offer additional incentives of up to C$7,000 and C$4,000, respectively.
These rebates have driven EV adoption in Canada, particularly in provinces with higher incentives, such as Quebec and British Columbia, which have seen substantially higher market shares for EVs than Ontario, where rebates were canceled in 2018.
But this support is fading. Quebec recently announced that its subsidy would be phased out entirely by 2027. In British Columbia, rebates were limited to a narrower group of EV buyers this June, as government officials pointed to "available funding" concerns and higher-than-expected EV sales growth. These rollbacks reflect a broader trend, with provincial governments reassessing the financial viability of taxpayer-funded EV incentives amid growing budget deficits.
Canada's aggressive targets for EV sales
Canada's subsidy reduction comes as the government sets ambitious targets to reduce emissions by replacing gas-powered cars with EVs. By 2035, all new light-duty vehicles sold in Canada must be fully electric or plug-in hybrids.
To reach this goal, interim milestones require 20% of new sales to be EVs by 2026 and 60% by 2030. This escalating timeline has intensified pressure on automakers, who must now navigate both declining incentives and mounting expectations.
Stop wasting your time arguing. He and Other Anti EV-ers will use whatever fits their ICE/Gas narrative. Its like people saying Plane crashes are dangerous because almost everyone who crashes dies vs a car. But they can't see the flaw in logic that Planes are the safest form of transportation.hph6203 said:
It is exactly a risk per unit of vehicles. You say it isn't, because you desperately want your years long crusade trying to engender a fear of EV fires to remain relevant.
If you are so OK with letting the market determine the outcome then we should just let the Chinese cars come over Tariff free? You didn't see to care when the Big 3 gets all of their incentives/bailouts/cheap loans?Ag with kids said:
Removing the incentives and upping the mandates.
Now THAT is a way to tank an industry in your country.
I'm not agreeing with Canada's approach in any way. Just commenting on how dumb it is.Medaggie said:If you are so OK with letting the market determine the outcome then we should just let the Chinese cars come over Tariff free? You didn't see to care when the Big 3 gets all of their incentives/bailouts/cheap loans?Ag with kids said:
Removing the incentives and upping the mandates.
Now THAT is a way to tank an industry in your country.
Medaggie said:
I was in a highway accident and got rear ended by someone going prob 50-60mph when I was at a standstill during rush hour. When I was hit, it felt like it would when a rollercoaster starts with that Jolt. I got out of My car and the back looked it like took a 30mph hit. The other car looked like the whole front was gone. Barely a scratch, no pain afterwards.
Lucky but when you start with a heavier car that is built like a tank; you sometimes make your own luck.bobbranco said:Medaggie said:
I was in a highway accident and got rear ended by someone going prob 50-60mph when I was at a standstill during rush hour. When I was hit, it felt like it would when a rollercoaster starts with that Jolt. I got out of My car and the back looked it like took a 30mph hit. The other car looked like the whole front was gone. Barely a scratch, no pain afterwards.
Lucky.
FWIW, that is by design. Crumple zones save lives.bobbranco said:Medaggie said:
I was in a highway accident and got rear ended by someone going prob 50-60mph when I was at a standstill during rush hour. When I was hit, it felt like it would when a rollercoaster starts with that Jolt. I got out of My car and the back looked it like took a 30mph hit. The other car looked like the whole front was gone. Barely a scratch, no pain afterwards.
Lucky.
Ag with kids said:FWIW, that is by design. Crumple zones save lives.bobbranco said:Medaggie said:
I was in a highway accident and got rear ended by someone going prob 50-60mph when I was at a standstill during rush hour. When I was hit, it felt like it would when a rollercoaster starts with that Jolt. I got out of My car and the back looked it like took a 30mph hit. The other car looked like the whole front was gone. Barely a scratch, no pain afterwards.
Lucky.
I get Crumple zones. Just telling you my MY looked like it was in minor accident and not something at highway speed.Ag with kids said:FWIW, that is by design. Crumple zones save lives.bobbranco said:Medaggie said:
I was in a highway accident and got rear ended by someone going prob 50-60mph when I was at a standstill during rush hour. When I was hit, it felt like it would when a rollercoaster starts with that Jolt. I got out of My car and the back looked it like took a 30mph hit. The other car looked like the whole front was gone. Barely a scratch, no pain afterwards.
Lucky.
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Atul Sharma is a Cybertruck owner from New York, and he says there is a concerted Cybertruck ban across several parking garages in the city.
Atul first noticed this phenomenon when he drove his Cybertruck to Manhattan for work. However, he was surprised to learn that none of the parking garages he tried were willing to let him park his Cybertruck on their property.
Why? Many reasons, but subsidies have been gutted in most of the country:Quote:
EV registrations fell from from 25,353 in Q2 to 18,990 units in Q3, taking battery vehicles' share of the car market down from 8.1 percent to just 6.6 percent, the lowest it's been in two years. The overall car market was down by a far less dramatic 7.6 percent in the same period.
Those EV refuseniks aren't all jumping back into plain-old combustion cars petrol sales didn't fall as badly as EV registrations, but were still down 9.2 percent. Instead, they're increasingly switching their focus from full electric to partially-electric. Sales of hybrids improved by 3.3 percent in Q3 from 46,727 to 48,282 units, but sales of plug-in-hybrids grew by a shocking 56 percent.
Modern PHEVs now offer such long electric ranges that many buyers find they can cover all of their commuting on battery power, and still have the security of a gas tank and combustion engine. But analysts think the main reason for the switch from EVs to hybrids is a financial one.
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Rebates for fully electric cars have been removed everywhere in the country except Western Australia, creating a disincentive for buyers. But PHEVs are still exempt from fringe benefits tax until April 2025, potentially saving drivers thousands of dollars on a lease, the AAA explains.
"There have been significant quarterly fluctuations over the past seven quarters, but sales figures over that period confirm a clear trend of growth for hybrids, while battery electric vehicle market share appears to have peaked for now," the AAA said.