Poll: Large majority of Americans don't want an EV.

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Joe Biden keeps pushing them to try to appeal to the climate alarmists in his base and the press merrily sings along with his talking points, but the sales figures do not lie. People are not coming around to the idea of being forced to switch over to electric vehicles and giving up their internal combustion engine cars and trucks. The widespread pushback against the President's demands becomes clear in the results of the most recent Associated Press/NORC poll on the subject. Biden and his handlers will no doubt be saddened to learn that a plurality said that they are "not too likely" or "not at all likely" to purchase an EV when they next shop for a new vehicle. (Assuming any of them can even afford a new car in this economy.) When you look at the number of people who have already made such a purchase, the figures are even worse.

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Pretty much. More at the link, fair use excerpt only.

nortex97 said:

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Poll: Large majority of Americans don't want an EV.

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Joe Biden keeps pushing them to try to appeal to the climate alarmists in his base and the press merrily sings along with his talking points, but the sales figures do not lie. People are not coming around to the idea of being forced to switch over to electric vehicles and giving up their internal combustion engine cars and trucks. The widespread pushback against the President's demands becomes clear in the results of the most recent Associated Press/NORC poll on the subject. Biden and his handlers will no doubt be saddened to learn that a plurality said that they are "not too likely" or "not at all likely" to purchase an EV when they next shop for a new vehicle. (Assuming any of them can even afford a new car in this economy.) When you look at the number of people who have already made such a purchase, the figures are even worse.

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Pretty much. More at the link, fair use excerpt only.

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That is some amazing LARGE majority at 46%. I was taught a majority was over 50%. I wish they let me know a large majority was less than 50%. You and KJP must have gone to the same high school.

"About 4 in 10 U.S. adults say they would be at least somewhat likely to buy an EV the next time they buy a car, according to the poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research and the Energy Policy Institute at the University of Chicago, while 46% say they are not too likely or not at all likely to purchase one."

I think the point is, per the headline, most aren't gonna do that.

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About 4 in 10 U.S. adults say they would be at least somewhat likely to buy an EV the next time they buy a car, according to the poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research and the Energy Policy Institute at the University of Chicago, while 46% say they are not too likely or not at all likely to purchase one.

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All the data points considered, it sounds like around 7 percent (or maybe 10 or 12, especially outside of California etc.) will continue to be the new vehicle registration rate for BEV's, imho. A niche market, in essence.

Getting to 10-12% EV's would be pretty impressive growth

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I think the point is, per the headline, most aren't gonna do that.

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About 4 in 10 U.S. adults say they would be at least somewhat likely to buy an EV the next time they buy a car, according to the poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research and the Energy Policy Institute at the University of Chicago, while 46% say they are not too likely or not at all likely to purchase one.

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All the data points considered, it sounds like around 7 percent (or maybe 10 or 12, especially outside of California etc.) will continue to be the new vehicle registration rate for BEV's, imho. A niche market, in essence.

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Yet you always like to post things that greatly exaggerate and twist things to try to support your positions and say things like a large majority don't want EVs when your own source says less than 50%. Your sources loose a lot of credibility as a result.

You are welcome to your opinions but when you twist facts to try to fit your preferred narrative you lose credibility. As a reminder, I am on record here as saying in the foreseeable future, EVs won't make up a majority of new car sales and in a 20-40% view in the US.

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nortex97 said:

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I think the point is, per the headline, most aren't gonna do that.

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About 4 in 10 U.S. adults say they would be at least somewhat likely to buy an EV the next time they buy a car, according to the poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research and the Energy Policy Institute at the University of Chicago, while 46% say they are not too likely or not at all likely to purchase one.

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All the data points considered, it sounds like around 7 percent (or maybe 10 or 12, especially outside of California etc.) will continue to be the new vehicle registration rate for BEV's, imho. A niche market, in essence.

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Yet you always like to post things that greatly exaggerate and twist things to try to support your positions and say things like a large majority don't want EVs when your own source says less than 50%. Your sources loose a lot of credibility as a result.

You are welcome to your opinions but when you twist facts to try to fit your preferred narrative you lose credibility. As a reminder, I am on record here as saying in the foreseeable future, EVs won't make up a majority of new car sales and in a 20-40% view in the US.

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We know. EV utopia is just around the corner.

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Weird leap there. No one is saying there aren't drawbacks or risks. In this case, all cars are potentially vulnerable to hacking. Actually the traditional car makers are apparently more vulnerable.

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Maybe, but his complaint about the constant derails is still spot on.

The best example in recent memory was you just now. He said "I'm worried about hacking" and your response was "but do you have a phone or bank or credit card that could be hacked"

The derail here is you arriving and bringing up something from two pages back with nothing relevant to add.

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nortex97 said:

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I think the point is, per the headline, most aren't gonna do that.

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About 4 in 10 U.S. adults say they would be at least somewhat likely to buy an EV the next time they buy a car, according to the poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research and the Energy Policy Institute at the University of Chicago, while 46% say they are not too likely or not at all likely to purchase one.

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All the data points considered, it sounds like around 7 percent (or maybe 10 or 12, especially outside of California etc.) will continue to be the new vehicle registration rate for BEV's, imho. A niche market, in essence.

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Yet you always like to post things that greatly exaggerate and twist things to try to support your positions and say things like a large majority don't want EVs when your own source says less than 50%. Your sources loose a lot of credibility as a result.

You are welcome to your opinions but when you twist facts to try to fit your preferred narrative you lose credibility. As a reminder, I am on record here as saying in the foreseeable future, EVs won't make up a majority of new car sales and in a 20-40% view in the US.

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We know. EV utopia is just around the corner.

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Way to try to deflect when you are called out for a totally misleading comment about a poll. Show me anything in my comment about this so call EV utopia? I clearly stated I don't think they will be a majority but once again deflect rather than admit you twist things (just like the EV utopia comment)

So many unsold Teslas are piling up you can see them from space.

https://jalopnik.com/so-many-unsold-teslas-are-piling-up-that-you-can-see-th-1851526312

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So where exactly are all those thousands of Teslas? They're just sitting in lots. Using imagery from SkyFi, a satellite imagery marketplace, Sherwood was able to discover just where all those Tesla's are being stored.

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Wow. That is an impressive article with no photo from space. I found that collection of Tesla's from space to help prove your point. Talk about a devastating article.

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The reason why is The Hubs has a hard time keeping the lake house golf cart charged, all of his tools charged.

We have multiple 200 amps drops on the ranch. But keeping that many things charged even on a trickle cell does not work forever. They die.

Until battery tech makes a HUGE advancement, EVs are futile.

Now, tell me why I am wrong.

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Did you get enough pats on the back?

You're wrong because every car you will ever get is powered by electricity - it's just a matter of the fuel source that provides it.

If you are saying that a car with an internal combustible engine that requires liquid fuel to be dumped in every few hundred miles is the only car you will ever buy - well that depends on how old (or stubborn) you are.

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The derail here is you arriving and bringing up something from two pages back with nothing relevant to add.

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Calling you out on your bad post is completely relevant.

In a thread about EV's, banking and credit card fraud is actually not relevant. HTH.

Find someone else to follow around and troll

Tesla police truck.

Two Tesla's. Both over 350,000 miles. Original batteries and drivetrains on both.

How many houses have they burned down though?

They have bigger aspirations than mere houses.

Tesla is tackling the cheap car thing by offering really low lease rates.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brookecrothers/2024/06/09/2024-tesla-model-3-killer-lease-competes-with-used-model-3-prices/

Seeing those Tesla cyber trucks are starting to become in common on my travels.

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Seeing those Tesla cyber trucks are starting to become in common on my travels.

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Same here.

It never ceases to amaze me how many people have such horrible taste in things, especially things like that "truck."

Update: I've had my Rivian for a few months and almost 3k miles and I still love it. Of course, I loved all my previous trucks too. They just couldn't quietly launch to 60 mph in 3 seconds like this one. Electricity bill is higher but I haven't bought gas since March.

I guess this is one way to try to hide a Cybertruk

Almost 3500 miles in a Tesla without plugging it in!

lolz. Liberals losing their minds for having to pay a share of road maintenance in Texas. Twitter trolls deliver.

My vehicle registration went from $75 to $275 in the state of Texas bc I own an electric vehicle. What the literal f*ck. “Electric vehicle fee” @GregAbbott_TX $TSLA pic.twitter.com/6foI5DH3Pt

— dmac (@dana_marlane) June 9, 2024

Yup. When it went into effect the local fanboys here insisted it was NBD and only LOLpoors, who wouldn't be buying Teslas anyway, would complain. Obviously that's not the case.

Texas gas taxes are 20 cents/gallon. If you buy 20 gallons/week like I do for my truck, you're contributing $200/year to the state over 50 weeks. This just an effort to get EV owners to contribute.

Teslag in particular insisted on this thread it was a small price to pay and he was all for the tax, IIRC.

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Yup. When it went into effect the local fanboys here insisted it was NBD and only LOLpoors, who wouldn't be buying Teslas anyway, would complain. Obviously that's not the case.

Texas gas taxes are 20 cents/gallon. If you buy 20 gallons/week like I do for my truck, you're contributing $200/year to the state over 50 weeks. This just an effort to get EV owners to contribute.

Teslag in particular insisted on this thread it was a small price to pay and he was all for the tax, IIRC.

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One person complaining doesn't exactly make a trend. Of course people will complain about any government taxes and fees. Are you going to tell me people don't complain about gas taxes all the time?

The point people have repeatedly made on both sides of the issue is this makes up for the loss in gas taxes without going to a big brother move with something like an odometer tax. I may be wrong but I don't think anyone said no one would complain about it btw.

Never change, KK.

There's a difference between a person getting a $200 fee without understanding the justification for it and then being told the justification and understanding.

techno-ag said:

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Never change, KK.

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Again deflect, deflect, deflect when you are called out. Never change.

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techno-ag said:

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Never change, KK.

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Again deflect, deflect, deflect when you are called out. Never change.

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I was calling YOU out, but okay.

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Kansas Kid said:

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Never change, KK.

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Again deflect, deflect, deflect when you are called out. Never change.

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I was calling YOU out, but okay.

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So what did I say that was inaccurate?

I pointed out the inaccuracies in your post about what people have said on this forum.