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GM has halted sales of the Blazer EV because of software issues. They are bricking. So awesome we are moving to vehicles that now require software to even turn on.
https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/chevy-blazer-troubles-add-to-gms-ev-growing-pains-8f7e5c64?st=ojwdwe250j9ygfn&reflink=article_copyURL_share
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GM instructed Chevrolet dealers late last month to stop selling the Blazer, while it sought to address certain software-quality issues that have frustrated buyers and auto reviewers alike. The company hasn't given a time frame for when it might have a fix and continues to build them at its plant in Mexico, a spokesman said.
Think how many times Windows has glitched over the years, crashing and causing system reboots. Now imagine that in your EV. That's what GM is literally dealing with right now.
Modern ICE needs software too. and a lot of sensors. The days of carburetors is long gone.
It's not just EVs that can have a software bug.
Yes, but going all in on all of this stuff with zero contingency planning or backup is idiocy. With EVs, that have even more automation than ICE, we are sprinting towards a scenario with no way out of it when SHTF.
It's pretty simple electronics. It's an electric motor with a speed controller. It's a lot less complex than a combustion engine paired to a transmission.
Apparently not for the Blazer.
Look, I realize ICE vehicles have computers as well. My point is that we just keep going down a path that leaves no room for error and there is zero contingency planning being done. And with EV/green it's as if we are willfully ignoring reality and by god we are just going to do this regardless of capabilities and consequences.
I still don't see why you make it about EVs when as you admit, virtually all cars are being made with similar technology. What do you see in EVs that is different than ICE vehicles when it comes to computer controls because if the computer goes out in the ICE or an EV, they both are giant paper weights?
Because how it's being done is not taking into account what is actually needed to support it. If the market was driving these changes, then more power to it. But it's not....government mandates are. So we are accelerating dependency on technology that has no backup. The entire green movement is one big politically plan with zero thought to practicality.
If are doing the same with ICE then that is dumb as well.
The governments aren't mandating the electronic controls and they are already starting to be rolled back such as in Connecticut. Again, hatred of the mandates which is justified shows up as irrational arguments against EVs in general.
It's not irrational at all. I'm talking about CAFE standards that are forcing us down the EV path, prematurely, and along with that comes all the new and additional software that comes with it. If all the new gadgetry and software is mutually exclusive from being EV then I guess I'll shut up but that's not how it's communicated or portrayed.
I think it depends on what new gadgetry you are taking about. Computer modules to improve fuel economy and performance has been around since before 2000. People like getting quicker acceleration and better fuel economy so they pay less at the pump. Even more advanced fuel management systems are in modern airplanes where there are no cafe standards.
If you are referring to all the new gadgets around driver assists, better entertainment systems, being able to use an app to find your car, remote start it, etc those have nothing to do with CAFE standards. Instead, many people like the modern convenience of a connected car and driver assists for lane following, radar controlled cruise control, etc.
Without a doubt, the EV focused companies like Tesla and Lucid are leaning more into this technology but it is because they started with a blank slate and assume their buyers want new gadgets. The holy grail is fully autonomous vehicles and many companies including non car companies are spending money in this area and there are zero mandates around this. If anyone perfects it, you can be assured it will be quickly adopted into the majority of new ICE and EV cars.
