All this Ukraine Love

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LegalDrugPusher
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Over the last couple weeks I have noticed just in my neighborhood alone here in McKinney several homes have blue and yellow ribbons or even the Ukrainian flag flying in their yard and then there's of course a lot of Ukrainian flags posted on peoples Facebook profiles.

Is this the current trendy thing to do that brings people warm cozy fuzzy feelings?
WestTexasAg
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I guess I don't see the big problem with that. Their country is being invaded.
Waffledynamics
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It's slacktivism and virtue signaling, which is absolutely a problem.
LegalDrugPusher
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And virtually everybody in my neighborhood who has some form of Ukrainian recognition are liberals I wonder why that is?

When this war is over do they take all the stuff down and the Ukraine love is then over?
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WestTexasAg said:

I guess I don't see the big problem with that. Their country is being invaded.


True but there's other nations that are being attacked by other nations maybe not right at this moment but in recent years and we never posted those countries flags in our yard or put their colors around a tree
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Thinking about ordering this off Amazon so I'll be ready to support all possible things at any time.
Pookers
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LegalDrugPusher
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WestTexasAg said:

I guess I don't see the big problem with that. Their country is being invaded.


When we got attacked on 9/11 did Ukrainians put out the American flag in their front yard or red white and blue ribbons around their trees?
depogs
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Idk if it's the trendy thing to do but I do know it's less cringey than your texts to little trumps wife
These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.-Thomas Paine
Pookers
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LegalDrugPusher said:

WestTexasAg said:

I guess I don't see the big problem with that. Their country is being invaded.


When we got attacked on 9/11 did Ukrainians put out the American flag in their front yard or red white and blue ribbons around their trees?
People are putting up Ukraine flags because CNN news man told them we have to support Ukraine. If you don't support Ukraine you are a Putler supporter.
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depogs said:

Idk if it's the trendy thing to do but I do know it's less cringey than your texts to little trumps wife


Does that make you feel better ? What does that have anything to do with Ukraine? I posted some text sure. You just don't like what I have to say about the Ukraine love so that's what you resort to because it makes you feel better and you want to embarrass me
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LegalDrugPusher said:

WestTexasAg said:

I guess I don't see the big problem with that. Their country is being invaded.


When we got attacked on 9/11 did Ukrainians put out the American flag in their front yard or red white and blue ribbons around their trees?


No, but we invoked article 5 after 9/11 and drug European countries into middle eastern sandboxes and got their folks killed for something that had nothing to do with them. Don't remember any Americans taking issue with that move at the time.

Nothing wrong with morally supporting a European country that's fighting to prevent their extermination. Find something else to get your panties in a wad over.
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Rossticus said:

LegalDrugPusher said:

WestTexasAg said:

I guess I don't see the big problem with that. Their country is being invaded.


When we got attacked on 9/11 did Ukrainians put out the American flag in their front yard or red white and blue ribbons around their trees?


No, but we invoked article 5 after 9/11 and drug European countries into middle eastern sandboxes and got their folks killed for something that had nothing to do with them. Don't remember any Americans taking issue with that move at the time.

Nothing wrong with morally supporting a European country that's fighting to prevent their extermination. Find something else to get your panties in a wad over.


I support Ukraine I just don't see the necessity of putting flags out in my yard how is that going to do anything?
Rossticus
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Since you put it that way, I agree. If all you're doing is putting money in some retailer's pocket in order to virtue signal and feel good about yourself then it's pretty lame. If folks want to support then they should use their money in order to do something that actually has an impact.
LegalDrugPusher
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Rossticus said:

Since you put it that way, I agree. If all you're doing is putting money in some retailer's pocket in order to virtue signal and feel good about yourself then it's pretty lame.


And that's all that's being accomplished is retailers making money off of this
Rossticus
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Yep. Misunderstood your angle. We're on the same page.
depogs
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I'm not trying to make you feel embarrassed, I just saw it as some good old fashioned texags ribbing. I apologize if that hurt your feelings. However to get back to the Ukraine topic, it's pretty clear to me that your post was definitely an attempt paint support for Ukraine as another liberal outrage of the week, and I'm sure for some people it is. However due to its proximity to Western Europe there has been a ton of news coverage, and people are able to empathize with Ukrainian citizens.
So no I don't find this weird at all, Americans are a giving people at heart and you see Americans give monetary and verbal support to many countries for other man made or natural disaster.
These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.-Thomas Paine
depogs
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Just saw this post. I guess if you're against just the use of flags as a virtue signal but not doing anything else, I guess you have a point, but I bet if someone is willing to spend money on a flag they are likely to spend money for humanitarian efforts.
These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.-Thomas Paine
torrid
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I'm guessing Ken Paxton said something negative about Zelensky.
FamousAgg
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Deleting Facebook would help
jonb02
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WestTexasAg said:

I guess I don't see the big problem with that. Their country is being invaded.
So then you also support the Azov battalion fighting for Ukraine?
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams

“It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they’ve been fooled” - Mark Twain
Rossticus
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jonb02 said:

WestTexasAg said:

I guess I don't see the big problem with that. Their country is being invaded.
So then you also support the Azov battalion fighting for Ukraine?


The Azov angle has been largely debunked as an issue. Repeatedly. Would you like for me to provide you some info?
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Rossticus said:

jonb02 said:

WestTexasAg said:

I guess I don't see the big problem with that. Their country is being invaded.

So then you also support the Azov battalion fighting for Ukraine?


The Azov angle has been largely debunked as an issue. Would you like for me to provide you some info?
Absolutely show me your propaganda.

"Largely"…lol
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams

“It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they’ve been fooled” - Mark Twain
jonb02
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Pisses me off there is no nuance whatsoever.
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams

“It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they’ve been fooled” - Mark Twain
YouBet
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I may start flying an Ethiopian flag just to be contradictory. And then when someone asks me about it I will tell them it's the civil war thats been ongoing for over a year that has killed an estimated 500k people,

But you've never heard about it and wouldn't care about that because it's just black people dying and you are clearly a white supremacist.
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YouBet said:

I may start flying an Ethiopian flag just to be contradictory. And then when someone asks me about it I will tell them it's the civil war thats been ongoing for over a year that has killed an estimated 500k people,

But you've never heard about it and wouldn't care about that because it's just black people dying and you are clearly a white supremacist.
Bingo. We have a winner!
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams

“It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they’ve been fooled” - Mark Twain
Rossticus
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jonb02 said:

Rossticus said:

jonb02 said:

WestTexasAg said:

I guess I don't see the big problem with that. Their country is being invaded.

So then you also support the Azov battalion fighting for Ukraine?


The Azov angle has been largely debunked as an issue. Would you like for me to provide you some info?
Absolutely show me your propaganda.

"Largely"…lol


No propaganda. Just facts. Azov regiment (not actually a battalion) exists. No, it's not some marker of an influential Nazi presence in Ukraine. Not going to derail this thread like so many others. Clearly you've done minimal research and aren't terribly well informed. Start a thread and I'll deconstruct any point you wish to make on the importance of the existence of Azov.
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Rossticus said:

jonb02 said:

WestTexasAg said:

I guess I don't see the big problem with that. Their country is being invaded.
So then you also support the Azov battalion fighting for Ukraine?


The Azov angle has been largely debunked as an issue. Repeatedly. Would you like for me to provide you some info?
Please debunk this sir or madam.

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams

“It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they’ve been fooled” - Mark Twain
Rossticus
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jonb02 said:

YouBet said:

I may start flying an Ethiopian flag just to be contradictory. And then when someone asks me about it I will tell them it's the civil war thats been ongoing for over a year that has killed an estimated 500k people,

But you've never heard about it and wouldn't care about that because it's just black people dying and you are clearly a white supremacist.
Bingo. We have a winner!


Non sequitur. Civil war is a wholly different issue to a sovereign nation being invaded by an outside entity for the sake of territorial conquest and extermination of its people.
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Rossticus said:

jonb02 said:

YouBet said:

I may start flying an Ethiopian flag just to be contradictory. And then when someone asks me about it I will tell them it's the civil war thats been ongoing for over a year that has killed an estimated 500k people,

But you've never heard about it and wouldn't care about that because it's just black people dying and you are clearly a white supremacist.
Bingo. We have a winner!


Non sequitur. Civil war is a wholly different issue to a sovereign nation being invaded by an outside entity for the sake of territorial conquest and extermination of its people.
Started a new thread as you asked.
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams

“It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they’ve been fooled” - Mark Twain
Rossticus
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jonb02 said:

Rossticus said:

jonb02 said:

WestTexasAg said:

I guess I don't see the big problem with that. Their country is being invaded.
So then you also support the Azov battalion fighting for Ukraine?


The Azov angle has been largely debunked as an issue. Repeatedly. Would you like for me to provide you some info?
Please debunk this sir or madam.




No problem. Not. A. Defining. Element. Of. Ukraine.





https://jewishunpacked.com/the-azov-movement-lets-talk-about-ukraines-nazi-problem/

https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/03/02/what-is-ukraines-azov-battalion/

https://euromaidanpress.com/2016/02/04/azov-regiment-trolls-yet-another-fake-video-threatening-dutch-citizens-prior-to-referendum/

https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/3ab7dw/azov-battalion-ukraine-far-right
jonb02
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Rossticus said:

jonb02 said:

Rossticus said:

jonb02 said:

WestTexasAg said:

I guess I don't see the big problem with that. Their country is being invaded.
So then you also support the Azov battalion fighting for Ukraine?


The Azov angle has been largely debunked as an issue. Repeatedly. Would you like for me to provide you some info?
Please debunk this sir or madam.




No problem. Not. A. Defining. Element. Of. Ukraine.


Just. Like. BLM. Was. Mostly. Peaceful.

Is. That. How. It. Works?
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams

“It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they’ve been fooled” - Mark Twain
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Didn't know there were so many Ivans on this board
Rossticus
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It's ridiculously absurd.
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