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TXAGFAN
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DannyDuberstein said:

Gender dysmorphia and body dysmorphia. We treat one and we play pretend on the other. In both cases, we need to help these people accept and love who they are, not destroy their bodies and minds trying to be something they are not.
I look forward to your medial study on this.

Oh wait, you're a CPA? Nevermind
BrandoC
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Slow day when Bruce Jenner makes TexAgs!!!!
DannyDuberstein
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Yeah, such a terrible thing to want to help someone love and accept who they are. Awful, right? You can keep on with disfigurement and hormones. It's working great, as evidenced by the suicide rates
aggiebird02
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DannyDuberstein said:

Yeah, such a terrible thing to want to help someone love and accept who they are. Awful, right? You can keep on with disfigurement and hormones. It's working great, as evidenced by the suicide rates
Hey, bro! Are you a statistician!?!!

See, you now have to be an expert in a field to be able to speak on a subject. Well, not only be an expert, but also have the correct opinion and outlook. Clown world…
Maroon Dawn
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TXAGFAN said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Gender dysmorphia and body dysmorphia. We treat one and we play pretend on the other. In both cases, we need to help these people accept and love who they are, not destroy their bodies and minds trying to be something they are not.
I look forward to your medial study on this.

Oh wait, you're a CPA? Nevermind


If someone has schizophrenia, we don't tell them "The voices are 100% real and you should listen to them"

If someone has anorexia we don't tell them "if you believe you're fat then you must actually be fat and need to lose even more weight"

But if a teenager wants to permanently mutilate their body because their mind can't accept the reality of their biological sex, leftists say "you're a bigot if you don't let them do it and then pretend that this mutilation has made them into the opposite sex!"
aggiebird02
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TXAGFAN said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Gender dysmorphia and body dysmorphia. We treat one and we play pretend on the other. In both cases, we need to help these people accept and love who they are, not destroy their bodies and minds trying to be something they are not.
I look forward to your medial study on this.

Oh wait, you're a CPA? Nevermind
I know right, TXAGFAN!?!? You have to be a biologist to know what a woman is…

These are your people, TXAGFAN, your buddies…
Kvetch
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aggiephoenix02 said:

TXAGFAN said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Gender dysmorphia and body dysmorphia. We treat one and we play pretend on the other. In both cases, we need to help these people accept and love who they are, not destroy their bodies and minds trying to be something they are not.
I look forward to your medial study on this.

Oh wait, you're a CPA? Nevermind
I know right, TXAGFAN!?!? You have to be a biologist to know what a woman is…

These are your people, TXAGFAN, your buddies…


Ad hominems are all you can resort to when logic is not on your side.
TXAGFAN
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aggiephoenix02 said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Yeah, such a terrible thing to want to help someone love and accept who they are. Awful, right? You can keep on with disfigurement and hormones. It's working great, as evidenced by the suicide rates
Hey, bro! Are you a statistician!?!!

See, you now have to be an expert in a field to be able to speak on a subject. Well, not only be an expert, but also have the correct opinion and outlook. Clown world…
If you want to disagree with the prevailing point of view of the experts in that field, yes.
TXAGFAN
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Kvetch said:

aggiephoenix02 said:

TXAGFAN said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Gender dysmorphia and body dysmorphia. We treat one and we play pretend on the other. In both cases, we need to help these people accept and love who they are, not destroy their bodies and minds trying to be something they are not.
I look forward to your medial study on this.

Oh wait, you're a CPA? Nevermind
I know right, TXAGFAN!?!? You have to be a biologist to know what a woman is…

These are your people, TXAGFAN, your buddies…


Ad hominems are all you can resort to when logic is not on your side.
Or just make **** up that's contrary to any authoritative body or prevailing opinion of experts works here too it seems.
Maroon Dawn
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TXAGFAN said:

aggiephoenix02 said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Yeah, such a terrible thing to want to help someone love and accept who they are. Awful, right? You can keep on with disfigurement and hormones. It's working great, as evidenced by the suicide rates
Hey, bro! Are you a statistician!?!!

See, you now have to be an expert in a field to be able to speak on a subject. Well, not only be an expert, but also have the correct opinion and outlook. Clown world…
If you want to disagree with the prevailing point of view of the experts in that field, yes.


What are the prevailing statistics on suicides in this group after transition
DannyDuberstein
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The "experts" are doing a bang-up job if the end goal is more death by suicide. Perhaps you should start questioning your "experts"
aggiebird02
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Kvetch said:

aggiephoenix02 said:

TXAGFAN said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Gender dysmorphia and body dysmorphia. We treat one and we play pretend on the other. In both cases, we need to help these people accept and love who they are, not destroy their bodies and minds trying to be something they are not.
I look forward to your medial study on this.

Oh wait, you're a CPA? Nevermind
I know right, TXAGFAN!?!? You have to be a biologist to know what a woman is…

These are your people, TXAGFAN, your buddies…


Ad hominems are all you can resort to when logic is not on your side.
I'm no biologist, but I know what a woman is, I'm no statistician, but I can understand the suicide rates in the trans community, I'm not an Olympic gold medalist, but I understand the discrepancy in allowing trans women to compete against women…

What kind of an expert do you have to be to have the correct logic in knowing whether it's right or wrong for biological men to use a women's bathroom with little girls in it? A psychologist maybe? Well, I'm not a psychologist either, but I know that men using bathrooms with little girls is wrong too…
DannyDuberstein
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I'd point out that many of these "experts" stand to profit from surgery and medical treatment. They've created an entire field
Aggies1322
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How weird is it that the mods deleted my post asking why they let TXAGFAN derail threads for no reason but continue to let him derail. Honestly, some of the worst moderating on the internet. I pay for this? Rough.
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The credentials fallacy is a logical fallacy that occurs when someone dismisses an argument by stating that whoever made it doesn't have proper credentials, so their argument must be wrong or unimportant.
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DannyDuberstein
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It apparently takes credentials to be a compassionate human being and simply understand that one of the healthiest things that can happen for a person (any person) is to love and accept who they are
Kvetch
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TXAGFAN said:

Kvetch said:

aggiephoenix02 said:

TXAGFAN said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Gender dysmorphia and body dysmorphia. We treat one and we play pretend on the other. In both cases, we need to help these people accept and love who they are, not destroy their bodies and minds trying to be something they are not.
I look forward to your medial study on this.

Oh wait, you're a CPA? Nevermind
I know right, TXAGFAN!?!? You have to be a biologist to know what a woman is…

These are your people, TXAGFAN, your buddies…


Ad hominems are all you can resort to when logic is not on your side.
Or just make **** up that's contrary to any authoritative body or prevailing opinion of experts works here too it seems.


First, there are plenty of doctors that do not support this ***** Second, if your only support is an appeal to authority, you have no argument.

There are TONS of examples of unethical medical practices that have been employed because "the experts" say it's the right thing to do.
Kvetch
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aggiephoenix02 said:

Kvetch said:

aggiephoenix02 said:

TXAGFAN said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Gender dysmorphia and body dysmorphia. We treat one and we play pretend on the other. In both cases, we need to help these people accept and love who they are, not destroy their bodies and minds trying to be something they are not.
I look forward to your medial study on this.

Oh wait, you're a CPA? Nevermind
I know right, TXAGFAN!?!? You have to be a biologist to know what a woman is…

These are your people, TXAGFAN, your buddies…


Ad hominems are all you can resort to when logic is not on your side.
I'm no biologist, but I know what a woman is, I'm no statistician, but I can understand the suicide rates in the trans community, I'm not an Olympic gold medalist, but I understand the discrepancy in allowing trans women to compete against women…

What kind of an expert do you have to be to have the correct logic in knowing whether it's right or wrong for biological men to use a women's bathroom with little girls in it? A psychologist maybe? Well, I'm not a psychologist either, but I know that men using bathrooms with little girls is wrong too…


Exactly. I was talking about the ad hominem against you.
aggiebird02
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I know, I responded to the wrong post, it was supposed to be for TXAGFAN
TXAGFAN
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Maroon Dawn said:

TXAGFAN said:

aggiephoenix02 said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Yeah, such a terrible thing to want to help someone love and accept who they are. Awful, right? You can keep on with disfigurement and hormones. It's working great, as evidenced by the suicide rates
Hey, bro! Are you a statistician!?!!

See, you now have to be an expert in a field to be able to speak on a subject. Well, not only be an expert, but also have the correct opinion and outlook. Clown world…
If you want to disagree with the prevailing point of view of the experts in that field, yes.


What are the prevailing statistics on suicides in this group after transition
What study are you and a few others here cherry picking on this subject? There's plenty of studies that demonstrate gender affirming treatment reduces risk of suicide. Also, I notice whenever this comes up you all jump even further to the "it's mental illness and should be discouraged" which there are also studies indicating that increases suicide risk.

I'm guessing this one made the rounds on social conservative Twitter as some sort of justification so I'm curious.
aggiebird02
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I'd help you out here, but I'm not a professional fact checker, so you'd just dismiss what I show you anyway.
Kvetch
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TXAGFAN said:

Maroon Dawn said:

TXAGFAN said:

aggiephoenix02 said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Yeah, such a terrible thing to want to help someone love and accept who they are. Awful, right? You can keep on with disfigurement and hormones. It's working great, as evidenced by the suicide rates
Hey, bro! Are you a statistician!?!!

See, you now have to be an expert in a field to be able to speak on a subject. Well, not only be an expert, but also have the correct opinion and outlook. Clown world…
If you want to disagree with the prevailing point of view of the experts in that field, yes.


What are the prevailing statistics on suicides in this group after transition
What study are you and a few others here cherry picking on this subject? There's plenty of studies that demonstrate gender affirming treatment reduces risk of suicide. Also, I notice whenever this comes up you all jump even further to the "it's mental illness and should be discouraged" which there are also studies indicating that increases suicide risk.

I'm guessing this one made the rounds on social conservative Twitter as some sort of justification so I'm curious.


You know, there's lies, damn lies, and statistics. If all you look at is suicide rate amongst treatment groups, you'll see a SLIGHT decrease in suicide rate. However, the treated group still has a suicide rate multiple times higher than the general population (because physical surgeries don't solve mental illness).

Now, consider the historical rate of desistance, the proliferating phenomenon of groups becoming "trans" (primarily teen girls), and the fact that affirmation effectively eliminated any possibility of dysphoria resolution. Not to mention the fact that the "experts" that you like to cite are on record suppressing contrary research (see Brown study).

On top of this, consider the fact that this treatment is morally insane and born out of the perverted work of John Money. No rational human being can come to the conclusion that affirmation of mental disease is an acceptable course of treatment. The junk you shill for because of your political ambitions is evil and disgusting, and you try to back it up with cherry picked statistics and political entities.
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This drive by thread was successful. OP posts 5-day old tweet w/o commentary and never comes back. The usual suspects flock in to steer thread in all sorts of fun directions.
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TXAGFAN
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Kvetch said:

TXAGFAN said:

Maroon Dawn said:

TXAGFAN said:

aggiephoenix02 said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Yeah, such a terrible thing to want to help someone love and accept who they are. Awful, right? You can keep on with disfigurement and hormones. It's working great, as evidenced by the suicide rates
Hey, bro! Are you a statistician!?!!

See, you now have to be an expert in a field to be able to speak on a subject. Well, not only be an expert, but also have the correct opinion and outlook. Clown world…
If you want to disagree with the prevailing point of view of the experts in that field, yes.


What are the prevailing statistics on suicides in this group after transition
What study are you and a few others here cherry picking on this subject? There's plenty of studies that demonstrate gender affirming treatment reduces risk of suicide. Also, I notice whenever this comes up you all jump even further to the "it's mental illness and should be discouraged" which there are also studies indicating that increases suicide risk.

I'm guessing this one made the rounds on social conservative Twitter as some sort of justification so I'm curious.


You know, there's lies, damn lies, and statistics. If all you look at is suicide rate amongst treatment groups, you'll see a SLIGHT decrease in suicide rate. However, the treated group still has a suicide rate multiple times higher than the general population (because physical surgeries don't solve mental illness).

Now, consider the historical rate of desistance, the proliferating phenomenon of groups becoming "trans" (primarily teen girls), and the fact that affirmation effectively eliminated any possibility of dysphoria resolution. Not to mention the fact that the "experts" that you like to cite are on record suppressing contrary research (see Brown study).

On top of this, consider the fact that this treatment is morally insane and born out of the perverted work of John Money. No rational human being can come to the conclusion that affirmation of mental disease is an acceptable course of treatment. The junk you shill for because of your political ambitions is evil and disgusting, and you try to back it up with cherry picked statistics and political entities.
So all those words and no study? Got it.

I'm not cherry picking anything, my stats I reference above are researched and studied multiple times. They form the basis of the mainstream treatment approach for a reason.
Kvetch
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TXAGFAN said:

Kvetch said:

TXAGFAN said:

Maroon Dawn said:

TXAGFAN said:

aggiephoenix02 said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Yeah, such a terrible thing to want to help someone love and accept who they are. Awful, right? You can keep on with disfigurement and hormones. It's working great, as evidenced by the suicide rates
Hey, bro! Are you a statistician!?!!

See, you now have to be an expert in a field to be able to speak on a subject. Well, not only be an expert, but also have the correct opinion and outlook. Clown world…
If you want to disagree with the prevailing point of view of the experts in that field, yes.


What are the prevailing statistics on suicides in this group after transition
What study are you and a few others here cherry picking on this subject? There's plenty of studies that demonstrate gender affirming treatment reduces risk of suicide. Also, I notice whenever this comes up you all jump even further to the "it's mental illness and should be discouraged" which there are also studies indicating that increases suicide risk.

I'm guessing this one made the rounds on social conservative Twitter as some sort of justification so I'm curious.


You know, there's lies, damn lies, and statistics. If all you look at is suicide rate amongst treatment groups, you'll see a SLIGHT decrease in suicide rate. However, the treated group still has a suicide rate multiple times higher than the general population (because physical surgeries don't solve mental illness).

Now, consider the historical rate of desistance, the proliferating phenomenon of groups becoming "trans" (primarily teen girls), and the fact that affirmation effectively eliminated any possibility of dysphoria resolution. Not to mention the fact that the "experts" that you like to cite are on record suppressing contrary research (see Brown study).

On top of this, consider the fact that this treatment is morally insane and born out of the perverted work of John Money. No rational human being can come to the conclusion that affirmation of mental disease is an acceptable course of treatment. The junk you shill for because of your political ambitions is evil and disgusting, and you try to back it up with cherry picked statistics and political entities.
So, no study?

I'm not cherry picking anything, my stats I reference above are well studied multiple times.


Referenced the Brown study about rapid-onset gender dysphoria. I'm not going to pull you 10 studies when I already know you won't read them. Does your study disprove anything I said?

Doubt it.

Let me know when you can respond with a substantive post instead of sending links to your Trevor Project propaganda.
TXAGFAN
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Kvetch said:

TXAGFAN said:

Kvetch said:

TXAGFAN said:

Maroon Dawn said:

TXAGFAN said:

aggiephoenix02 said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Yeah, such a terrible thing to want to help someone love and accept who they are. Awful, right? You can keep on with disfigurement and hormones. It's working great, as evidenced by the suicide rates
Hey, bro! Are you a statistician!?!!

See, you now have to be an expert in a field to be able to speak on a subject. Well, not only be an expert, but also have the correct opinion and outlook. Clown world…
If you want to disagree with the prevailing point of view of the experts in that field, yes.


What are the prevailing statistics on suicides in this group after transition
What study are you and a few others here cherry picking on this subject? There's plenty of studies that demonstrate gender affirming treatment reduces risk of suicide. Also, I notice whenever this comes up you all jump even further to the "it's mental illness and should be discouraged" which there are also studies indicating that increases suicide risk.

I'm guessing this one made the rounds on social conservative Twitter as some sort of justification so I'm curious.


You know, there's lies, damn lies, and statistics. If all you look at is suicide rate amongst treatment groups, you'll see a SLIGHT decrease in suicide rate. However, the treated group still has a suicide rate multiple times higher than the general population (because physical surgeries don't solve mental illness).

Now, consider the historical rate of desistance, the proliferating phenomenon of groups becoming "trans" (primarily teen girls), and the fact that affirmation effectively eliminated any possibility of dysphoria resolution. Not to mention the fact that the "experts" that you like to cite are on record suppressing contrary research (see Brown study).

On top of this, consider the fact that this treatment is morally insane and born out of the perverted work of John Money. No rational human being can come to the conclusion that affirmation of mental disease is an acceptable course of treatment. The junk you shill for because of your political ambitions is evil and disgusting, and you try to back it up with cherry picked statistics and political entities.
So, no study?

I'm not cherry picking anything, my stats I reference above are well studied multiple times.


Referenced the Brown study about rapid-onset gender dysphoria. I'm not going to pull you 10 studies when I already know you won't read them. Does your study disprove anything I said?

Doubt it.

Let me know when you can respond with a substantive post instead of sending links to your Trevor Project propaganda.
They are peer reviewed. You act like it's a web survey.
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Retired FBI Agent said:

This drive by thread was successful. OP posts 5-day old tweet w/o commentary and never comes back. The usual suspects flock in to steer thread in all sorts of fun directions.
Howdy.

I thought it would be common sense. The LGBTQ community has big supporters for Lia Thomas and her accomplishments. But now there is a a prominent member of the LGBTQ community speaking agains't her accomplishments. So now there is a line of division within that community: Do we support Lia or do we use common sense?

Kvetch
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TXAGFAN said:

Kvetch said:

TXAGFAN said:

Kvetch said:

TXAGFAN said:

Maroon Dawn said:

TXAGFAN said:

aggiephoenix02 said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Yeah, such a terrible thing to want to help someone love and accept who they are. Awful, right? You can keep on with disfigurement and hormones. It's working great, as evidenced by the suicide rates
Hey, bro! Are you a statistician!?!!

See, you now have to be an expert in a field to be able to speak on a subject. Well, not only be an expert, but also have the correct opinion and outlook. Clown world…
If you want to disagree with the prevailing point of view of the experts in that field, yes.


What are the prevailing statistics on suicides in this group after transition
What study are you and a few others here cherry picking on this subject? There's plenty of studies that demonstrate gender affirming treatment reduces risk of suicide. Also, I notice whenever this comes up you all jump even further to the "it's mental illness and should be discouraged" which there are also studies indicating that increases suicide risk.

I'm guessing this one made the rounds on social conservative Twitter as some sort of justification so I'm curious.


You know, there's lies, damn lies, and statistics. If all you look at is suicide rate amongst treatment groups, you'll see a SLIGHT decrease in suicide rate. However, the treated group still has a suicide rate multiple times higher than the general population (because physical surgeries don't solve mental illness).

Now, consider the historical rate of desistance, the proliferating phenomenon of groups becoming "trans" (primarily teen girls), and the fact that affirmation effectively eliminated any possibility of dysphoria resolution. Not to mention the fact that the "experts" that you like to cite are on record suppressing contrary research (see Brown study).

On top of this, consider the fact that this treatment is morally insane and born out of the perverted work of John Money. No rational human being can come to the conclusion that affirmation of mental disease is an acceptable course of treatment. The junk you shill for because of your political ambitions is evil and disgusting, and you try to back it up with cherry picked statistics and political entities.
So, no study?

I'm not cherry picking anything, my stats I reference above are well studied multiple times.


Referenced the Brown study about rapid-onset gender dysphoria. I'm not going to pull you 10 studies when I already know you won't read them. Does your study disprove anything I said?

Doubt it.

Let me know when you can respond with a substantive post instead of sending links to your Trevor Project propaganda.
They are peer reviewed. You act like it's a web survey.


Have you seen the **** that makes it through peer review? There have been people that have literally written bogus papers and gotten them peer reviewed to prove what a joke the system is.

You really think your appeal to academia holds any water? Especially on a politically charged issue like this where the vast majority of them are insanely liberal?

What a joke. Like I said, there's lies, damn lies, and statistics. These people set out to measure specific outcomes that will support their agenda and then come to the conclusion they desire. Your papers do nothing to address the broader implications of adopting this treatment or it's moral justification.
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TXAGFAN said:

MarathonAg12 said:


This forum loves a contrarian.


And yet no one likes you which disproves your point.

It's not contrarian to say women should not have to compete against men. It's common sense.
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Maroon Dawn said:

TXAGFAN said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Gender dysmorphia and body dysmorphia. We treat one and we play pretend on the other. In both cases, we need to help these people accept and love who they are, not destroy their bodies and minds trying to be something they are not.
I look forward to your medial study on this.

Oh wait, you're a CPA? Nevermind


If someone has schizophrenia, we don't tell them "The voices are 100% real and you should listen to them"

If someone has anorexia we don't tell them "if you believe you're fat then you must actually be fat and need to lose even more weight"

But if a teenager wants to permanently mutilate their body because their mind can't accept the reality of their biological sex, leftists say "you're a bigot if you don't let them do it and then pretend that this mutilation has made them into the opposite sex!"

Hmmm. First time I've agreed with a Maroon Dawn post without qualification.

I'm sympathetic to the trans community and it seems plausible that gender dysphoria is a real thing without cure. These people deserve to live full lives as the rest of us. That said, I'm extremely uncomfortable letting children make life altering decisions that have permanent medical consequences, as well as pretending that biologically male features don't endow athletic benefits and competition in a woman's category is not fair.
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Whos paying the most attention to LGBT people?

Capitalists. Money doesn't have a sexual preference
Maroon Dawn
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TXAGFAN said:

Kvetch said:

TXAGFAN said:

Maroon Dawn said:

TXAGFAN said:

aggiephoenix02 said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Yeah, such a terrible thing to want to help someone love and accept who they are. Awful, right? You can keep on with disfigurement and hormones. It's working great, as evidenced by the suicide rates
Hey, bro! Are you a statistician!?!!

See, you now have to be an expert in a field to be able to speak on a subject. Well, not only be an expert, but also have the correct opinion and outlook. Clown world…
If you want to disagree with the prevailing point of view of the experts in that field, yes.


What are the prevailing statistics on suicides in this group after transition
What study are you and a few others here cherry picking on this subject? There's plenty of studies that demonstrate gender affirming treatment reduces risk of suicide. Also, I notice whenever this comes up you all jump even further to the "it's mental illness and should be discouraged" which there are also studies indicating that increases suicide risk.

I'm guessing this one made the rounds on social conservative Twitter as some sort of justification so I'm curious.


You know, there's lies, damn lies, and statistics. If all you look at is suicide rate amongst treatment groups, you'll see a SLIGHT decrease in suicide rate. However, the treated group still has a suicide rate multiple times higher than the general population (because physical surgeries don't solve mental illness).

Now, consider the historical rate of desistance, the proliferating phenomenon of groups becoming "trans" (primarily teen girls), and the fact that affirmation effectively eliminated any possibility of dysphoria resolution. Not to mention the fact that the "experts" that you like to cite are on record suppressing contrary research (see Brown study).

On top of this, consider the fact that this treatment is morally insane and born out of the perverted work of John Money. No rational human being can come to the conclusion that affirmation of mental disease is an acceptable course of treatment. The junk you shill for because of your political ambitions is evil and disgusting, and you try to back it up with cherry picked statistics and political entities.
So all those words and no study? Got it.

I'm not cherry picking anything, my stats I reference above are researched and studied multiple times. They form the basis of the mainstream treatment approach for a reason.


The basic definition off mental illness is a mind that cannot or will not accept reality and this inability to do so negatively affects that persons life.

Refusing to accept the biological reality of your bodies's sex to the point that it makes you angry, sad or even suicidal means it's by definition a mental illness

The "treatment" you and your ilk propose is either permanent, body alteration or demanding the rest of society be required to engage in their delusion

Do you get how insane that is?

That's like saying the solution for anorexia is letting them get liposuction or the solution for schizophrenia is to force the rest of society to say that we hear the voices too and that they're 100% real

But the treatment you WONT let them have is counseling and psychotherapy to learn to accept reality as it is and control the negative emotions they have from it
BigRobSA
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WTF is "gender affirmation therapy"!?

Sounds like made-up, psychobabble bull*****

Want to affirm what gender you are? Look down.

I find it odd that being gay is a trait, from birth, which has been proven scientifically but we are supposed to overlook birth trait of gender due to "feelings".
"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
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Feel badly for conservative women trying to compete but I agree with you it's karma for the women who put libtards in office. Will be interesting when a 7' mens Div 2 benchwarmer transitions and takes "her" team to final four
 
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