Putin probably has an armored column and six decoy vehicles and dozens of polizei with him every time he re-locates
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KYIV (Reuters) -Ukraine said on Friday it had struck a Russian oil refinery and a microchip factory in a huge drone attack that caused fires at the refinery's production facilities and an oil pumping station.
Russia said hours earlier that its forces had repelled an overnight drone attack, but four industry sources confirmed to Reuters that one of Russia's oldest refineries had been struck in the city of Ryazan southeast of Moscow overnight.
Yep, it was just step one in Putin's ultra-secret plan to expand NATO, gut his army, cripple the Russian economy and make the Kremlin an international pariah.GAC06 said:
It was a feint
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Ukraine replaces commander of eastern front after Russia captures another town
By Olena Harmash January 27, 20255:37 AM CSTUpdated 8 hours ago
Summary
- Zelenskiy says replacing commander will strengthen front
- Ukraine confirms withdrawal from eastern town
- Logistic hub of Pokrovsk remains focus of heavy fighting
KYIV, Jan 27 (Reuters) - Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy replaced the commander of the eastern front, the most heated battlefield of the Ukraine war, after Russian forces captured another strategic town there.
Brigadier-General Andriy Hnatov was replaced as the battlefield commander in the east by Major General Mykhailo Drapatyi, overall commander of ground forces, who will keep his previous duties. Hnatov was given a role overseeing training and communications.
In his nightly video address late on Sunday, Zelenskiy said the aim was to strengthen the command of troops in the Donetsk region. Donetsk, a battlefield since 2014 and one of four provinces Russia claims to have annexed since its 2022 full-scale invasion, has been the main focus of fighting for more than a year.
The Ukrainian military confirmed on Monday that it had withdrawn from the Donetsk region town of Velyka Novosilka, a day after Russia said it had captured it. Viktor Trehubov, a military spokesperson for Ukraine's eastern front, confirmed that Russian troops had entered the town but said fighting continued on the outskirts.
Russian forces have been slowly but steadily advancing in eastern Ukraine for more than a year in relentless ground combat that has caused massive military losses on both sides. Kyiv, for its part, has managed to capture and hold a pocket of territory inside Russia over the past six months.
The new eastern commander, Drapatyi, 42, is well respected in the army, where he is credited with stopping a Russian offensive in the northeastern Kharkiv region last year......
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"Israel has started supplying Ukraine with Soviet and Russian-made weapons captured in Lebanon." - The Telegraph.
— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated) January 27, 2025
About 60% of the weapons captured by Israel during the fight against Hezbollah were made in the USSR and Russia.
Additionally, as previously reported by an OSINT… pic.twitter.com/IqSi5lPrzO
DPRK military temporarily retreats from Russia's Kursk region due to heavy losses – Sky News. There was no official confirmation.
— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) January 27, 2025
North Korean troops appear to have temporarily pulled back from the frontline in Russia after suffering heavy losses.
Interviews with several… https://t.co/aSGwMsUYej pic.twitter.com/SOzjVg4kYN
my favorite is the Chinese golf cartsJFABNRGR said:
don't forget the motorbike assaults.
That's like asking why wear a ballistic vest if it can't stop every bullet or fragment. Armor protection still has considerable value against artillery, ATGW, gunfire, drones and other battlefield hazards. Having it greatly increases the likelihood of survival and that matters to those who value the lives of their soldiers.Who?mikejones! said:
Does it really matter anymore with fbv droves? The cost to benefit ratio has had to have shrunk with what russia could produce vs what alleged benefits would exist.
All war is a waste of money from a strictly business perspective. Russia's inability to more effectively bring its vast manpower advantage to bear because so many of its soldiers die before they can move to contact may yet prevent it from conquering Ukraine. If that occurs, its inability to provide sufficient armor to alter the rate of attrition will have been a fatally false economy.Who?mikejones! said:
I understand that. The point is that russia has lost thousands and thousands of vehicles to drones and other anti armor weapons.
So, the cost of producing military vehicles, both in time and money, and then sending them to mostly get blown up, changes the equation.
Its clear the same level of protection is not provided by a volga, but the cost is so much less and old cars are readily available. We already know Russia doesn't out much value on the soldier. So, it actually makes a little sense to just send them to the front in regular cars. They blow up just the same.
The Russians failed to take all of Ukraine. True. They were stuck in WW2/Afghanistan 1979 tactics.74OA said:All war is a waste of money from a strictly business perspective. Russia's inability to more effectively bring its vast manpower advantage to bear because so many of its soldiers die before they can move to contact may yet prevent it from conquering Ukraine. If that occurs, its inability to provide sufficient armor to alter the rate of attrition will have been a fatally false economy.Who?mikejones! said:
I understand that. The point is that russia has lost thousands and thousands of vehicles to drones and other anti armor weapons.
So, the cost of producing military vehicles, both in time and money, and then sending them to mostly get blown up, changes the equation.
Its clear the same level of protection is not provided by a volga, but the cost is so much less and old cars are readily available. We already know Russia doesn't out much value on the soldier. So, it actually makes a little sense to just send them to the front in regular cars. They blow up just the same.
TheEternalOptimist said:74OA said:All war is a waste of money from a strictly business perspective. Russia's inability to more effectively bring its vast manpower advantage to bear because so many of its soldiers die before they can move to contact may yet prevent it from conquering Ukraine. If that occurs, its inability to provide sufficient armor to alter the rate of attrition will have been a fatally false economy.Who?mikejones! said:
I understand that. The point is that russia has lost thousands and thousands of vehicles to drones and other anti armor weapons.
So, the cost of producing military vehicles, both in time and money, and then sending them to mostly get blown up, changes the equation.
Its clear the same level of protection is not provided by a volga, but the cost is so much less and old cars are readily available. We already know Russia doesn't out much value on the soldier. So, it actually makes a little sense to just send them to the front in regular cars. They blow up just the same.
It cost them dearly in terms of human lives and equipment - but they are generally close to achieving their goal.
......and turn Ukraine into a vassal state subservient to Moscow and force it away from the EU and NATO. Putin failed miserably in achieving his strategic objective regardless of how much of eastern Ukraine he steals.PJYoung said:TheEternalOptimist said:74OA said:All war is a waste of money from a strictly business perspective. Russia's inability to more effectively bring its vast manpower advantage to bear because so many of its soldiers die before they can move to contact may yet prevent it from conquering Ukraine. If that occurs, its inability to provide sufficient armor to alter the rate of attrition will have been a fatally false economy.Who?mikejones! said:
I understand that. The point is that russia has lost thousands and thousands of vehicles to drones and other anti armor weapons.
So, the cost of producing military vehicles, both in time and money, and then sending them to mostly get blown up, changes the equation.
Its clear the same level of protection is not provided by a volga, but the cost is so much less and old cars are readily available. We already know Russia doesn't out much value on the soldier. So, it actually makes a little sense to just send them to the front in regular cars. They blow up just the same.
It cost them dearly in terms of human lives and equipment - but they are generally close to achieving their goal.
Their goal was to take Kyiv in 3 days.
3/ These demands include forcing Ukraine to become a permanently neutral state that will never join NATO, imposing severe limitations on the size of the Ukrainian military, and removing the Ukrainian government.
— Institute for the Study of War (@TheStudyofWar) December 30, 2024
Latest on Ukraine: https://t.co/ONYEFID1hS pic.twitter.com/Vwq67JvFTf
UPDATE74OA said:
Here's an update on the possible Israeli transfer of recently captured Russian weapons and munitions to Ukraine. It's a nice gesture, but trivial in comparison to the boost Ukraine would get if Israel also donated the eight old Patriot SAM batteries it just put into long term storage.
"The potential transfer of these arms to Ukraine would mark a notable shift in Israel's role in the ongoing conflict, as it has previously refrained from directly supplying lethal aid. Instead, Israel has primarily limited its support to humanitarian assistance and non-lethal military aid."
ARMS
https://liveuamap.com/en/2025/30-january-20-violent-explosions-were-reported-in-pokrovskQuote:
Violent explosions were reported in Pokrovsk