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nortex97 said:

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The intent of escalation to direct involvement of Nato countries is irrefutable from "Kiev."

There's really…no other plausible explanation for the recent strikes on nuclear strike detection systems in Russia, that I am aware of.

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The explanation is that they were attacked by Russia and are retaliating. Not some grand multilevel nato conspiracy, no matter how much Russia tries to convince people it is.

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Russia is presenting a plethora of military targets in/near the theater, but Ukraine this week has decided to target nuclear strike detection systems hundreds/thousand+ of miles from the front (geared to detecting strikes from the Middle East).

Again, I get that many are skeptical but this is a significant change/shift. It's fair to be concerned, imho.

txags92 said:

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nortex97 said:

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The intent of escalation to direct involvement of Nato countries is irrefutable from "Kiev."

There's really…no other plausible explanation for the recent strikes on nuclear strike detection systems in Russia, that I am aware of.

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What are you talking about? Those radars do more than just detect incoming nukes. They see ballistic missiles and aircraft of all kinds and are likely being used in place of the Mainstays to detect incoming attacks from Ukraine on refineries and other critical facilities. With F16s coming soon, Ukraine wants to reduce the Russian ability to see attacks coming.

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Over-the-horizon radars have basically…zero ability to help detect/target drones etc. There's no evidence they are even employing Mainstays (which were wholly ineffective) at this point. F-16's won't play any impact in offensive operations this year or next.

Am I mistaken or did they lose 2 in about a 2 week period?

They were in use until they started getting shot down. And ukraine is using more than just drones. They have a limited number of ballistic missiles and lots of things like Scalps and Atacms that the over the horizon can probably detect and let the Russians know when to activate other air defenses or EW systems. Not having that warning forces Russians to risk turning the systems on more often and making them susceptible to more frequent attack or to not turn them on in time and miss opportunities to stop attacks.

From an AFU Lt:

https://t.me/officer_alex33/2899

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Unfortunately, the enemy is making progress in Beilohorivka, we lost several VOPs, and the troops advanced to the foot of the chalk quarry.

The situation is difficult.

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Not a moment of alarm yet, as Russia's made gains and then gotten swiftly blown out in Bilohorivka several times.

Yea it's called war

https://t.me/DeepStateUA/19563

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Today, the enemy showed significant activity in the Ocheretiny area

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Katsaps carried out assaults in the direction of Sokol and near Novooleksandrivka, with partial success. The attack north of Uman was repulsed.

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nortex97 said:

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txags92 said:

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nortex97 said:

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The intent of escalation to direct involvement of Nato countries is irrefutable from "Kiev."

There's really…no other plausible explanation for the recent strikes on nuclear strike detection systems in Russia, that I am aware of.

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What are you talking about? Those radars do more than just detect incoming nukes. They see ballistic missiles and aircraft of all kinds and are likely being used in place of the Mainstays to detect incoming attacks from Ukraine on refineries and other critical facilities. With F16s coming soon, Ukraine wants to reduce the Russian ability to see attacks coming.

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Over-the-horizon radars have basically…zero ability to help detect/target drones etc. There's no evidence they are even employing Mainstays (which were wholly ineffective) at this point. F-16's won't play any impact in offensive operations this year or next.

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They may have limited/ zero capability to see drones, but they can see aircraft, including first gen stealth aircraft. They not just a ballistic missile/ a space warning asset.

I believe this is also worth sharing here in relation to one of the other Pro-Russian sources.

And don’t get me wrong I don’t have any qualifications either, I don’t claim to be some super military analyst.

— ayden (@squatsons) August 29, 2023

Master Strategeries Putins 3-Day War continues its excellent successes.

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3 person killed, 4 wounded as result of missile strike at car wash in Snihurivka of Mykolaiv region

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https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/27-may-3-person-killed-4-wounded-as-result-of-missile-strike

Кількість загиблих у Снігурівці зросла до 3 людей, – Кім. https://t.co/kiSkDfc6pp pic.twitter.com/I2fLP1EVct

— M: аr:a (@kava0224) May 27, 2024

You show that car wash, Russia.

Coming back to the S400 hit and for those in the know!

Are the launchers connected to the control center and or radar wirelessly or wired or both?
It seems like these were set up awful close together is that standard SOP?
What about the operators of the system? how many how skilled and would there have been some deaths in this instance?

On the geolocation its been said this system was just moved in the day before. Think it was new off the production line or moved in from where? Whats a typical deployment to defend and cover a linear intrusion in KM apart?

Then the big question has there been any documented successful shootdowns by the S300/400 in Ukraine?

Seem like the houthis have been more successful on our drones and that said what are they using?

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Russian Ministry of Defense claims full occupation of Ivanivka village of Kharkiv region of Ukraine

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https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/27-may-russian-ministry-of-defense-claims-full-occupation-8239

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Russian Ministry of defense claims full occupation of Netailove village, west to Donetsk

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https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/27-may-russian-ministry-of-defense-claims-full-occupation

Both claims are corroborated by DeepStateMap.

🇷🇺🇺🇦 In the morning, the AFU once again used drones to attack facilities of Russia's fuel and energy complex in the rear.

One of the drones hit a Rosneft gas station in Livny in the Oryol region. While extinguishing a fire, another UAV attacked: the driver of one of the fire… pic.twitter.com/qRhtO5cSMB

— Rybar Force (@rybar_force) May 27, 2024

Ignore the commentary on this but Z makes some valid points in this video:

🪶Remember how the propagandists tried to wool our eyes with the claim that Russian artillery is so "inferior" to NATO's in Ukraine, and I exposed them by showing how Russian standard 152mm rounds fired from 2S19, 2A65, 2A36, etc., all have greater range than NATO's standard… pic.twitter.com/rCor1N03VT

— SIMPLICIUS Ѱ (@simpatico771) May 27, 2024

Again, practically, Ukraine needs to be targeting the Bears/Backfires before they launch more, given the substantial attacks on power/infrastructure these stand off platforms provide. Just my two cents. Plausibly, once they get up to a few dozen F-16's in service, this could happen.

nortex97 said:

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🇷🇺🇺🇦 In the morning, the AFU once again used drones to attack facilities of Russia's fuel and energy complex in the rear.

One of the drones hit a Rosneft gas station in Livny in the Oryol region. While extinguishing a fire, another UAV attacked: the driver of one of the fire… pic.twitter.com/qRhtO5cSMB

— Rybar Force (@rybar_force) May 27, 2024

Ignore the commentary on this but Z makes some valid points in this video:

🪶Remember how the propagandists tried to wool our eyes with the claim that Russian artillery is so "inferior" to NATO's in Ukraine, and I exposed them by showing how Russian standard 152mm rounds fired from 2S19, 2A65, 2A36, etc., all have greater range than NATO's standard… pic.twitter.com/rCor1N03VT

— SIMPLICIUS Ѱ (@simpatico771) May 27, 2024

Again, practically, Ukraine needs to be targeting the Bears/Backfires before they launch more, given the substantial attacks on power/infrastructure these stand off platforms provide. Just my two cents. Plausibly, once they get up to a few dozen F-16's in service, this could happen.

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Far better chance to hit them on the ground than in the air. F16s will have nothing to do with trying to go after them in the air based on where the orcs are launching from.

NYT: Russia Steps Up a Covert Sabotage Campaign Aimed at Europe

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U.S. and allied intelligence officials are tracking an increase in low-level sabotage operations in Europe that they say are part of a Russian campaign to undermine support for Ukraine's war effort.
The covert operations have mostly been arsons or attempted arsons targeting a wide range of sites, including a warehouse in England, a paint factory in Poland, homes in Latvia and, most oddly, an Ikea store in Lithuania.

But people accused of being Russian operatives have also been arrested on charges of plotting attacks on U.S. military bases.

While the acts might appear random, American and European security officials say they are part of a concerted effort by Russia to slow arms transfers to Kyiv and create the appearance of growing European opposition to support for Ukraine. And the officials say Russia's military intelligence arm, the G.R.U., is leading the campaign.

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Aljazeera:

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Russian forces had dropped about 3,200 guided aerial bombs on Ukraine this month and that Kyiv did not have enough air defence missiles to stop attacks on such a scale.

Russia's Ministry of Defence said its forces captured two villages Ivanivka in Ukraine's northeastern Kharkiv region and Netailove in eastern Donetsk. There was no comment from Ukraine on the claims.

Ukraine launched two attacks on the Russian-occupied city of Luhansk in its east, triggering a fire, according to Russian-appointed officials. Ukraine made no official comment on either incident. Ukrainian news outlets said the target of the second strike was an airfield.

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Luhansk strike appears to have been effective:

🚨ATACMS in the occupied part of Luhansk oblast, right now‼️#Ukraine #Crimea #NATO #Russia #Putin #UkraineWar #Epicenter #Kharkiv #Харків #Donetsk #France #Europe #LetUkraineStrikeBack #Zelensky #Macron #Rafah #Israel pic.twitter.com/v471I90Blu

— Filius Patriae🇫🇷🇺🇦🌿 (@PatriaeFilius) May 27, 2024

Russia had better figure out a way to reliably shoot down ATACMS quick or they are going to have major problems over the summer.

In desperate need of air defenses, Ukraine's Soviet-designed SA-11 Buk mobile air defense systems have been outfitted with US Sea Sparrows.

RIM-7

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Russia had better figure out a way to reliably shoot down ATACMS quick or they are going to have major problems over the summer.

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Instead they will just raze civilian infrastructure like apartments & supermarkets.

🇺🇸🇺🇦 "Done properly, it’s tedious, dirty and exhausting. But done properly, it wins wars." @AdrianBonenber1 breaks down why the mission is so critical here: https://t.co/TGpNlwAmGG#StandWithUkraine #AVU #SlavaUkraini 🇺🇸🇺🇦

— American Veterans for Ukraine (@AmVets4Ukraine) May 28, 2024

Hilarious.

Including Belgium's offer of 30 F-16s: "At the latest count, around 85 F-16s have now been committed to Ukraine. These comprise 24 from the Netherlands, 19 from Denmark, and 12 from Norway (with the same country providing 10 more that will be used for spare parts). Ukraine's first F-16 pilots have completed training in Arizona and it's possible the first Vipers could arrive in Ukraine as early as next month."

If the West can hold the line in the meantime, that will significantly modernize and eventually nearly double Ukrainian tactical airpower.

Today's SITREP.

Nato leaders refuse to offer timeline for Ukr. Membership: US and Germany.

Belgium's 10 year security agreement includes 30 F-16's 'by 2028.' (I assume still just 6 or 10 this summer/fall).

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Belgium joined a so-called 'F-16 coalition' with the Netherlands, Denmark and Norway last year. But the newly signed pact "for the first time... specifies the exact number of F-16 fighter jets 30 that will be delivered to Ukraine by 2028," he wrote.

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Toward the end of that video he details some of the recent strikes on the SW air base in Ukraine, presumably to be the home of the refurbed F-16's, but also where they've launched strikes using storm shadows etc.

Couldn't watch the first video all the way through. Which Berestove is "Weeb Union" talking about? Also, Bilohorivka is nowhere close to falling.

Ukraine has now targeted three long range radars in Russia over the last few days.

"Seeking to neutralize the Nebo-M in Luhansk would make good sense for a variety of practical reasons. This could include helping to clear the way for future stand-off strikes involving ATACMS and other munitions like stealthy Storm Shadow and SCALP-EG air-launched cruise missiles supplied by the United Kingdom and France. Destroying such a prized system would have propaganda benefits, as well."

RADARS

Did we confirm these long range radars can see ATACMS or similar cruise missles?

Teslag said:

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Did we confirm these long range radars can see ATACMS or similar cruise missles?

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ATACMS is ballistic. The reporting says the recently targeted strategic radars are for homeland defense and keyed towards detecting aircraft, ballistic missiles and cruise missiles at long range. The most recent targeted radar is also long range but has less capability vs ballistic missiles. See earlier links on these radars.