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Waffledynamics said:

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I wouldn't believe either side's numbers that they tell about themselves or each other right away.

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That may not be that far off. Ukraine's medical evacuations are far superior to Russia's so it wouldn't be surprising to see a 10:1 casualty ratio.

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That and Russia's methodology of warfare of just throwing bodies at bullets till the other side runs out of bullets...

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lb3 said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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I wouldn't believe either side's numbers that they tell about themselves or each other right away.

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That may not be that far off. Ukraine's medical evacuations are far superior to Russia's so it wouldn't be surprising to see a 10:1 casualty ratio.

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That and Russia's methodology of warfare of just throwing bodies at bullets till the other side runs out of bullets...

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I meant injured to KIA not Russian vs Ukrainian. Ukraine hasn't done near well enough to win a war of attrition. For that they would need the casualty ratio to be 6 or 7 to one vs Russia. I think they're likely no better than 3:1 or 4:1.

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lb3 said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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I wouldn't believe either side's numbers that they tell about themselves or each other right away.

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That may not be that far off. Ukraine's medical evacuations are far superior to Russia's so it wouldn't be surprising to see a 10:1 casualty ratio.

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That and Russia's methodology of warfare of just throwing bodies at bullets till the other side runs out of bullets...

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I meant injured to KIA not Russian vs Ukrainian. Ukraine hasn't done near well enough to win a war of attrition. For that they would need the casualty ratio to be 6 or 7 to one vs Russia. I think they're likely no better than 3:1 or 4:1.

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Ah...gotcha. And I could see your point in that.

BTW, very few countries can match Russia in a war of attrition. No one else has the stomach for that...

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I wouldn't believe either side's numbers that they tell about themselves or each other right away.

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And the Russians are now trying to convince everyone their latest intel plane loss was a cargo plane. And you'd be surprised who how many people believe it.

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Substantially less than everyone else's numbers

https://www.oann.com/newsroom/zelenskyy-claims-31000-ukrainian-soldiers-have-died-since-russias-full-scale-invasion/

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Not sure how that jives with a mobilization of 1/2 million.

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Ukraine has only mobilized 200 to 300 thousand to the front.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/02/21/europe/ukraine-tough-choices-mobilization-intl-cmd/index.html

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According to a Zelensky aide, of the almost 1 million Ukrainians mobilized, only 200,000 to 300,000 have served on the front line.

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Four myths about Ukraine that might sound right but are actually wrong.

MYTHS

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Hungary finally approves Sweden's accession to NATO. Good job, Vlad!

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That's big, actually. I'd love to know who twisted whose nipples for Orban to step over the line. Hungary either got something nifty or was at risk to bigly lose something.

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Hungary finally approves Sweden's accession to NATO. Good job, Vlad!

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That's big, actually. I'd love to know who twisted whose nipples for Orban to step over the line. Hungary either got something nifty or was at risk to bigly lose something.

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Well, all of Europe was leaning on him and Sweden agreed to sell him four more Gripen fighters as a last minute face-saver, so Orban essentially ended up paying Sweden to join NATO.

Big statement of resolve from @EmmanuelMacron tonight: France does not exclude sending troops to Ukraine. "I say to you very clearly: on this point FR will maintain its position - it is a strategic ambiguity and I'm fully behind it." https://t.co/2j0WKakEB8

— Ben Hall (@hallbenjamin) February 26, 2024

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Several Nato and EU members are considering sending soldiers to Ukraine on a bilateral basis, Slovak prime minister Robert Fico said on Monday. Fico, who has long opposed military supplies to Ukraine and has taken a position seen by some critics as pro-Russian, offered no details and other European leaders did not immediately comment on his remarks

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-ukraine-war-live-denmark-ends-nord-stream-blast-investigation-but-blames-deliberate-sabotage/ar-BB1iTkV6

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Big statement of resolve from @EmmanuelMacron tonight: France does not exclude sending troops to Ukraine. "I say to you very clearly: on this point FR will maintain its position - it is a strategic ambiguity and I'm fully behind it." https://t.co/2j0WKakEB8

— Ben Hall (@hallbenjamin) February 26, 2024

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Several Nato and EU members are considering sending soldiers to Ukraine on a bilateral basis, Slovak prime minister Robert Fico said on Monday. Fico, who has long opposed military supplies to Ukraine and has taken a position seen by some critics as pro-Russian, offered no details and other European leaders did not immediately comment on his remarks

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/russia-ukraine-war-live-denmark-ends-nord-stream-blast-investigation-but-blames-deliberate-sabotage/ar-BB1iTkV6

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More from the summit, including agreeing to source ammunition for Ukraine from outside the EU.

PARIS

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Big statement of resolve from @EmmanuelMacron tonight: France does not exclude sending troops to Ukraine. "I say to you very clearly: on this point FR will maintain its position - it is a strategic ambiguity and I'm fully behind it."

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How is 'France maintaining a strategic ambiguity' a big statement of resolve? Is that somehow a mistranslation?

Europe isn't hitting even a third of their revised 155mm provision promises;

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Speaking at a press conference in Kiev on Monday, Zelensky said that "out of the million shells that the European Union promised us, not 50% came, but 30%, unfortunately."

If Zelensky's figures are accurate, no shells have been delivered since November, when Bloomberg reported that 30% of the one million had been sent to Ukraine. The EU thus has only three days to hand over 220,000 shells in order to meet Borrell's revised target of 520,000.

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Strategically, I am glad Zelensky has decided to travel to a BRICS nation to discuss peace options/formulas;

🇺🇦🇸🇦 | Ukrainian President Zelensky arrived in Saudi Arabia.

"Topic number one - the Peace Formula. Last year in Jeddah, we held a fruitful meeting at the level of advisors regarding its implementation. Now we are very close to holding the first Peace Summit and we count on… pic.twitter.com/2Sd9oWLKab

— Status-6 (Military & Conflict News) (@Archer83Able) February 27, 2024

Russia's meatgrinder attempts are simply unsustainable and further shows Russia's complete inability to mount an offensive. Just insane at this point.

https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-losses-avdiivka-exceed-10-year-soviet-afghan-war-isw-2024-2

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More Russian soldiers are likely to have died seizing the Ukrainian town of Avdiivka than in the 10-year Soviet-Afghan war, the think tank the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) said.
Russian forces began their brutal campaign to seize the town in eastern Ukraine in October and finally succeeded earlier this month.
However, the victory came at a high cost Ukrainian military officials estimate that up to 47,000 Russians were killed or injured in the battle, along with scores of tanks and fighting vehicles.

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Zelensky is also there to discuss rebuilding investment in Urkaine once they stop Russia's unprovoked invasion and a prisoner swap. He is not there to capitulate to Russian interests.

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He will have to capitulate at some point. It's clear Ukraine isn't going to roll back the Russian gains.

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Minus two more Russian S34s today.

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Recent spike in losses is perhaps an indication that Russia has recommitted to persistent close support of the battlefield for the first time since the early months of the war?

LOSSES

GLSDB leaving a mark, accurately.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1b1gfo3/the_infantry_that_entered_the_building_was_hit_by/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

European Parliament approves the previously recommended Euro 50B economic assistance package for Ukraine.

EU

🇸🇦🇺🇦🇷🇺🚨‼️ BREAKING: Riyadh today received not only Zelensky, but also Abramovich’s plane landed.

Reminder Abramovich was involved in negotiations between Ukraine and Russia two years ago.

-> A new deal? https://t.co/nllnw2nlqD pic.twitter.com/nEUAFZ7CSG

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) February 27, 2024

I know, source, etc., but Abramovich has been key in some prisoner swap deals etc. as well. Here's to hoping.

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More from the summit, including agreeing to source ammunition for Ukraine from outside the EU.

PARIS

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Thanks for sharing. The uncertaintly of US policy is having a profound affect on Europe. Refreshing to see Europe gradually waking up.

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Indeed. Granted it is slower than anticipated but that's just the way of democracies. More than anything, it signifies a toughening of their mindset. Finland is opening approx 300 new gun ranges in a country about the size of the New England coast and about 5% of the population, for example. The direct aim is to encourage their populace to develop skills and comfort with weapons. Could yall imagine that happening here? Of course the Fins have a rather, let's say heated, history with Russia.

Aid is increasing across the EU. US just squeaks into the top 20 now I think for aid with regard to GDP. It may have taken a lot longer than I was happy with but it's happening now nonetheless. It's just timing now. We are first world democratic nations. You can't just finger snap huge modern arms factories into existence overnight, unfortunately and fortunately.

Our own loggerhead may have ended up being a not completely terrible thing in the long run perhaps. It lit a fire in at least a few EU people...especially if things get a little more squirrelly on the world stage. Some tomfoolery going on with Transnistria and Moldova currently. Always an area of at least a little discussion and worthy of keeping an eye on.

Report on LiveUaMap that Russia's MoD claims control over the village of Stepove, Northwest of Advdiivka. Deepstatemap agrees and shows movement west toward the village of Berdychi.

I'm wondering if Ukraine has fallen back from these villages to more prepared lines somewhere.

Probably. That area west of Adviika is not advantageous for defense due to elevation and geography.

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Report on LiveUaMap that Russia's MoD claims control over the village of Stepove, Northwest of Advdiivka. Deepstatemap agrees and shows movement west toward the village of Berdychi.

I'm wondering if Ukraine has fallen back from these villages to more prepared lines somewhere.

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Have you seen any reporting they have prepared defensive lines to the west?

I unfortunately haven't had the time in the last week or so to check into that like I'd normally like to. DeepStateMap doesn't like to show AFU fortifications, and I don't know how reliable they are for that info anyway.

Topography seems to show that those two villages are in lower lands, though. They may have defenses just West.

I don't remember the exact specifics, but I read a detailed post that the Ukes have a fortified line west of the fighting already prepared and had fallen back mostly to it and another impromptu stalling line between it and the fighting. There aren't really much Uke troops, if any in the areas Russia is "liberating" at the moment.

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Waffledynamics said:

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Report on LiveUaMap that Russia's MoD claims control over the village of Stepove, Northwest of Advdiivka. Deepstatemap agrees and shows movement west toward the village of Berdychi.

I'm wondering if Ukraine has fallen back from these villages to more prepared lines somewhere.

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Have you seen any reporting they have prepared defensive lines to the west?

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Reporting From Ukraine has gone into this on several of his recent videos and those prepared lines are shown in the first minute of his last video at

France now says any troops sent to Ukraine would be in non-combat roles.

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France now says any troops sent to Ukraine would be in non-combat roles.

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I was hopeful they would send the Foreign Legion.

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I don't remember the exact specifics, but I read a detailed post that the Ukes have a fortified line west of the fighting already prepared and had fallen back mostly to it and another impromptu stalling line between it and the fighting. There aren't really much Uke troops, if any in the areas Russia is "liberating" at the moment.

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